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Poll: Bloodsteel and Nethersteel (42 member(s) have cast votes)

Your thoughts?

  1. I like Nethersteel, but not Bloodsteel (2 votes [4.76%])

    Percentage of vote: 4.76%

  2. I like Bloodsteel, but not Nethersteel (3 votes [7.14%])

    Percentage of vote: 7.14%

  3. I like both (12 votes [28.57%])

    Percentage of vote: 28.57%

  4. I don't like either (2 votes [4.76%])

    Percentage of vote: 4.76%

  5. I like the enchantments (1 votes [2.38%])

    Percentage of vote: 2.38%

  6. I don't like the enchantments (1 votes [2.38%])

    Percentage of vote: 2.38%

  7. I like it all (16 votes [38.10%])

    Percentage of vote: 38.10%

  8. I don't like it at all (5 votes [11.90%])

    Percentage of vote: 11.90%

What would you do to it?

  1. Change Bloodsteel (7 votes [10.94%])

    Percentage of vote: 10.94%

  2. Change Nethersteel (9 votes [14.06%])

    Percentage of vote: 14.06%

  3. Change enchantments (9 votes [14.06%])

    Percentage of vote: 14.06%

  4. Change crafting (7 votes [10.94%])

    Percentage of vote: 10.94%

  5. Change method obtained (12 votes [18.75%])

    Percentage of vote: 18.75%

  6. Change nothing, I like this idea as is (20 votes [31.25%])

    Percentage of vote: 31.25%

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#1

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Posted 15 October 2011 - 04:19 AM

Netherrack. It's all over the Nether, no scratch that, IT IS THE NETHER.
But for how common it is, it's totally useless. Oh sure, you can light it on fire, and make red things from it, but that's it.

1) Obviously make Nether Brick, using the same method as normal brick. Smelt it into Nether slabs at a 1:1 ratio, make Nether Bricks.

1a) Nether Brick Stairs, Nether Brick Fences, Nether Brick Furnace (Credit: scynscatha), Nether Brick Slab (Make red statues so much easier. No seriously.)

2) Here's the new thing: Bloodsteel! You're dying to know how to make it, so here's the run-down

2a) Smelt a block of Netherrack to create a Nether Slab
2a) Arrange 8 Nether Slabs in a circle, with a Blaze Powder in the center, to create Nether Essence, which is purified Netherrack

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2b) Smelt the Nether Essence into Nethersteel, the first metal form of Netherrack.
2b) If you wish to continue on and create Bloodsteel, arrange 8 Nethersteel on a crafting table in the same circle, but use a Ghast Tear in the center. This will create Blood Essence, which is an even more pure form of Netherrack.

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2c) Craft 4 Blood Essence into a square, and create a Blood Ingot, which is a solidified form of Blood Essence, and is essentially the almighty Bloodsteel!:

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Tools made with Bloodsteel and Nethersteel are created the same as normal tools, but use Blaze Rods instead of sticks, because sticks would obviously be incinerated by the fiery powers of the Nether.

A simple version of the above steps would be this:

Netherrack to Nethersteel ratio -> 8:1 + 1 Blaze Powder
Netherrack to Bloodsteel ratio -> 256:1 + 8 Blaze Powder and 1 Ghast Tear

You may be wondering; why the long process? Well, if you notice, the Netherrack block is riddled with impurities, with trace amounts of a substance that is tough enough to be crafted (The bright red parts). Breaking down a fire-resistant material in a furnace is also going to take some time.

---------------------------Properties of Nethersteel and Bloodsteel--------------------------

Nethersteel is a purified form of Netherrack, tough enough to last a decent while, but not so good in the long run. Nethersteel armor provides 25% resistance to fire, and is equal to Iron. Will not burn in fire, but it will burn in lava.

Attack/Gathering Speed: Equal to Iron
Durability: Iron
Mining Capabilities (What can it mine?): Equal to Iron
Enchantments: Normal

Bloodsteel is the embodiment of the Nether. Light, durable, and possessing incredible tolerance to magic, it's best for nearly everything. Bloodstone armor provides total immunity to fire, but the immunity decreases as the durability decreases. Dropped form cannot be destroyed (Except by Void), but can be despawned.

Attack: Equal to Iron, will light mobs on fire
Gathering Speed: Equal to gold (Gold applicable only, otherwise Iron)
Durability: Higher than iron, less than Diamond
Mining Capabilities: Equal to Diamond
Enchantments: Special Enchant

Not what you were expecting, right? Well, read on, because Bloodstone has a very special attribute unlike any other.

------------------------------------Bloodstone Enchantments-----------------------------------

Yup, that's right. Bloodstone gets its very own enchantment; Netherflame. It is a level 50 enchant, so nothing to dismiss as small. Enchanted Bloodstone gets a reddish gleam that gives off light half that of a torch.

Netherflame Tool Enchant:

Attack: Equal to diamond, will light mobs on fire
*Nether exclusive: Right clicking will launch a Ghast Fireball, with the same speed and damage, but no explosive properties

Gathering Speed: Equal to Diamond + Gold (AKA fastest in the game)
Mining Capabilities: Diamond

Effect: The concentration of the Nether's power and evil attracts mobs to you, as long as you're wielding it

Netherflame Armor Enchant

Resistance: A single enchanted piece of armor provides total immunity to everything fire-related that does not decrease with durability.
*Nether Exclusive: Will deflect any ranged attacks at close range (3 blocks far)
Durability: Diamond
Effect: The armor is constantly on fire (Will not obstruct your view, unlike normal fire), providing a light level of 12 around you, and it'll set mobs on fire upon contact. If you touch water, the fire is extinguished until you leave the water.

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Enchanted Bloodsteel Blade:
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Enchanted Bloodsteel Pick
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Nethersteel Sword
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Posted 15 October 2011 - 04:21 AM

At first i said it was overpowered, then I remember you mentioned you have to smelt (in total) like 60 netherrack or so for 1 ingot? So i guess it would be worth it. You should also be able to incrust it with gold nuggets for added power

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Posted 15 October 2011 - 04:29 AM

View PostWulf_Oman, on 15 October 2011 - 04:21 AM, said:

At first i said it was overpowered, then I remember you mentioned you have to smelt (in total) like 60 netherrack or so for 1 ingot? So i guess it would be worth it. You should also be able to incrust it with gold nuggets for added power

All the overpowered stuff requires enchantments, and even then it's just nifty quirks in the overworld, slight edge in the Nether.

EDIT: I started to remember how much Netherrack is in the Nether, so I increased the costs for one Bloodsteel
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Posted 15 October 2011 - 04:42 AM

Sounds cool! Maybe a little less smelting? I mean that is a ton! Maybe like half the smelting and it would be realistic.
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Posted 15 October 2011 - 04:49 AM

View PostNick Valdez, on 15 October 2011 - 04:42 AM, said:

Sounds cool! Maybe a little less smelting? I mean that is a ton! Maybe like half the smelting and it would be realistic.

This is Netherrack we're talking about.

EDIT: Just realized enchanted Bloodsteel outclasses diamond in every aspect, so I added a con.
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Posted 15 October 2011 - 04:54 AM

I love this idea even if its just because now i can think of the nether as a giant block of ore instead of a giant block of flammable blood-encrusted rock.
Someone say something good, then i'll sig it.

View Postvoloder3, on 07 October 2011 - 11:24 PM, said:

Something good

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Posted 15 October 2011 - 04:55 AM

View Postzollie20, on 15 October 2011 - 04:54 AM, said:

I love this idea even if its just because now i can think of the nether as a giant block of ore instead of a giant block of flammable blood-encrusted rock.

It provides a way for people who are patient and like to work hard to have a chance and getting "end-game" equipment, instead of digging down and hoping to strike it rich.

EDIT: Now with pictures!
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Posted 15 October 2011 - 05:01 AM

View PostDracius, on 15 October 2011 - 04:55 AM, said:

It provides a way for people who are patient and like to work hard to have a chance and getting "end-game" equipment, instead of digging down and hoping to strike it rich.
It would also be pretty sweet on SMP if you had a small army of like 10 people with, say, stone\iron swords versus one guy in this nether armour and you just get owned because he has ghast fireballs and amazing protection :iapprove:
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View Postvoloder3, on 07 October 2011 - 11:24 PM, said:

Something good

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Posted 15 October 2011 - 05:12 AM

View Postzollie20, on 15 October 2011 - 05:01 AM, said:

It would also be pretty sweet on SMP if you had a small army of like 10 people with, say, stone\iron swords versus one guy in this nether armour and you just get owned because he has ghast fireballs and amazing protection :iapprove:

It'd be terribly broken if he was in the Nether, but in the overworld, he's just a fancy guy clad in red diamond.
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Posted 15 October 2011 - 05:19 AM

With the current smelting system you have a 1:1 ratio. You smelt 1 and you get 1. Maybe if you smelt into ingots and craft the ingots into 1 block and smelt that block.(How I think Steel should be made:P)
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Posted 15 October 2011 - 05:21 AM

View PostDarkmagic101, on 15 October 2011 - 05:19 AM, said:

With the current smelting system you have a 1:1 ratio. You smelt 1 and you get 1. Maybe if you smelt into ingots and craft the ingots into 1 block and smelt that block.(How I think Steel should be made:P)

Good point, lemme fix that.
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Posted 15 October 2011 - 12:19 PM

I like it.
If you had a banner, i'd support.

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Posted 15 October 2011 - 02:41 PM

I would like this, notch, add this to the game!


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Posted 15 October 2011 - 05:12 PM

Thanks for the support.
Maybe I will make a banner, I need something in my siggy anyway.
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Posted 15 October 2011 - 09:23 PM

This is an awesome suggestion. I hope Notch adds it.

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Posted 15 October 2011 - 09:30 PM

Tidied up the post, added more images.

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Posted 15 October 2011 - 10:37 PM

Nice idea! I support this. You balanced the requirements and rewards well!

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Posted 15 October 2011 - 11:11 PM

View PostVroqren, on 15 October 2011 - 10:37 PM, said:

Nice idea! I support this. You balanced the requirements and rewards well!

Thanks, I wanted Bloodsteel to be hard, but not hair-rippingly mad.
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Posted 16 October 2011 - 12:52 AM

Nice, a balanced, good tool material suggestion, maybe it could also have a use apart from tools, like an Dark enchanting table, that does evil enchantments, it has more effective enchantments than the average magic table, but has negative points too, or a super furnace that permanently makes item really hot, so when something touches it gets hurt, but it also makes the block have a slight tinge of red, and it could also make coal better, and it adds more smelts to 1 smelting item (more uses for 1 piece of coal, wood, lava bucket, etc) Piggles says yes to bloodsteel! :Pig:
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Posted 16 October 2011 - 01:11 AM

I find this idea an unnecessarily complicated waste of resources.
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