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[JoshCamas]

Since Hoppers can connect to each other, why not have hopper tubes that don't have a top thing?

And I would be AWESOME if Repeaters had a 0-tick option, so they could just make the signal stronger with no delay, unless the new compare-thing could do that instead....

How do you like my ideas?

[toatanu]

Tubes, though stealing from Buildcraft, are necessary at this point, I suppose. And really a new block should be used instead of a 0-state repeater - The way a Repeater is designed, I don't see how that would work anyway, though I do know how unrealistic Minecraft is.

[d3fin3d]

You can already make long 0 tick redstone circuits by lining up a load of redstone comparators. I'm not entirely sure how many redstone dust are required between each comparator though.

[Natecraft]

d3fin3d, on 06 January 2013 - 11:17 PM, said:

You can already make long 0 tick redstone circuits by lining up a load of redstone comparators. I'm not entirely sure how many redstone dust are required between each comparator though.

All you have to do is put a redstone signal with a strength of 15 and a long line of comparators will output a signal strength of 15 at the end, you can even have the line alternate with redstone dust and comparators and it will stay a strength of 15.

But that is just a bug/unfinished feature I think, so don't place bets on simple instawire just yet.

[Chefbarbie]

Sethbling made a vid about instant infinite signals.

toatanu, on 06 January 2013 - 11:08 PM, said:

Tubes, though stealing from Buildcraft, are necessary at this point, I suppose. And really a new block should be used instead of a 0-state repeater - The way a Repeater is designed, I don't see how that would work anyway, though I do know how unrealistic Minecraft is.

Mojang can use any content from any mod ever made. This is their RIGHT as the owners of the modded code.
ergo... they steal / stole NOTHING. please understand how these things work before spouting off.

[Benjamin5349]

Chefbarbie, on 06 January 2013 - 11:22 PM, said:

Mojang can use any content from any mod ever made. This is their RIGHT as the owners of the modded code.
ergo... they steal / stole NOTHING. please understand how these things work before spouting off.

How very true. If no content could be taken from mods, Minecraft would never update because the fantastic modding communitry has done basically everything.

[JoshCamas]

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You can already make long 0 tick redstone circuits by lining up a load of redstone comparators. I'm not entirely sure how many redstone dust are required between each comparator though.

Yeah, but they get input from the sides and it looks kinda ugly. (But it's better than nothing)

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Tubes, though stealing from Buildcraft, are necessary at this point, I suppose.

Oh so hoppers was originally a mod? Interesting.

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The way a Repeater is designed, I don't see how that would work anyway, though I do know how unrealistic Minecraft is.

Just have 5 different modes ~ 0-ticks, 1-tick, 2-ticks, 3-ticks, 4-ticks.
But that seems a bit drawn out, so meh.

[Sven_The_Slayer]

Suggestions should be made in the suggestions sub forum.

I do think pipes/tubes would be a great addition to hoppers

There is a reason there is a delay in circuits.  I'd be happy with just glass(so you can still see the signal strength) insulated wire to keep lines from crossing.

[quadrupedal_pink_equine]

JoshCamas, on 06 January 2013 - 10:52 PM, said:

Since Hoppers can connect to each other, why not have hopper tubes that don't have a top thing?

And I would be AWESOME if Repeaters had a 0-tick option, so they could just make the signal stronger with no delay, unless the new compare-thing could do that instead....

How do you like my ideas?

I'd be all for the tubes, but until then creative use of chest minecarts or water flows will do the trick. Dispensers to dispense items, hoppers to collect them, detector rails, so many possibilities now...

the 0 tick repeaters are indeed a function of the comparator, which had sethbling all giddy. He obsessed with it even more than the hopper, so there must be some incredible value to this I'm not seeing.

[UltimateTurkk]

Benjamin5349, on 06 January 2013 - 11:46 PM, said:

How very true. If no content could be taken from mods, Minecraft would never update because the fantastic modding communitry has done basically everything.

Agreed.

[Phycozz]

I'm 85% sure Mojang won't be adding pipes any time soon...

[The_Fool76]

You can already use hoppers as tubes by connecting them to each other, they just can't transport stuff up.  

Of course Mojang has said several time that they will not be adding pipes to the game.
Minecarts are meant to be the real solution to moving goods over longer distances.

[Syline]

Chefbarbie, on 06 January 2013 - 11:22 PM, said:

Mojang can use any content from any mod ever made. This is their RIGHT as the owners of the modded code.
ergo... they steal / stole NOTHING. please understand how these things work before spouting off.

I'd like you to understand how things work before you use capital letters to exclaim your point. You obviously do not know anything copyright.

Hint: just because you wrote a program for Windows doesn't make that program Microsoft's property.

The mods were written by modders, therefore the modders own the full rights to their mods. This is pretty default in any copyright law in any country: the copyright of a work is assigned to it's creator. You'd need to transfer copyright for this to be different. Mojang's TOS permits people to modify and distribute modificated parts of the game, and it even mentions that the modders retain the right of the things they write from scratch. (That is all the code other than the minecraft code.)

Mojang doesn't own a single thing from the mods except the minecraft code which the modders used. If mojang were to use the code written by a modder without his/her permission, it'd be a criminal offense under the US law. Mojang lives in Sweden, so the incredibly flawed US law doesn't apply there, but it will at the very least get an injunction order.

So, how come mojang can add content from mods to their game? It's pretty simple: the modder owns the source code, binary code, graphics and sound, but not the idea. The copyright law states that ideas are not protected; you'd need a patent for that. Mojang can add content similar to that of an existing mod to their game provided that they create everything themselves from scratch.

[Debugman18]

Syline, on 08 January 2013 - 07:39 PM, said:

I'd like you to understand how things work before you use capital letters to exclaim your point. You obviously do not know anything copyright.

Hint: just because you wrote a program for Windows doesn't make that program Microsoft's property.

The mods were written by modders, therefore the modders own the full rights to their mods. This is pretty default in any copyright law in any country: the copyright of a work is assigned to it's creator. You'd need to transfer copyright for this to be different. Mojang's TOS permits people to modify and distribute modificated parts of the game, and it even mentions that the modders retain the right of the things they write from scratch. (That is all the code other than the minecraft code.)

Mojang doesn't own a single thing from the mods except the minecraft code which the modders used. If mojang were to use the code written by a modder without his/her permission, it'd be a criminal offense under the US law. Mojang lives in Sweden, so the incredibly flawed US law doesn't apply there, but it will at the very least get an injunction order.

So, how come mojang can add content from mods to their game? It's pretty simple: the modder owns the source code, binary code, graphics and sound, but not the idea. The copyright law states that ideas are not protected; you'd need a patent for that. Mojang can add content similar to that of an existing mod to their game provided that they create everything themselves from scratch.

And that's what they're doing. Also, the windows metaphor is actually pretty poor. You do not 'write something for windows' you write something in a programming language. If somebody took a piece of windows, and modified it, then you have what you described. But nobody 'writes for windows', rather they compile their code into an executable. If they were to rewrite a part of Microsoft's code, and were to distribute it, they would be in the wrong.

Also, you're wrong anyways. Mojang is not an American company, US copyright law DOES NOT apply. And you would be wise to read this in full before making any such assumptions:

https://minecraft.net/terms

Long story short, Mojang can do whatever they want with any mods that are made for Minecraft. However, they usually ask first and respect the creator of the mod, unless it is a real-life adaption, such as the hopper, or carrots, or potatoes, and so forth.

Edit: It should be noted that the above does not include textures and the like.

[Sambaru]

Mojang will never add pipes, because hoppers wok like pipes.

[TheHomeChicken]

JoshCamas, on 08 January 2013 - 12:08 AM, said:

Oh so hoppers was originally a mod? Interesting.

I'm not sure how you got "hoppers being a mod" from "tubes are stealing from BuildCraft" lol.
But ironically, they actually were a mod, sort of. Check out The Allocator mod.

[0strichGuy11]

No pipes. It ruins the new use of chest carts, and I guess for 0 Tick repeaters. but SethBling created a new circuit for instant wire.

[ablufferbob]

[spoiler]This is a test as this DIDNOT work on my other posts[/spoiler]

[Debugman18]

ablufferbob, on 08 January 2013 - 10:05 PM, said:

[spoiler]This is a test as this DIDNOT work on my other posts[/spoiler]

Err. You can't

Spoiler:

use spoilers?

Try only making the font inside colored.

[KingTrygon]

If Eloraam can steal Buildcraft pipes and get away with it, Mojang probably could to. Though as with most mods, unless it was a suggestion before, the Modder would probably get asked and credited.