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The Minecraft Seed Conspiracy

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#1

AnAppforThat

Posted 14 November 2012 - 03:24 AM

The Conspiracy:

Seeds, we love them and we hate them. Some can Spawn us in lava pits(if I remember correctly "winter" from 1.8.2), and some can spawn us in NPC villages with diamonds. We can get lost in Jungle biomes, travel the mountainous terrain, and fall to our deaths in ravines. Although no one every stopped to think, what if the seed is just setting our initial spawn location? That's right, what if the world is the exact same world every single time? We just don't know it because the world is so big? No one would every know! with a world size of 12,000,000 by 12,000,000 blocks. And the infamous Far Lands was just corrupted world edge that the Minecraft just can't handle. What do you think? Fact? or Fake?

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#2

MinerShadis

Posted 14 November 2012 - 03:38 AM

i never thought about that! kool theory!

#3

monkeyes114

Posted 14 November 2012 - 03:40 AM

Strongholds?

Kind of mess with your idea.

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Posted 14 November 2012 - 03:48 AM

Maybe strongholds just generate separately from the world.

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AnAppforThat

Posted 14 November 2012 - 03:48 AM


View Postmonkeyes114, on 14 November 2012 - 03:40 AM, said:

Strongholds?

Kind of mess with your idea.

What if 3 strongholds a map is just what mojang wants you to believe?  There could be many more my friend.

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Posted 14 November 2012 - 03:59 AM

View PostAnAppforThat, on 14 November 2012 - 03:48 AM, said:

What if 3 strongholds a map is just what mojang wants you to believe?  There could be many more my friend.
lolno. There are three strongholds per world, check the code if you need that much proof. As for your theory, it isn't the same world. Again, you can probably check the code for the terrain generation.
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#7

AnAppforThat

Posted 14 November 2012 - 04:03 AM

View PostFinalStrike97, on 14 November 2012 - 03:59 AM, said:

lolno. There are three strongholds per world, check the code if you need that much proof. As for your theory, it isn't the same world. Again, you can probably check the code for the terrain generation.

I thought it would take longer but this "theory"  isn't necessarily meant to be taken seriously. It is just meant for a good laugh.

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Posted 14 November 2012 - 04:11 AM

View PostAnAppforThat, on 14 November 2012 - 04:03 AM, said:

I thought it would take longer but this "theory"  isn't necessarily meant to be taken seriously. It is just meant for a good laugh.
Honestly, I have no idea how someone would find this funny.
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Posted 14 November 2012 - 04:17 AM

I think this is a new way of thinking about things, even if it may not be true.  I think it's quite interesting, very thoughtful.

#10

AnAppforThat

Posted 14 November 2012 - 04:31 AM

View PostFinalStrike97, on 14 November 2012 - 04:11 AM, said:

Honestly, I have no idea how someone would find this funny.

Because of how ridiculous it is...

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Posted 14 November 2012 - 04:43 AM

View PostAnAppforThat, on 14 November 2012 - 04:31 AM, said:

Because of how ridiculous it is...
No, because I just can't see anyone laughing at this saying, "Lololol, that's hilarious".
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Posted 14 November 2012 - 04:50 AM

not so much funny but very interesting to imagine if that were the case. while there is proof its not it would be very interesting to mess around with if it were
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Posted 14 November 2012 - 04:51 AM

View PostAnAppforThat, on 14 November 2012 - 04:31 AM, said:

Because of how ridiculous it is...

Sooo, you mean we should read it in the voice of Keanu Reeves then?

I actually can prove it wrong though. Looking over the whole world in one go is really, really boring and tedious and I'm not gonna do it without a good reason so you'll just have to trust in me, even though I won't post a video of me doing it, it can be done and I know firsthand it's not all the same world.
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Posted 14 November 2012 - 04:53 AM

View PostFinalStrike97, on 14 November 2012 - 04:11 AM, said:

Honestly, I have no idea how someone would find this funny.

Yep...

Although this theory has already been disproved... I can't see how 8 million users can share 1 world without murdering there computers in the process.
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Posted 14 November 2012 - 04:57 AM

I think that this could actually be though

#16

opticflame

Posted 14 November 2012 - 04:58 AM

A minecraft world is infinite. They go on forever, some land has to be the same as the other. Impossible for that not to be true.

#17

RSwordsman

Posted 14 November 2012 - 05:02 AM

I've taken exactly two months of programming, and could tell you that a seed is related to the computer's ability to generate random numbers. In the case of Minecraft, those numbers dictate how the world is created. It is a different world every time.

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Posted 14 November 2012 - 10:19 AM

Yes, some land is the same as some of the other land, but 0,0 is always different, so that means that each world is different.

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Posted 14 November 2012 - 10:58 AM

Well, that is actually quite smart idea. Minecraft multiversum hypothesis, Level I by Tegmark's classification. ;)

Every possible minecraft seed gives us one infinite world with spawning point. Given finite time player has opportunity to explore only limited and finite region of that infinite world (lets assume vanilla, teleporting is somewhat problematic). Lets call that region Bubble volume.
So, every seed generates infinite world and finite Bubble volume.

Can we say that if seed A generates one infinite world, this world contains region (possibly and probably outside seed A Bubble volume) which is identical to Bubble volume of any other seed?

I guess we can say that... Well, except strongholds, of course.

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Posted 14 November 2012 - 11:10 AM

This is impossible. 0,0,0 is different on each world so it cannot be the same world.

If it were to just move the coords and where strongholds generate then the corner of the world (where solid land stops generating)(well, one of the corners) would never be exactly at 30000000,0,30000000, which it always is.

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