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#1

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Posted 14 April 2011 - 04:09 AM

Bedrock has an 18 million BLAST RADIUS meaning, one cannot mine through it. But one can explode his or her way through.

TNT has a blast radius damage of 4. So we divide 18M by 4. Which would equal out to: 4,500,000. Meaning, it would take 4 million, 500 thousand TNT to destroy said block. And since blocks regenerate health when something Isn't touching it, means that you'd have to set of all 4.5M at ONCE. And I'm fairly sure no computer in the world could handle that.

I'm not sure if you can actually mine bedrock. Code for bedrock. hardness determines how hard it is to mine with a pickaxe, and resistance is how hard it is to destroy with an explosion. So, I'm pretty sure it's impossible to mine -1.
	bedrock = (new Block(7, 17, Material.rock)).setHardness(-1F).setResistance(6000000F).setStepSound(soundStoneFootstep).setBlockName("bedrock");

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Posted 14 April 2011 - 04:20 AM

Get Zombe's modpack.
Enable builder mod.
Break everything

#3

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Posted 14 April 2011 - 04:27 AM

Aeacus said:

Get Zombe's modpack.
Enable builder mod.
Break everything

Thats hardly the point.
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Posted 14 April 2011 - 04:29 AM

NoBanForFantoz said:

Aeacus said:

Get Zombe's modpack.
Enable builder mod.
Break everything

Thats hardly the point.

Lol I know. In all seriousness, bedrock can be broken by TNT, I've seen it in this video.
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This may be fake, though...

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Posted 14 April 2011 - 04:30 AM

No, considering the hardness is -1 and blocks break when it reaches 0 there is no possible chance of breaking it... But there IS a chance you can blow it up with shit loads of tnt
 
 
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Posted 14 April 2011 - 04:33 AM

there was a thread exactly like this a while ago on the forum. i cant find it cause search is broken.

but you need that all TNTs adjacents from the block you want to destroy, if you want to blast bedrock, you would need all the TNTs around the said block, with is impossible to archive.
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Posted 14 April 2011 - 04:33 AM

Unless you manage to get all that millions of TNT around the one block, you can't get through it.
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Posted 14 April 2011 - 04:34 AM

Brule said:

there was a thread exactly like this a while ago on the forum. i cant find it cause search is broken.

but you need that all TNTs adjacents from the block you want to destroy, if you want to blast bedrock, you would need all the TNTs around the said block, with is impossible to archive.

Exactly. There is no possible way of placing 4.5 MILLION TNT all around ONE block. And keeping it close enough to have maximum blast radius.
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Posted 14 April 2011 - 04:35 AM

Aeacus said:

NoBanForFantoz said:

Aeacus said:

Get Zombe's modpack.
Enable builder mod.
Break everything

Thats hardly the point.

Lol I know. In all seriousness, bedrock can be broken by TNT, I've seen it in this video.
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This may be fake, though...

It's not fake.  However, he didn't break bedrock either.  There was a lava lake there right around level 1 or 2.  Since lava lakes always have stone at the bottom, and they are generated after the bedrock, any bedrock that would normally make up the bottom of the lake gets turned into stone.  It is possible to break stone.
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Posted 14 April 2011 - 04:41 AM

1. get worldedit, either on singleplayer commands or Bukkit on a server.
2. type "//" into the textbox
3. Use the super pick axe to mine through the bedrock
4. ???
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Posted 14 April 2011 - 04:59 AM

NoBanForFantoz said:

Bedrock has an 18 million BLAST RADIUS meaning, one cannot mine through it. But one can explode his or her way through.

TNT has a blast radius damage of 4. So we divide 18M by 4. Which would equal out to: 4,500,000. Meaning, it would take 4 million, 500 thousand TNT to destroy said block. And since blocks regenerate health when something Isn't touching it, means that you'd have to set of all 4.5M at ONCE. And I'm fairly sure no computer in the world could handle that.

I'm not sure if you can actually mine bedrock. Code for bedrock. hardness determines how hard it is to mine with a pickaxe, and resistance is how hard it is to destroy with an explosion. So, I'm pretty sure it's impossible to mine -1.
	bedrock = (new Block(7, 17, Material.rock)).setHardness(-1F).setResistance(6000000F).setStepSound(soundStoneFootstep).setBlockName("bedrock");

Afaik, the only way to mine through bedrock, would be to mine it for so long you overflow the 'damage' integer, it wraps around to its ultimate negative limit, and you work your way back to -1. However, I estimate that would take somewhere between 10 and 60 years of holding down your mouse button, depending on what you were using to do it. I could be wrong about how exactly this programming is handled, but don't really care to check further into it.

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Posted 14 April 2011 - 05:10 AM

This has been done to death over and over again.

"Although debate has led over whether Bedrock is able to be destroyed, Notch confirmed on the 11th of February 2011, during a Machinima Live stream[2], that it is indestructible, or so solid that the amount of TNT(about 360,000) it would to take to destroy it would more than certainly crash your computer, therefore the save file would show no evidence of the explosion ever happening."

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Posted 14 April 2011 - 11:28 AM

TNT does not stack so all that TNT you can't stack onto one block would have the power of one TNT.

Just because Notch said that TNT would destroy bedrock with 360,000 blocks of it, doesn't make it true. There are other coders out there better than Notch, he is only one game developer and judging from te coding and several ingame tests, you can tell that the TNT would have no effect on Bedrock, let alone obsidian. It cannot be mined due to its -1 hardness unless of course that overflow stuff turns out to be true and there isn't a limit on how much damage a block can received.

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Posted 14 April 2011 - 11:47 AM

If you look at the video at 3:30 in you can see the massive circular pit around the hole in the bedrock, which to me just screams MCEdit, IFAIK TNT explosions do not make pits that smooth and circular, so I vote fake. (And also the hole in the unbreakable bedrock seals it.)
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Posted 14 April 2011 - 11:56 AM

Aeacus said:

NoBanForFantoz said:

Aeacus said:

Get Zombe's modpack.
Enable builder mod.
Break everything

Thats hardly the point.

Lol I know. In all seriousness, bedrock can be broken by TNT, I've seen it in this video.
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This may be fake, though...

That video made me cry  :)

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Posted 14 April 2011 - 12:19 PM

Aeacus said:

NoBanForFantoz said:

Aeacus said:

Get Zombe's modpack.
Enable builder mod.
Break everything

Thats hardly the point.

Lol I know. In all seriousness, bedrock can be broken by TNT, I've seen it in this video.
VFZKtvHQSNY

This may be fake, though...

That video is fake. It's been confirmed.

#17

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Posted 14 April 2011 - 12:57 PM

magicferret said:

This has been done to death over and over again.

"Although debate has led over whether Bedrock is able to be destroyed, Notch confirmed on the 11th of February 2011, during a Machinima Live stream[2], that it is indestructible, or so solid that the amount of TNT(about 360,000) it would to take to destroy it would more than certainly crash your computer, therefore the save file would show no evidence of the explosion ever happening."

/thread


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Posted 14 April 2011 - 01:06 PM

No, no, no, and no.

Also, no.

No amount of TNT will break bedrock, despite the quote from Notch. Further, bedrock cannot be broken by any amount of TNT, and huge amounts of TNT won't break it.

No amount of picking will break bedrock. Bedrock cannot be broken by an infinity of pickaxing, and using a pickaxe on it will never break it.

(The video is fake, and false to boot.)

Bedrock does not break. Breaking is a thing bedrock doesn't do, and not a thing bedrock does.

Here's a quick Venn diagram to explain it:
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In short, you cannot break bedrock.
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#19

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Posted 14 April 2011 - 01:10 PM

triggerfin said:

No, no, no, and no.

Also, no.

No amount of TNT will break bedrock, despite the quote from Notch. Further, bedrock cannot be broken by any amount of TNT, and huge amounts of TNT won't break it.

No amount of picking will break bedrock. Bedrock cannot be broken by an infinity of pickaxing, and using a pickaxe on it will never break it.

(The video is fake, and false to boot.)

Bedrock does not break. Breaking is a thing bedrock doesn't do, and not a thing bedrock does.

Here's a quick Venn diagram to explain it:
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In short, you cannot break bedrock.


Cool. Read the code, then go look at the blast radius of TNT. Its more of a can, but you can't thing.
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Posted 14 April 2011 - 01:12 PM

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Unless you manage to get all that millions of TNT around the one block, you can't get through it.
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And remember, they would all have to go off at once, not one by one.

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