Just for a baseline WRT Amidst running on a system with no errors, here's my system configuration.
2.8Ghz AMD Quad processor running Windows 7 with latest updates with 8 gig of memory.
Minecraft memory is set up with these JVM arguments "-Xmx4G -Xms3G".
And I run unmodded copies of MineCraft.
And since I'm an adult on my own computer that no one else uses, I'm logged in as an administrator with full privileges.
Java Installed:
Java 7 Update 25 (64-bit)
Java 7 Update 40
Java SE Development Kit 7 Update ( 64-bit)
Java(TM) 7 (64-bit)
(I don't know if the above helps but it's like chicken soup. It can't hurt.)
I have yet to have a version of Amidst not run properly except (I think) one time when Skidoodle had an accidental bug that he fixed in less than an hour.
Currently I'm running MC snapshot 13w41b and telling Amidst to use that profile and they are happy as clams. No problems that I can ascertain.
If you are having a problem please don't just complain. Tell us what type of computer/processor you are using, the operating system you're running, how much memory, if you have any mods loaded into Minecraft, and anything else you think might help to pinpoint the problem.
Amidst uses a lot of the Java code that is resident in the Minecraft executable file(s). I don't know for a fact that mods do or don't have an effect of the execution of Amidst. I keep that variable out of the equation out of habit. i.e. If you don't want software to shoot you in the foot don't give it any bullets, don't poke it with a stick, and definitely don't make your computer angry.
Otherwise all you are going to get for a response is what the guy got when he said, raising his arm over his head, "Doctor, it hurts when I do this." and the doctor said, "Well, don't do that."
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There are no dangerous weapons. There are only dangerous people. R.A. Heinlein
If you aren't part of the solution, then you obviously weren't properly dissolved.
love this app! incredibly useful, and has helped me find everything i've needed. however, there is one thing i would like to see added in. it would be great if you added in a tool that would let you mark things on the map yourself. such as bases/homes, mob farms, and whatever else someone chooses to place on the map.
love this app! incredibly useful, and has helped me find everything i've needed. however, there is one thing i would like to see added in. it would be great if you added in a tool that would let you mark things on the map yourself. such as bases/homes, mob farms, and whatever else someone chooses to place on the map.
Amidst is and is meant to be a mapper of what is most probable in a world created with a given or randomly picked seed.
Amidst DOES NOT create any chunks or read them from an already created world so it has no information on anything constructed or placed by anyone.
The only piece of information that is shown WRT the actual world is the player location(s) if you load a world from disk.
Eventually actual spawn location will be shown also instead of PROBABLE spawn location.
Please note: I am NOT, as yet, involved with the actual coding of the program. I'm just answering those questions that I feel qualified to answer. Skidoodle has posted that, do to either real paying work or personal events he won't be working on the latest version or posting here for a while.
The last Apple computer I worked with was an Apple ][+ so I'm totally unqualified to answer Mac questions.
This is also the case for Linux based systems.
If you want a map of an actual world as created and modified by players I suggest something like Minutor v1.6.3 which works quite well at mapping all chunks that have been actually created in the world it is mapping. Also you can use it to look for mines, strongholds, dungeons, ore deposts, etc.
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There are no dangerous weapons. There are only dangerous people. R.A. Heinlein
If you aren't part of the solution, then you obviously weren't properly dissolved.
i'm sorry, i didn't mean i wanted it to render in stuff i've built. what i was suggesting was something that would let you place your own little icon indicator things. heres an example of what i was thinking: say you have a home/base at -317, 2748 on the world, it would be nice to keep track of things like that if you could place in a little icon like the player icons or something. the map generation is fine how it is, and i don't really care about it rendering in stuff thats been built. it'd just be a nice way to keep track of bases and such if you could place an indicator icon on a coordinate you'd like to keep marked for later. it's just a suggestion, and i can understand if this doesn't want to be supported. i'll still continue to use this app either way, it's the best out there in my opinion.
The easiest thing to do would be to expand Amidst to full screen, zoom in or out to your desired level of detail and do a Ctrl-T.
Then use a graphics program to edit the resulting .png file.
I use PaintShopPro but MSPaint works just as well for this.
There are no dangerous weapons. There are only dangerous people. R.A. Heinlein
If you aren't part of the solution, then you obviously weren't properly dissolved.
I have a confession.
Earlier in this topic I posted that I was having a problem with MC not deleting save world folders after deleting the worlds.
Thus leaving empty folders inside the saves folder under .minecraft.
And this was causing Amidst to hiccup when I asked it to load a seed from that folder.
It turns out that I was shooting myself in the foot.
I tend to run Amidst, Minecraft, and Minutor1.6.3 all at the same time to search for interesting looking seeds, create the world in MC, and if they look promising I then point Minutor at the level.dat file and have it give me a 3D view of the area that I've explored.
Many times I won't find anything of real interest so I will quit the world in MC and immediately delete the world.
(I have, as of this minute, 424 worlds saved on my hard drive. I don't need to keep all the uninteresting ones too.)
Well, I just realized that Minutor doesn't just read the save data, it keeps the folder open, so if I don't shut it down or point it at a different world when MC deletes the world it deletes everything EXCEPT the world folder itself AND DOESN'T announce an error!
Then when I go back later and try to load a seed from that folder with Amidst it get very unhappy.
So, here I am, admitting that my problem wasn't/isn't one with Amidst but with the loose nut in front of the keyboard.
Something I just learned. If you are running Windows Explorer right click on your .minecraft/saves/ folder and then click properties to get explorer to update its view of the directory tree. Then all (or most) of the folders shown in the saves folder will have a right pointing arrowhead by them showing that they contain sub-folders. Left click on any that don't have that arrowhead and you should get a message that the folder is empty. If that's the case you can hit delete and then answer yes to delete that folder.
Doing that just reduced my number of indicated MC worlds down from 424 to 419.
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There are no dangerous weapons. There are only dangerous people. R.A. Heinlein
If you aren't part of the solution, then you obviously weren't properly dissolved.
How can you set amidst to search for the game in another directory?
We/I need more information.
What kind of machine? PC or Mac?
What operating system?
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There are no dangerous weapons. There are only dangerous people. R.A. Heinlein
If you aren't part of the solution, then you obviously weren't properly dissolved.
The rule of thumb I use is that village predictions on an Amidst map have about a 90% chance of actually existing.
The first pass at world generation (which is what Amidst uses) accurately places the three strongholds and since they are underground and not really sensitive to surface features will always be where Amidst says they are.
Other items, villages, witch huts, and temples have about a 10% chance of not being in an allowable location so they are not built after the world generator finalizes the surface features.
If you go to the exact coordinate that Amidst indicates should have an item and it's not there, chances are real good it's because the location is in a river, right on a biome edge, or on a very steep mountain slope.
I've seen some maps where all structures I checked actually existed and I've had other maps where 3 out of 4 villages and temples I looked for weren't there.
It's the nature of the beast.
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There are no dangerous weapons. There are only dangerous people. R.A. Heinlein
If you aren't part of the solution, then you obviously weren't properly dissolved.
NOTE: DO NOT try this if you aren't familiar with the dangers of editing the Windows registry!
Start Regedit.exe (If you don't know how to do this DO NOT try this. You can screw up your machine beyond belief.)
Do a Ctrl-F for "find" and enter "Amidst".
You will get A LOT of hits for Amidst.exe and any previous versions you've downloaded.
What you are looking for is an entry under Software/Javasoft/Prefs/Amidst
In that entry is a key labeled "jar".
On my machine this entry value is "/C:///Users///Alan///App/Data///Roaming//.minecraft//bin//minecraft.jar".
There is another key labeled "/Mo/F./Finder/Window" with the same path & file information but I have no idea what it is.
NOTE: I don't know what the multiple slashes mean.
Copy this to a text file somewhere just in case you need to change it back and then change it to point to where your .jar file is.
Now, a little story. I DO NOT have a minecraft.jar file in C:\Users\Alan\AppData\Roaming\.minecraft\bin!!!
I emailed Skidoodle and asked him about this and he said that if Amidst doesn't find minecraft.jar there it does a search looking in the versions folder and subfolders.
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There are no dangerous weapons. There are only dangerous people. R.A. Heinlein
If you aren't part of the solution, then you obviously weren't properly dissolved.
I can't seem to run Amidst with any profile other than 1341b. At the Temporary profile selector it only runs on profiles that have the 13w41b snapshot in them, when I try to use others it won't load.
Doesn't seem to be working for me... downloaded fine, but does not generate any map whether I type a seed, select one or generate randomly, it just leaves me looking at a blank screen? I'm using windows 7, any suggestions as to what I'm doing wrong?
2.8Ghz AMD Quad processor running Windows 7 with latest updates with 8 gig of memory.
Minecraft memory is set up with these JVM arguments "-Xmx4G -Xms3G".
And I run unmodded copies of MineCraft.
And since I'm an adult on my own computer that no one else uses, I'm logged in as an administrator with full privileges.
Java Installed:
Java 7 Update 25 (64-bit)
Java 7 Update 40
Java SE Development Kit 7 Update ( 64-bit)
Java(TM) 7 (64-bit)
(I don't know if the above helps but it's like chicken soup. It can't hurt.)
I have yet to have a version of Amidst not run properly except (I think) one time when Skidoodle had an accidental bug that he fixed in less than an hour.
Currently I'm running MC snapshot 13w41b and telling Amidst to use that profile and they are happy as clams. No problems that I can ascertain.
If you are having a problem please don't just complain. Tell us what type of computer/processor you are using, the operating system you're running, how much memory, if you have any mods loaded into Minecraft, and anything else you think might help to pinpoint the problem.
Amidst uses a lot of the Java code that is resident in the Minecraft executable file(s). I don't know for a fact that mods do or don't have an effect of the execution of Amidst. I keep that variable out of the equation out of habit. i.e. If you don't want software to shoot you in the foot don't give it any bullets, don't poke it with a stick, and definitely don't make your computer angry.
Otherwise all you are going to get for a response is what the guy got when he said, raising his arm over his head, "Doctor, it hurts when I do this." and the doctor said, "Well, don't do that."
There are no dangerous weapons. There are only dangerous people. R.A. Heinlein
If you aren't part of the solution, then you obviously weren't properly dissolved.
The latest release of Amidst, version 4.6 can be found here:
https://github.com/toolbox4minecraft/amidst/releases
You should probably also read this:
https://www.minecraftforum.net/forums/mapping-and-modding-java-edition/minecraft-tools/2970854-amidst-map-explorer-for-minecraft-1-14
You can find me on the Minecraft Forums Discord server.
https://discord.gg/wGrQNKX
https://youtube.com/user/XepherTim
pls watch my videosI'd love if you could check out my channel.Amidst is and is meant to be a mapper of what is most probable in a world created with a given or randomly picked seed.
Amidst DOES NOT create any chunks or read them from an already created world so it has no information on anything constructed or placed by anyone.
The only piece of information that is shown WRT the actual world is the player location(s) if you load a world from disk.
Eventually actual spawn location will be shown also instead of PROBABLE spawn location.
Please note: I am NOT, as yet, involved with the actual coding of the program. I'm just answering those questions that I feel qualified to answer. Skidoodle has posted that, do to either real paying work or personal events he won't be working on the latest version or posting here for a while.
The last Apple computer I worked with was an Apple ][+ so I'm totally unqualified to answer Mac questions.
This is also the case for Linux based systems.
If you want a map of an actual world as created and modified by players I suggest something like Minutor v1.6.3 which works quite well at mapping all chunks that have been actually created in the world it is mapping. Also you can use it to look for mines, strongholds, dungeons, ore deposts, etc.
There are no dangerous weapons. There are only dangerous people. R.A. Heinlein
If you aren't part of the solution, then you obviously weren't properly dissolved.
The latest release of Amidst, version 4.6 can be found here:
https://github.com/toolbox4minecraft/amidst/releases
You should probably also read this:
https://www.minecraftforum.net/forums/mapping-and-modding-java-edition/minecraft-tools/2970854-amidst-map-explorer-for-minecraft-1-14
You can find me on the Minecraft Forums Discord server.
https://discord.gg/wGrQNKX
Then use a graphics program to edit the resulting .png file.
I use PaintShopPro but MSPaint works just as well for this.
There are no dangerous weapons. There are only dangerous people. R.A. Heinlein
If you aren't part of the solution, then you obviously weren't properly dissolved.
The latest release of Amidst, version 4.6 can be found here:
https://github.com/toolbox4minecraft/amidst/releases
You should probably also read this:
https://www.minecraftforum.net/forums/mapping-and-modding-java-edition/minecraft-tools/2970854-amidst-map-explorer-for-minecraft-1-14
You can find me on the Minecraft Forums Discord server.
https://discord.gg/wGrQNKX
Nevermind, I fixed it by putting it in the Applications folder.
https://youtube.com/user/XepherTim
pls watch my videosI'd love if you could check out my channel.Earlier in this topic I posted that I was having a problem with MC not deleting save world folders after deleting the worlds.
Thus leaving empty folders inside the saves folder under .minecraft.
And this was causing Amidst to hiccup when I asked it to load a seed from that folder.
It turns out that I was shooting myself in the foot.
I tend to run Amidst, Minecraft, and Minutor1.6.3 all at the same time to search for interesting looking seeds, create the world in MC, and if they look promising I then point Minutor at the level.dat file and have it give me a 3D view of the area that I've explored.
Many times I won't find anything of real interest so I will quit the world in MC and immediately delete the world.
(I have, as of this minute, 424 worlds saved on my hard drive. I don't need to keep all the uninteresting ones too.)
Well, I just realized that Minutor doesn't just read the save data, it keeps the folder open, so if I don't shut it down or point it at a different world when MC deletes the world it deletes everything EXCEPT the world folder itself AND DOESN'T announce an error!
Then when I go back later and try to load a seed from that folder with Amidst it get very unhappy.
So, here I am, admitting that my problem wasn't/isn't one with Amidst but with the loose nut in front of the keyboard.
Something I just learned. If you are running Windows Explorer right click on your .minecraft/saves/ folder and then click properties to get explorer to update its view of the directory tree. Then all (or most) of the folders shown in the saves folder will have a right pointing arrowhead by them showing that they contain sub-folders. Left click on any that don't have that arrowhead and you should get a message that the folder is empty. If that's the case you can hit delete and then answer yes to delete that folder.
Doing that just reduced my number of indicated MC worlds down from 424 to 419.
There are no dangerous weapons. There are only dangerous people. R.A. Heinlein
If you aren't part of the solution, then you obviously weren't properly dissolved.
The latest release of Amidst, version 4.6 can be found here:
https://github.com/toolbox4minecraft/amidst/releases
You should probably also read this:
https://www.minecraftforum.net/forums/mapping-and-modding-java-edition/minecraft-tools/2970854-amidst-map-explorer-for-minecraft-1-14
You can find me on the Minecraft Forums Discord server.
https://discord.gg/wGrQNKX
We/I need more information.
What kind of machine? PC or Mac?
What operating system?
There are no dangerous weapons. There are only dangerous people. R.A. Heinlein
If you aren't part of the solution, then you obviously weren't properly dissolved.
The latest release of Amidst, version 4.6 can be found here:
https://github.com/toolbox4minecraft/amidst/releases
You should probably also read this:
https://www.minecraftforum.net/forums/mapping-and-modding-java-edition/minecraft-tools/2970854-amidst-map-explorer-for-minecraft-1-14
You can find me on the Minecraft Forums Discord server.
https://discord.gg/wGrQNKX
The first pass at world generation (which is what Amidst uses) accurately places the three strongholds and since they are underground and not really sensitive to surface features will always be where Amidst says they are.
Other items, villages, witch huts, and temples have about a 10% chance of not being in an allowable location so they are not built after the world generator finalizes the surface features.
If you go to the exact coordinate that Amidst indicates should have an item and it's not there, chances are real good it's because the location is in a river, right on a biome edge, or on a very steep mountain slope.
I've seen some maps where all structures I checked actually existed and I've had other maps where 3 out of 4 villages and temples I looked for weren't there.
It's the nature of the beast.
There are no dangerous weapons. There are only dangerous people. R.A. Heinlein
If you aren't part of the solution, then you obviously weren't properly dissolved.
The latest release of Amidst, version 4.6 can be found here:
https://github.com/toolbox4minecraft/amidst/releases
You should probably also read this:
https://www.minecraftforum.net/forums/mapping-and-modding-java-edition/minecraft-tools/2970854-amidst-map-explorer-for-minecraft-1-14
You can find me on the Minecraft Forums Discord server.
https://discord.gg/wGrQNKX
Windows 7
Hmm, same as me.
This may or may not help.
NOTE: DO NOT try this if you aren't familiar with the dangers of editing the Windows registry!
Start Regedit.exe (If you don't know how to do this DO NOT try this. You can screw up your machine beyond belief.)
Do a Ctrl-F for "find" and enter "Amidst".
You will get A LOT of hits for Amidst.exe and any previous versions you've downloaded.
What you are looking for is an entry under Software/Javasoft/Prefs/Amidst
In that entry is a key labeled "jar".
On my machine this entry value is "/C:///Users///Alan///App/Data///Roaming//.minecraft//bin//minecraft.jar".
There is another key labeled "/Mo/F./Finder/Window" with the same path & file information but I have no idea what it is.
NOTE: I don't know what the multiple slashes mean.
Copy this to a text file somewhere just in case you need to change it back and then change it to point to where your .jar file is.
Now, a little story. I DO NOT have a minecraft.jar file in C:\Users\Alan\AppData\Roaming\.minecraft\bin!!!
I emailed Skidoodle and asked him about this and he said that if Amidst doesn't find minecraft.jar there it does a search looking in the versions folder and subfolders.
There are no dangerous weapons. There are only dangerous people. R.A. Heinlein
If you aren't part of the solution, then you obviously weren't properly dissolved.
The latest release of Amidst, version 4.6 can be found here:
https://github.com/toolbox4minecraft/amidst/releases
You should probably also read this:
https://www.minecraftforum.net/forums/mapping-and-modding-java-edition/minecraft-tools/2970854-amidst-map-explorer-for-minecraft-1-14
You can find me on the Minecraft Forums Discord server.
https://discord.gg/wGrQNKX
don't click this link...