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Posted 12 March 2013 - 10:15 PM

Hello, I have a few questions about the 2GB NVIDIA GEFORCE GTX 660

1. Will it run SEUS smoothly?
2. Will it record Minecraft smoothly?
3. Will it run 512x texture packs smoothly?
4. What kind of FPS would it get on vanilla Minecraft?

The original PC can be found here. Pretty much everything is the same as the default package except obviously the graphics card.

Also which specs are better?

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Posted 12 March 2013 - 10:37 PM

View PostRekrab, on 12 March 2013 - 10:15 PM, said:

Hello, I have a few questions about the 2GB NVIDIA GEFORCE GTX 660

1. Will it run SEUS smoothly?
2. Will it record Minecraft smoothly?
3. Will it run 512x texture packs smoothly?
4. What kind of FPS would it get on vanilla Minecraft?

The original PC can be found here. Pretty much everything is the same as the default package except obviously the graphics card.
The card can run SEUS.
Not sure about recording with SEUS, but maybe.
The x512 could probably be run.
on vanilla, far/fancy will get you greater than 100 fps at the least, tiny/fast will give you unrealistic fps like maybe 2000 or 3000 (if looking up and in the sky all the way.)
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Posted 12 March 2013 - 11:11 PM

To do what you want, that Pre-Built will do quite poorly. There is no need for a 680, given a HD7970 is cheaper and a bit faster. An putting a high end card such as that into such system is like putting a v8 engine into a Volkswagen bug.

SEUS is overrated as there is a better shaders mod BY FAR.

512x512 texture pack is overrated, use and stick with 256x256. I have compared the 2 at 1080p and the difference is non existent.

Here is some examples of parts needed based on my OWN machine for what you need; you need at most a i5 "IVB at most", 8GB of ram standard DDR3, at most 2 good HDDs "one for OS, one for recording to" and a good z77 chip-set motherboard for using Quick Sync.

To be brief and very simple here you cannot do what you want on a low end prebuilt like that. You are much better off to build your own system as a prebuilt for what you want will cost in the thousands while a custom built to do the same maybe less then £1300 with VAT.

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Posted 13 March 2013 - 03:35 AM

for that pc its stupid, it comes with a A10 APU (which is a cpu and GPu in one) so adding a 2nd GPU is wastefull.
build this instead


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CPU:  AMD FX-8320 3.5GHz 8-Core Processor  (£125.94 @ Aria PC)
Motherboard:  MSI 970A-G46 ATX  AM3+ Motherboard  (£47.94 @ Aria PC)
Memory:  Crucial 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1333 Memory  (£31.82 @ Amazon UK)
Storage:  Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  (£50.34 @ Aria PC)
Video Card:  XFX Radeon HD 7950 3GB Video Card  (£216.98 @ Dabs)
Case:  NZXT Tempest 210 ATX Mid Tower Case  (£54.75 @ Amazon UK)
Power Supply:  XFX 550W 80 PLUS Bronze Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply  (£48.17 @ Aria PC)
Optical Drive:  Lite-On iHAS124-04 DVD/CD Writer  (£11.45 @ Amazon UK)
Operating System:  Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 (OEM) (64-bit)  (£67.19 @ Aria PC)
Total: £654.58
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Posted 13 March 2013 - 04:11 AM

View Postaceattwister, on 13 March 2013 - 03:35 AM, said:

for that pc its stupid, it comes with a A10 APU (which is a cpu and GPu in one) so adding a 2nd GPU is wastefull.
build this instead


PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU:  AMD FX-8320 3.5GHz 8-Core Processor  (£125.94 @ Aria PC)
Motherboard:  MSI 970A-G46 ATX  AM3+ Motherboard  (£47.94 @ Aria PC)
Memory:  Crucial 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1333 Memory  (£31.82 @ Amazon UK)
Storage:  Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  (£50.34 @ Aria PC)
Video Card:  XFX Radeon HD 7950 3GB Video Card  (£216.98 @ Dabs)
Case:  NZXT Tempest 210 ATX Mid Tower Case  (£54.75 @ Amazon UK)
Power Supply:  XFX 550W 80 PLUS Bronze Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply  (£48.17 @ Aria PC)
Optical Drive:  Lite-On iHAS124-04 DVD/CD Writer  (£11.45 @ Amazon UK)
Operating System:  Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 (OEM) (64-bit)  (£67.19 @ Aria PC)
Total: £654.58
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-03-13 03:35 GMT+0000)
I don't think the OP asked for a build..
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Posted 13 March 2013 - 04:13 AM

View PostMutant_Doctor, on 13 March 2013 - 04:11 AM, said:

I don't think the OP asked for a build..
its a 0 for 1 special. ask for none, but get one anyways!

i'm suggesting better than the pc he listed. because as we all know, built by you is better than a pre built.
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Posted 13 March 2013 - 04:22 AM

View Postaceattwister, on 13 March 2013 - 04:13 AM, said:

its a 0 for 1 special. ask for none, but get one anyways!

i'm suggesting better than the pc he listed. because as we all know, built by you is better than a pre built.
Built by me... Yeah, I hope you've seen my build log. All went horrible
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Posted 13 March 2013 - 04:39 AM

View PostMutant_Doctor, on 13 March 2013 - 04:22 AM, said:

Built by me... Yeah, I hope you've seen my build log. All went horrible
IIRC i followed it aroun dthe CPU cooler hangup. lost intrest after that.

TBH took me 30mins today to build a GPUless computer at work today. so yea, everyone is differant.

And it could be worse, at least you didn't get a Alianware.
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Posted 13 March 2013 - 06:48 AM

What is really good I've found is a GTX 670 @ about 1000+ghz and having at least 12gb of ram dedicated to minecraft. I've been getting over 50 fps (multiplayer) with SEUS+512x texture packs while recording as well as all settings on optifine turned to max. Be warned using multi-core rendering will cause chunk glitching. (70fps when not recording)

BTW your pc will not be capable of powering any high level GPUs and the APU will not have strong enough single threading performance for the settings you want to run Minecraft at.
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Posted 13 March 2013 - 04:36 PM

View Post1TrollLtd, on 12 March 2013 - 10:37 PM, said:

The card can run SEUS.
Not sure about recording with SEUS, but maybe.
The x512 could probably be run.
on vanilla, far/fancy will get you greater than 100 fps at the least, tiny/fast will give you unrealistic fps like maybe 2000 or 3000 (if looking up and in the sky all the way.)

Thanks this looks hopeful but it seems other people have other ideas

View PostSeaWry, on 12 March 2013 - 11:11 PM, said:

Here is some examples of parts needed based on my OWN machine for what you need; you need at most a i5 "IVB at most", 8GB of ram standard DDR3, at most 2 good HDDs "one for OS, one for recording to" and a good z77 chip-set motherboard for using Quick Sync.

To be brief and very simple here you cannot do what you want on a low end prebuilt like that. You are much better off to build your own system as a prebuilt for what you want will cost in the thousands while a custom built to do the same maybe less then £1300 with VAT.

Well my budget is only £756 and I need a monitor aswell

View Postaceattwister, on 13 March 2013 - 03:35 AM, said:

for that pc its stupid, it comes with a A10 APU (which is a cpu and GPu in one) so adding a 2nd GPU is wastefull.
build this instead


I am not keen on building it myself as I don't want to break anything or build it and then have it not work

View PostDraconbane, on 13 March 2013 - 06:48 AM, said:

What is really good I've found is a GTX 670 @ about 1000+ghz and having at least 12gb of ram dedicated to minecraft. I've been getting over 50 fps (multiplayer) with SEUS+512x texture packs while recording as well as all settings on optifine turned to max. Be warned using multi-core rendering will cause chunk glitching. (70fps when not recording)

BTW your pc will not be capable of powering any high level GPUs and the APU will not have strong enough single threading performance for the settings you want to run Minecraft at.

I think 12gb of RAM is loads over the top as if you add too much, it can actually lower your fps. Wouldn't it be powered fine as long as it is a 450W power supply?

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Posted 13 March 2013 - 05:34 PM

View PostRekrab, on 13 March 2013 - 04:36 PM, said:

Thanks this looks hopeful but it seems other people have other ideas


Well my budget is only £756 and I need a monitor aswell



I am not keen on building it myself as I don't want to break anything or build it and then have it not work


I think 12gb of RAM is loads over the top as if you add too much, it can actually lower your fps. Wouldn't it be powered fine as long as it is a 450W power supply?

Its very easy.



If something is DOA you can RMA it  but there is a very slim chance you will break anything unless you are stupid about it. and what you end up with is cheaper, better and more reliable



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Storage:  Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  (£50.34 @ Aria PC)
Video Card:  HIS Radeon HD 7850 1GB Video Card  (£135.79 @ Amazon UK)
Case:  NZXT Source 210 Elite (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case  (£39.95 @ Aria PC)
Power Supply:  XFX 550W 80 PLUS Bronze Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply  (£48.17 @ Aria PC)
Optical Drive:  Lite-On iHAS124-04 DVD/CD Writer  (£11.45 @ Amazon UK)
Operating System:  Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 (OEM) (64-bit)  (£67.19 @ Aria PC)
Monitor:  Dell U2312HM 23.0" Monitor  (£162.37 @ CCL Computers)
Total: £708.21
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View Postfm87, on 15 August 2013 - 09:50 PM, said:

They are as much "hackers" as Obama is a giant reptilian space toaster.

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Posted 13 March 2013 - 06:01 PM

View PostKruzzik_Kel, on 13 March 2013 - 05:34 PM, said:

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CPU:  AMD FX-6300 3.5GHz 6-Core Processor  (£99.98 @ Aria PC)
Motherboard:  Asus M5A97 LE R2.0 ATX  AM3+ Motherboard  (£59.98 @ Dabs)
Memory:  Patriot Signature 8GB (1 x 8GB) DDR3-1333 Memory  (£32.99 @ Amazon UK)
Storage:  Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  (£50.34 @ Aria PC)
Video Card:  HIS Radeon HD 7850 1GB Video Card  (£135.79 @ Amazon UK)
Case:  NZXT Source 210 Elite (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case  (£39.95 @ Aria PC)
Power Supply:  XFX 550W 80 PLUS Bronze Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply  (£48.17 @ Aria PC)
Optical Drive:  Lite-On iHAS124-04 DVD/CD Writer  (£11.45 @ Amazon UK)
Operating System:  Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 (OEM) (64-bit)  (£67.19 @ Aria PC)
Monitor:  Dell U2312HM 23.0" Monitor  (£162.37 @ CCL Computers)
Total: £708.21
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
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Okay, what kind of performance would this give me?

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Posted 13 March 2013 - 06:08 PM

View PostRekrab, on 13 March 2013 - 06:01 PM, said:

Okay, what kind of performance would this give me?

hard to judge with minecraft, even worse with mods like SEUS, but it should perform well

View Postfm87, on 15 August 2013 - 09:50 PM, said:

They are as much "hackers" as Obama is a giant reptilian space toaster.

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Posted 13 March 2013 - 08:11 PM

View PostKruzzik_Kel, on 13 March 2013 - 06:08 PM, said:

hard to judge with minecraft, even worse with mods like SEUS, but it should perform well

I have decided to stick with getting a pre-built PC, I am just looking for more people to answer the questions so I know that it is what I'm looking for

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Posted 13 March 2013 - 09:47 PM

View PostRekrab, on 13 March 2013 - 08:11 PM, said:

I have decided to stick with getting a pre-built PC, I am just looking for more people to answer the questions so I know that it is what I'm looking for

Might well then sadly give up playing with minecraft shaders at all. Again its dumb to use texture packs above 256x256 because difference isn't really there for the pixels do not simply exist.

Again, you want at most a FX-6300/i5 of the ivy bridge category, 8GB of ram bare minimum, Hd7850 "minimum" or Nvidia 650Ti or higher.

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Posted 13 March 2013 - 09:55 PM

View PostSeaWry, on 13 March 2013 - 09:47 PM, said:

Might well then sadly give up playing with minecraft shaders at all. Again its dumb to use texture packs above 256x256 because difference isn't really there for the pixels do not simply exist.

Again, you want at most a FX-6300/i5 of the ivy bridge category, 8GB of ram bare minimum, Hd7850 "minimum" or Nvidia 650Ti or higher.

Alas, my budget can only stretch to an FX-4130 with 8GB of RAM and a 2GB NVIDIA GTX 660
Will that do?

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Posted 13 March 2013 - 09:59 PM

View PostRekrab, on 13 March 2013 - 09:55 PM, said:

Alas, my budget can only stretch to an FX-4130 with 8GB of RAM and a 2GB NVIDIA GTX 660
Will that do?
Go 6300+7850. Should be able to fit that in your budget.

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Posted 13 March 2013 - 10:13 PM

View Postjppk1, on 13 March 2013 - 09:59 PM, said:

Go 6300+7850. Should be able to fit that in your budget.
Cool, how good will this be performance-wise

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Posted 13 March 2013 - 11:13 PM

View PostRekrab, on 13 March 2013 - 10:13 PM, said:

Cool, how good will this be performance-wise
Good. We can't estimate FPS that well. I don't think.
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Posted 14 March 2013 - 01:15 AM

View PostSeaWry, on 13 March 2013 - 09:47 PM, said:

Again, you want at most a FX-6300/i5 of the ivy bridge category
I have a i3 2120 and it runs shaders decently. When I put my new gpu in (gtx 660), i got 60+ fps. (with a x32 texture pack, not 256).

Also to note, OP, x512 textures is nearly pointless to have.
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