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Posted 05 April 2013 - 07:33 PM

Hello, I created this thread for general discussion of Scientology and the Church of Scientology.

I made this a separate thread because Scientology is only recognized as a religion in a handful of countries.


Scientology teaches that all humans are spiritually immortal beings, and that they simply have forgotten how to harness (?) that ability to live immortal. Through a process called auditing, subjects experience traumatic events in an attempt to acquire the knowledge of immortality again. This service is given in exchange for an unspecified value of donations.

Or something like that.

From a direct quote from the founder, L. Ron Hubbard stated that a human that does not believe in a god is not a human, but a thing.

Discuss and all that.

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Posted 05 April 2013 - 08:11 PM

L. Ron Hubbard was a fraud and a crackpot.  Do some research into Scientology and you'll see.  Scientology, like most religion, preys on the weak willed / weak minded and seeks to control people's thoughts and actions.  Your time and attention is better spent on anything other than this fake belief system created by a mediocre fiction author.  He started Scientology when he realized he could make more money selling people his fake religion than writing short stories and novels.

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Posted 05 April 2013 - 08:21 PM

A claim is only as good as the evidence that backs it. Hubbard failed to prove is case. Spectacularly. Still, people who are lost and looking for something to believe in will always gravitate toward an ideology that purports to have all the answers. Come and swim in the ocean of uncertainty a while instead. The water's fine.
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Posted 05 April 2013 - 08:56 PM

My problem with calling Scientology a religion is, to be quite frank, is because it costs money. And I don't mean like in terms of a tithe or anything like that. But more like billing, and vast amounts. You have to pay to enter, you have to pay to move up, you have to pay for this and that. And like I said, it's no small amount of money, either. I find it hard to justify this as a religious practice when it's essentially for-profit.

And that's not touching on other... details.
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Posted 05 April 2013 - 10:10 PM

They make all the heinous crap done by most of the religions (actual religions, too!) in the world look like nothing in comparison to the stupid stuff they do.

Tax the hell out of 'em.

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Posted 06 April 2013 - 01:43 AM

My thoughts:
L. Ron Hubbard-"Hey guys,I'm making this entirely new and true religion! And it sounds a helluva lot like my science fiction books! If you want to learn more,give me YO GODDAMN MONEY!"

On a bit of a sarcastic tone,those are my thoughts.

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Posted 06 April 2013 - 07:01 AM

Cause cash is a direct connection to religious practice.

In other words, "Yeah...uhm, we don't use that word around here, we call that 'stupid'."
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Posted 06 April 2013 - 12:29 PM

There is something extremely sinister about a group that piles up increasing amount of money from people, makes these new "operating levels" as people get to climb the ladder, gathers all the dirtiest secrets of people by auditing and has full blown operations to infiltrate different agencies or to silence certain individuals (Operation Snow White and Operation Freakout).

Also, they stonewall anyone who tries to understand what they actually believe about reality. All other major religions have some kind of common beliefs (with some individual variance) that are pretty much public, but try to ask a Scientologist and you get nothing but Deepak Chopra claptrap. It hasn't been until high level people actually broke out of the Scientology circles and revealed what was kind of stories they were fed.

This whole "church" of Scientology is a scary combination of a corporation and a cult. And even scarier - that business model works.
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Posted 06 April 2013 - 04:32 PM

It's obviosly a cult scam. Mormonism as well but at least they're generally nice people.

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Posted 06 April 2013 - 04:38 PM

I really consider it an organization more than a religion, but that's my opinion.  The fact that you have to pay into it, sort of makes it exclusive like a paid organization rather than Faith.

View PostUnyobro, on 06 April 2013 - 04:32 PM, said:

It's obviosly a cult scam. Mormonism as well but at least they're generally nice people.

At least with Mormonism, you don't have to pay boat-loads of money into it (as far as I know)...

View Postlolpierandom, on 05 April 2013 - 10:10 PM, said:

They make all the heinous crap done by most of the religions (actual religions, too!) in the world look like nothing in comparison to the stupid stuff they do.

Tax the hell out of 'em.

Why would you tax them more than any other organization?

If people really want to be scammed part of this organization, then I don't see why the government has to dip its hands in their business.


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Posted 06 April 2013 - 07:11 PM

So a man, a fiction writer near the end of his career suddenly gets enlightened about the truth of humanitys origins and purpose? Totaly no ulterior motives there!
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Posted 06 April 2013 - 08:11 PM

View PostKEK Inc., on 06 April 2013 - 04:38 PM, said:

I really consider it an organization more than a religion, but that's my opinion.  The fact that you have to pay into it, sort of makes it exclusive like a paid organization rather than Faith.



At least with Mormonism, you don't have to pay boat-loads of money into it (as far as I know)...



Why would you tax them more than any other organization?

If people really want to be scammed part of this organization, then I don't see why the government has to dip its hands in their business.

For all the tax evasion they've gotten away with as a "religion" (religion my bum, these guys...Can't even describe em.)

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Posted 06 April 2013 - 08:45 PM

When I think of scientologists, I think of this...
I know, it's creepy.
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Posted 06 April 2013 - 08:47 PM

View PostTrexmaster, on 06 April 2013 - 08:45 PM, said:

When I think of scientologists, I think of this...
I know, it's creepy.
What is that?

God I'm going to have nightmares.

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Posted 06 April 2013 - 08:55 PM

View PostAbandon_Ships, on 06 April 2013 - 08:47 PM, said:

What is that?

God I'm going to have nightmares.

The chopper. The same guy that made the hands seen as my avatar.

Nah, don't worry. I little sweat didn't hurt anybody... but then again, it could be paranoia too...
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Posted 06 April 2013 - 09:01 PM

View PostFireroseNekowolf, on 05 April 2013 - 08:56 PM, said:

And that's not touching on other... details.
"Other planned elements of the operation included petitioning governments and the United Nations to charge government critics of Scientology with genocide, on the theory that official criticism of the group constituted 'deliberately inflicting on the group conditions of life calculated to bring about its physical destruction'."

And I thought Westboro was bad...

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Posted 06 April 2013 - 10:08 PM

View PostKEK Inc., on 06 April 2013 - 04:38 PM, said:


At least with Mormonism, you don't have to pay boat-loads of money into it (as far as I know)...

Well they require members to tithe or give 10% of their income to the church. It's estimated that they recieve 7billion a year from it. That's not counting the people who refuse to disclose their info, like Mitt Romney. The church also owns millions, or billions, in other property. They're more than filthy rich yet they reap the benefit of tax exempt status. All that for a scam cooked up by a known crook.

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Posted 06 April 2013 - 10:11 PM

Dear Xenu in the cosmos, look at all of these heathens!

Well, I guess experiencing the scathing idiocy of these nonbelievers is my auditing for today.

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Posted 06 April 2013 - 11:13 PM

View PostTheEvanCat, on 06 April 2013 - 10:11 PM, said:

look at all of these heathens!
And doubly so! Come here, Evan, let me spread all my scathing idiocy of non-belief all over you. Xenu will be pleased. Just pay an extra $8,000 and you can reach the next level!

Think of it like power-leveling, but with cash shops.
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Posted 07 April 2013 - 01:32 AM

They're great. Thanks to them, I'm making it to heaven for only three payments of $50,000!
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Ehhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh no...