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[msmit71]

Modders tried Donation buttons...
They didn't work so well.

[Aero96]

msmit71 said:

Modders tried Donation buttons...
They didn't work so well.

I totally agree. I would also not donate for a mod I am using.
An exception I know was a donation to Alblaka from the Industrial Rage server.
But this server makes money with providing slots and IC is their feature.
So, unless a human being makes a lot of money with another one´s mod, a human being won´t donate.

(There is a rare exception of very very rich people, who don´t know what to do with their money. Let´s dream on...)

[msmit71]

Aero96 said:

msmit71 said:

Modders tried Donation buttons...
They didn't work so well.

I totally agree. I would also not donate for a mod I am using.
An exception I know was a donation to Alblaka from the Industrial Rage server.
But this server makes money with providing slots and IC is their feature.
So, unless a human being makes a lot of money with another one´s mod, a human being won´t donate.

(There is a rare exception of very very rich people, who don´t know what to do with their money. Let´s dream on...)

Plus, adf.ly means that you can make a few dollars without requiring mod downloaders to give you their money, and it also means you can get support (through adf.ly) from people who either won't or can't donate.

[Aero96]

msmit71 said:

Plus, adf.ly means that you can make a few dollars without requiring mod downloaders to give you their money, and it also means you can get support (through adf.ly) from people who either won't or can't donate.

That´s the reason why I will use Adf.ly =D
Advertisement is IMO the best method to make money in the internet. (Google, Facebook, Twitter etc. are good examples)

[EvilMonkeh]

Thanks OP, I absolutely hate it when people place mods on other sites with out the creators permission, it'd be like giving away hours of work, I'll make sure to place this on my future mods.  

[CtrlAltDe1337]

Copyrights don't mean jack if you don't do it through the government...lol.  I'm not sure what you are trying to do here.

[Rotten194]

CtrlAltDe1337 said:

Copyrights don't mean jack if you don't do it through the government...lol.  I'm not sure what you are trying to do here.

http://en.wikipedia....ining_copyright

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In all countries that are members of the Berne Convention, copyright is automatic and need not be obtained through official registration with any government office.

[monkeysez]

Please do not post wikipedia as a source for information. Take the time to actually invest in research if you are going to correct someone. Yes you are correct, copyright is automatic with the caveat that you really have no legal ground to stand on if you do not register it with the government.

http://www.copyright.gov/help/faq/

Do I have to register with your office to be protected?
No. In general, registration is voluntary. Copyright exists from the moment the work is created. You will have to register, however, if you wish to bring a lawsuit for infringement of a U.S. work. See Circular 1, Copyright Basics, section “Copyright Registration.”

Why should I register my work if copyright protection is automatic?
Registration is recommended for a number of reasons. Many choose to register their works because they wish to have the facts of their copyright on the public record and have a certificate of registration. Registered works may be eligible for statutory damages and attorney's fees in successful litigation. Finally, if registration occurs within 5 years of publication, it is considered prima facie evidence in a court of law. See Circular 1, Copyright Basics, section “Copyright Registration” and Circular 38b, Highlights of Copyright Amendments Contained in the Uruguay Round Agreements Act (URAA), on non-U.S. works.

[Rotten194]

monkeysez said:

Please do not post wikipedia as a source for information. Take the time to actually invest in research if you are going to correct someone. Yes you are correct, copyright is automatic with the caveat that you really have no legal ground to stand on if you do not register it with the government.

-just link it if it's that long-

I used Wikipedia becuase I'm not going to hunt for 20 minutes so satisfy 1 (or now I guess 2) random idiots on a forum.
NOBODY IS GOING TO SUE. Saying that the advantage of a registered copyright is damages in case of successful litigation is stupid. The point of these licenses isn't so we can sue someone, because who's going to sue over a mod? It's so when we're emailing a web host or asking someone to take something down we have a foot to stand on.
And I could have just as easily pulled that quote from the site you linked, so I don't see why you're whining about Wikipedia.

[Disori]

Rotten194 said:

I used Wikipedia becuase I'm not going to hunt for 20 minutes so satisfy 1 (or now I guess 2) random idiots on a forum.
NOBODY IS GOING TO SUE. Saying that the advantage of a registered copyright is damages in case of successful litigation is stupid. The point of these licenses isn't so we can sue someone, because who's going to sue over a mod? It's so when we're emailing a web host or asking someone to take something down we have a foot to stand on.
And I could have just as easily pulled that quote from the site you linked, so I don't see why you're whining about Wikipedia.

Agreed.


If anyone would like to write any other copyrights then feel free to do so.

I'll be adding a link to a longer list.

it will be adf.ly so I'll be adding an option to not do it.
Any new copyrights will be there.

[Tei]

This is ridiculous.

Modding is gray area. Tryiing to claim some right for you for something that is illegal is ridiculous.

As most mods are derivative work from Notch work, all mods are coauthored by notch and the mod author. Tryiing to put any copyright on that withouth Notch permision is probably a no-no.  

Is even more ridiculous wen the modder want to reserve for him rights like no decompiling.  Is decompiling how mods are made, and the mod author feel allowed to prohibid others what he is doing?  ridiculous!.

On my country all this stuff is void, but also... is not needed.  By making a creation, you are the author, so you have all the rights, no need to add this nonsense.

Go on, and add a readme file with help about installing the mod, and some credits line, but don't add some nonsense munbo jumbo legal credits that you don't even understand.

[P4INKiller]

Correct me if I'm wrong, but this is unnecessary.
Any work that you do is always copyright protected, and doesn't need any formal notice.

You're not adding any extra protection, the notices only serve to intimidate.

[P4INKiller]

Tei said:

This is ridiculous.

Modding is gray area. Tryiing to claim some right for you for something that is illegal is ridiculous.

Modding is not illegal, what would give you that idea?

Tei said:

As most mods are derivative work from Notch work, all mods are coauthored by notch and the mod author. Tryiing to put any copyright on that withouth Notch permision is probably a no-no.

This would be true if mods were distributed along with the original code, but they are not.

Tei said:

Is even more ridiculous wen the modder want to reserve for him rights like no decompiling.  Is decompiling how mods are made, and the mod author feel allowed to prohibid others what he is doing?  ridiculous!.

It is ridiculous to reserve the rights for decompiling sure, but not for redistribution.
The lines of code in a mod are considered a complete work.

Tei said:

On my country all this stuff is void, but also... is not needed.  By making a creation, you are the author, so you have all the rights, no need to add this nonsense.

I doubt copyright laws are void in your country, but you are right about formal notices not being required.

[123zc1]

Since it is my work, would I be able to use one of these for my player skins and texture packs?

[Zerogeist]

The massive amount of misunderstanding about what copyrights are, what intellectual property is, and how those effect Minecraft modders is STAGGERING in this thread, including in the OP and Mod posts here.

[CtrlAltDe1337]

Rotten194 said:

CtrlAltDe1337 said:

Copyrights don't mean jack if you don't do it through the government...lol.  I'm not sure what you are trying to do here.

http://en.wikipedia....ining_copyright

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In all countries that are members of the Berne Convention, copyright is automatic and need not be obtained through official registration with any government office.

If someone copies your stuff, your pseudo copyright ain't gonna be held up in court (if you were crazy enough to bring a suit over minecraft mods, lolz).  Thus, its only working on people's goodwill, making the use thereof pointless.  You should just keep a disclaimer about "please don't use my stuff without permission" like everyone already does.

[Rotten194]

CtrlAltDe1337 said:

Rotten194 said:

CtrlAltDe1337 said:

Copyrights don't mean jack if you don't do it through the government...lol.  I'm not sure what you are trying to do here.

http://en.wikipedia....ining_copyright

Quote

In all countries that are members of the Berne Convention, copyright is automatic and need not be obtained through official registration with any government office.

If someone copies your stuff, your pseudo copyright ain't gonna be held up in court (if you were crazy enough to bring a suit over minecraft mods, lolz).  Thus, its only working on people's goodwill, making the use thereof pointless.  You should just keep a disclaimer about "please don't use my stuff without permission" like everyone already does.

Because apparently "please don't use my stuff without permission" doesn't work with dicks like Gamekiller on the internet, so it's helpful when you're emailing their host with a takedown request to say I have copyright on this, this is the license I put on it, this directly infringes part of the license and most hosts aren't going to go to the US copyright office or wherever you live and actually check that your formally registered copyright. The license serves to make you look more professional then "herp this guy stole my stuff!!".

[soundwafflez]

Wrong section.
Nuff said.

[TehKrush]

soundwafflez said:

Wrong section.
Nuff said.

EPIC FAIL. This is a stickied thread.

[Gkardos]

monkeysez said:

Please do not post wikipedia as a source for information. Take the time to actually invest in research if you are going to correct someone. Yes you are correct, copyright is automatic with the caveat that you really have no legal ground to stand on if you do not register it with the government.

http://www.copyright.gov/help/faq/
-snip-

I hate when people say wikipedia is unreliable. At the bottom of the page it shows references, meaning, it's unlikely to be made up. And I bet one of those references leads to the place you specified.