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[HeadHunter67]

SnoekHook said:

If someone wants to change something in the pack, then they can most likely just post the edited image in the actual thread of the texture pack. I've seen a lot of threads that have this happen, and they seem to work pretty well.

I think that's generally a better idea, and a step in the right direction - though I think that courtesy should still require proper credits and permission from the original author to post.

[Fluesopp]

Agreed, to a certain degree.
Packs that are just remixes, which this poll is about, should be disallowed.

However, fan packs, that fix common problems, and where the original owner allows the pack, should be allowed.
There should also be invented a way of "fixing" texture packs.
Say, someone (a lot of people, surprisingly) doesn't like doku's new stone texture. Well, instead of releasing a whole new pack that only fixes the stone texture, there should be a way of releasing fixes, with only the fixed textures.

My idea for this is that you just make a terrain.png file, and leave the rest blank.
Then you zip it, like you would zip a normal texture pack, and run it through a program (which should be made), which fixes the textures automatically.

This allows fixing texture packs for people who doesn't have photoshop or don't know how to use gimp/paint.net, in a easy way.
Perhaps a gui could be made as well, to allow mixing several packs into one...
I think I'll investigate more on this idea.

[Grugsy]

just wanted to pop back in and say thank you for posting this Doku.. I don't think anyone else on this forum could have gotten this much attention to this.

[HeadHunter67]

ClaySmith said:

I believe compilation/mix packs are good ideas because I have yet to find 1 pack with every texture to my liking, and maybe one of the compilation packs has it?

With respect to your opinion, I would say this: If you've yet to find any one pack with every texture to your liking, why would a compilation pack be any different? Everyone's tastes differ, so even the remix would almost surely suffer from that problem.

The only logical solution is to mix a pack for yourself. This way you can be sure to have every texture to your liking and you don't need to wait or search for the right one. It's not that hard, and the software needed can be obtained for free.

[Grugsy]

Fluesopp said:

My idea for this is that you just make a terrain.png file, and leave the rest blank.
Then you zip it, like you would zip a normal texture pack, and run it through a program (which should be made), which fixes the textures automatically.

This allows fixing texture packs for people who doesn't have photoshop or don't know how to use gimp/paint.net, in a easy way.
Perhaps a gui could be made as well, to allow mixing several packs into one...
I think I'll investigate more on this idea.

it's just as easy to learn to copy/paste as it would be to learn to use a program that does it for you. since it would still involve pretty much the same amount of work. and really...paint.net.. you set your selection size to the proper texture size, select it, copy it and paste into the other terrain..it puts it in the correct place for you.

[Cake101]

I'm just sick and tired f all the remix packs being almost the same to eachother aside from 1 or 2 blocks

[MrBaCoNZz]

I agree. Wholeheartedly.

I do, however, think that some remixes, suck as Gerudoku, deserve to stay, as it is a lot of user submitted work. Every couple of posts someone seems to post their own handmade texture. This is an instance in which a texture pack remix can become an entire community, and something good.

But, I do grow weary of seeing 'OMFG DOKUJOHNSMITHMISA REMIX XTREME'

So I voted YES.

[IceQubed]

100% YES. There are so many packs that are just remixes these days that they are actually drowning out the decent, original packs made by good artists. I am just getting started with pixel art, helping make LemonCraft (http://www.minecraft...f=1021&t=325323), and I have never, and will never copy a texture. It is stealing somebody else's hard work.

[Darkfox190]

I voted yes.

However, I think that instead of an outright ban on remix packs or asking permission from people that might not be capable of being contacted - Like how doku himself vanished without a trace - That we could have a subsection of the Texture Packs forum dedicated to remixs and mix packs.

[Ionicawa]

I think artist have to right to say: "I give you permission to use my textures if you ASK for it." or "I will not give you permission to use ANY of my textures, even if you ask me."

And that would be the final word.

But there are artist out there who appreciate their textures being used in Compilations, as a sign of feedback, as I saw GestankeFaust say on one Compilation: "Wow, you used my Cobblestone texture, I didn't know people liked that one so much" (Or something around those lines)

I understand, for you, doku, it might be frustrated because there are millions of Doku RPG remixes flying around.
That's why I believe the artists themselves must say whether textures may be used, or not.

Using textures without asking, is, of course, wrong.
And those should be punished in their own way.

[doku]

Ionicawa said:

But there are artist out there who appreciate their textures being used in Compilations, as a sign of feedback, as I saw GestankeFaust say on one Compilation: "Wow, you used my Cobblestone texture, I didn't know people liked that one so much" (Or something around those lines)

I'm sure posting on the official thread something like "I liked your texture so much I added it to my compilation [screenshot]" would result in the same amount of appreciation, maybe more as it will also increase traffic to the original source.

[Ionicawa]

doku said:

Ionicawa said:

But there are artist out there who appreciate their textures being used in Compilations, as a sign of feedback, as I saw GestankeFaust say on one Compilation: "Wow, you used my Cobblestone texture, I didn't know people liked that one so much" (Or something around those lines)

I'm sure posting on the official thread something like "I liked your texture so much I added it to my compilation [screenshot]" would result in the same amount of appreciation, maybe more as it will also increase traffic to the original source.

I see where you are coming from, but then again, I think that is up to the original artist to decide. Because the artist knows best

In your case, you prefer not to have these mixture packs, and in that case, the user should respect your opinion and not use your textures for compilations.

That is, of course, my opinion.

[straxael]

Yes, of course!

Remixes of existing textures that are are shared on here and anywhere else on the internet should not be allowed, IMO. The way I see it, remixers get too much undeserved credit for work they did not create.

Stitching a couple of textures together is piss easy compared to the painstaking pixel work of genuine artists.

The only exception, IMO, is the Gerudoku Remix (largely maintained by tombones & Richasackboy), this pack is a progression of the discontinued doku RPG.

BTW, I have my own personal remix which I would never share or make public out of respect for the original texture artists.

[ksheep]

I voted an emphatic Yes.

I've noticed far too many packs circulating that are a mishmash of three or four other packs, with nothing new added. Many times, these packs don't add ANYTHING new, which is a complete waste of space on the forum.

What's worse is that half the time they don't ask permission first. The rules clearly state that you aren't allowed to use textures from other packs without getting permission BEFOREHAND.

IMHO, it should be OK for someone to use a SINGLE texture pack (maybe two, max) as a jumping off point for their own, IF they get permission and blessing from the original artist first. Also, I would hope that they have a certain percentage of their own textures on it (say, 25%) BEFORE they upload it, and they should have the intention of changing out ALL of them at some point. However, simply mixing and matching multiple texture packs and uploading it as your own is disrespectful to all involved, and should be banned (or at least tightly controlled).

[BillyTingle]

Yes yes yes. Just... yes. So much.

[Patchumz]

Definitely YES.

I hate seeing compilation packs, they spam the forums and are completely unneeded, they also are usually just a draw to get hits. I want more artists and less 12 year olds stealing other people's work to get them popular.

[Vetroit]

100% agree. This has always bothered me.

[Ubernox]

Voted Yes.

[drewbie]

I totally agree with this, and this is coming from someone who runs a remix pack. if remix texture packs wont be banned (mine included) they should at least be in another topic (texture pack remixes) or something, and leave this thread for all original content!

[Gestankfaust]

doku said:

Ionicawa said:

But there are artist out there who appreciate their textures being used in Compilations, as a sign of feedback, as I saw GestankeFaust say on one Compilation: "Wow, you used my Cobblestone texture, I didn't know people liked that one so much" (Or something around those lines)

I'm sure posting on the official thread something like "I liked your texture so much I added it to my compilation [screenshot]" would result in the same amount of appreciation, maybe more as it will also increase traffic to the original source.

I went ahead and added both quotes as they are both important to my opinion.

I reluctantly said to myself "ok...I won't make THIS ONE an argument" and allowed the use of my cobble. I get tired of arguing with the brain dead over the mix packs that don't ask or care about permission. I get tired of them being allowed in the first place. It was ok way back when there were only two or three. Now there's two or three a day it seems like. And the people posting them aren't doing any kind of support for them. They just post them, get a "oh that looks great" (for some reason), and leave the thread to be bumped by the masses.

So I totally voted yes. There are so many needless post cluttering the forums and drowning actual good works forcing them to the second/3rd/4th page after mere minutes.

As usual, the no votes make no sense as to why. Cause they can't make sense of it.

ClaySmith said:

Maybe these misunderstood packs just need a new home?

They aren't misunderstood...they are misused and abused constantly.