Hello guys and gals. I know some of these have been suggested before; but as far as I have noticed, they have never been suggested like this. Without further ado, I introduce you to my idea to revamp both farming and brewing; adding layers and potentially fun to both! While I do have a TLDR Summary below, I much prefer that you read the entire post so that you will have a complete understanding of what I am proposing.
TLDR Summary: new fruits, veggies, mushrooms, and grains. All of which help with farming in one way or another. New potions made exclusively from the new herbs and Veggies, fruits, and mushrooms. New effects introduced to farming such as compost, ducks, and even crop rotation. A new method of mushroom farming; it is now possible to farm mushrooms in a cow pasture. A new boss is introduced for people who want to build their own apiary and start producing honey! Two new MOBs are introduced, the Goat, which is famous for its milk, and the duck, which waddles about your farm helping out.
CONTENTS:
I: Introduction and TLDR
II: Contents
III: Pictures
IV: Farming
a. New Plants
1) Veggies
2) Fruits
3a) Mushrooms
3b) Growing Mushrooms
4a) Cereal Grains
4b) Cereal Grain Uses
5) Herbs
b. Compost
1) Creation
2) Types
3) Uses
c. Bee Hives
1) Natural
2) Created
3) Relocating Bees
d. Livestock
1) Goats
2) Ducks
e. Speed Farming
1) Apiaries
2) Compost and Compost Mixes
3) Crop Rotations
4) Livestock
f. Gathering of New Seeds
1) Drop Rate from grown plants
2) Drop Rate from tilling
3) Enchanted Hoe
V: Brewing
a. Herbal Brews
1) Lemon Balm
2) Milk Thistle
3) Ginseng
b. Special Brews
1) Goat Milk
2) Honey
c. Brew of Enchantment
1) Mixing it up
2) What it’s for
d. Honey Meade
1) Mixing it up
2) What it’s for
e. Other Meads
PICTURES:
Apiary:
Honey Comb:
Jar of Bees:
Jar of Nectar:
Jar of Honey:
Empty Jar:
Crafting the Apiary:
Brown Mushroom (Bitter Compost I)
Red Spotted Mushroom (Bitter Compost II)
Indigo Mushroom (Bitter Compost III)
Golden Mushroom (Bitter Compost IV)
White Mushroom (Bitter Compost V)
3b) Growing Mushrooms:
Mushrooms do not grow in the same circumstances as regular crops. However, when you do manage to find one of the mushroom varieties in a cave, it is possible to grow them outside of caves. The only lighted area they will grow is where cows are within 10 blocks and can potentially come closer. (The mushrooms cannot be separated by a fence or anything that the cows cannot jump over.) In other words, you must grow your mushrooms inside of your cow stable. It isn’t required to light the area, but pouring bitter compost on them is required for them to grow. (e.g.: You must pour Bitter Compost IV or V on a White mushroom to allow it to grow and spread.) The oddity here is that you are able to plant the mushroom without the compost being applied to the ground; however, you must apply the compost to the mushroom itself in order for it to ever spread. Whereas, all other plants require that you spread the compost first before planting the seed. You cannot grow any mushroom higher than Red Spotted inside of a cave, even though they will naturally occur within them on occasion.
Note that Mushrooms can also be traded for from villagers and found in a chest in the kitchen on occasion.
4a) Cereal Grains:
Wheat
Rice
Corn
4b) Cereal Grain Uses:
Wheat still has the same uses, plus the creation of ‘meads’. Meads are a special type of food that provides bonuses while also filling hunger. If you drink meads while you are at full hunger, they provide a distortion to the screen but will still give the bonus.
Rice replaces Sugar cane in the creation of Paper.
Corn is used as an ‘organic’ crop booster. Just add it to compost and it will reduce the time for crops to grow by a small bit.
5) Herbs:
Milk Thistle – Grows in Bitter Compost V
Ginseng – Grows in Sweet Compost V
Lemon Balm – Grows in Sour Compost V
a. Compost:
1) Creation:
Compost is created in a compost bin. A compost bin is created by putting a chest in a crafting table with a pressure plate and a clock in no particular order. You fill the compost bin by right clicking it with veggies/fruits/mushrooms or compost in your hand. One of the items is used up per click. It takes four compostable materials to fill the compost bin. After one IGD (In game day) the compost is ready to be collected. It is collected using bowls and 3-7 compost is created per bin.
2) Types:
There are four types of compost: Sweet (Fruit), Sour (Veggies), Bitter (Mushrooms), and Super. Each of the first three types of compost has five levels of efficiency. When creating compost, the efficiency of the compost is determined by the lowest level of product used. If you mix two different types of compostable materials you will wind up with Bland Compost which can be used to reduce growing time for any type of crop of the same level equal to the lowest level of compostable material used. Super compost is created by mixing all three of the level five composts.
3) Uses:
Sweet Compost is used to grow the different types of fruits. Each level of compost is required to grow the next level of fruit. Sour compost is used to grow the different Veggies. Bitter compost is used to grow the different mushrooms. The same rules apply for each type of compost.
Bland compost is used simply to reduce the growing times of the lowest level crop used to create the compost. (e.g.: Tomatoes, Onions, and red spotted mushroom would be able to reduce growing times for red spotted mushrooms, Melons, and carrots. The Compost would be titled ‘Bland Compost II’)
Super compost is only used in brewing.
c. Bee Hives:
1) Natural:
Natural Bee hives occur only in forest biomes and only on the birch trees within them. The natural hives produce only bees and honey combs. Bees are collected using a net; which is made by crafting five stings in an X pattern. The honey comb is collected only with a stone or better axe. When the bees are collected (which must be done before the hive may be destroyed.) A black bear spawns within 16 squares and will attack you. Black bears in particular will chase you to the end of the world till you destroy them and drop a decent amount of EXP.
Black Bear: A boss MOB that defends bee hives from people intending to destroy/collect them.
2.5 Attack Power
25 Health Points
1 defense point
Black bears only occur upon collection of bees.
Bear: A MOB that occurs in Forest biomes. They spawn only during the day and are aggressive.
1.5 Attack Power
15 Health Points
0 defense points
2) Created:
Otherwise titled Apiaries; these are created with five wooden planks and two bee hives. The two beehives are the lower center of the crafting table. The five planks are in the shape of a house. Bees will only occupy an Apiary if you apply sugar water to it. After they’ve been christened with the sugary water, place flowers or begin growing crops within 10 squares of the apiary. Once done, right click a jar of bees on the new hive and it will begin producing nectar in three IGD. Every morning after there will be new nectar. In order to collect the nectar, you must get a jar of leaves and use flint and steel on it. The smoke will allow you to safely collect the nectar.
Each morning collection yields 1-2 full jars of nectar per morning collection. If nectar is not collected within 3 in game days, a jar of wax may be collected, as well as a single jar of nectar. When sugar is added to the nectar, it produces honey, which is used in brewing certain new potions named below.
Apart from wax and honey, bees also provide the grand service of speeding up plant growth within a radius of 10 blocks.
3) Relocating bees:
In the GUI opened when right clicking an active apiary; you will notice a scale at the top. This scale indicates how ‘full’ the apiary is of bees. The scale must be half full to yield honey daily. With a full scale, you may collect a jar of bees so as to relocate them to a new apiary. In order to collect a jar of bees, place a jar in the box under the scale. The other boxes will yield honey and wax respectively. In order to relocate the bees, you must place the bees in a new apiary and click the ‘board’ button on the GUI. When the morning comes on the third day, you may free the bees by clicking ‘open’ in the GUI. This will allow the bees to establish the new apiary as their home and begin producing nectar/wax.
Note that a full scale of bees does not speed up the production of honey nor wax, it simply allows you to more easily collect new bees for an apiary; otherwise it would require you to go out and find a new bee hive.
d. Livestock:
1) Goats:
Goats, like cows, produce milk, this is all they are good for. However, you might think ‘why do we need two types of milk?’ Well, simply put, Goats milk is a fantastic organic herbicide. By mixing Goats milk with Compost you can increase the yield in crops. The exact increase will be discussed in the ‘speed farming’ section.
2) Ducks:
Ducks are a grand addition to farming. If you have a farm with a pond, you can introduce ducks and have the perfect biological herbicide. Ducks will simply increase the yield of seeds. They also look cute waddling their way around the farm eating up the weeds and bugs off of your crops. The exact increase in yield will be discussed in the ‘speed farming’ section.
e. Speed Farming:
Note that the effect of Treated Compost and Duck Ponds will not stack in the traditional way. IOW: If you treat a crop with ‘Treated Super Compost’ and have a Duck Pond within 10 blocks, you don’t achieve an additional drop of 0-4 seeds; instead you receive an additional 0-3 seeds. If you use regular Treated compost and have a Duck Pond within 10 Blocks you receive 0-2 additional seeds. If the duck pond is within 20 blocks, however, you still receive the 0-2 seed boost, as 0-1 + 0-1 yields 0-2. While 0-2 + 0-2 yields 0-3.
1) Apiary:
Active apiaries will increase chances of crops to grow during an update by 10%. The effect does not stack if there are multiple apiaries.
2) Compost:
Bland Compost reduces the yield of a crop by 1-2 seeds.
Normal Compost has no effect on the growth of crops.
Treated (Goats Milk) Compost increases the yield of a crop by 0-1 seed.
Super Compost increases the yield of a crop by 0-1 seed.
Treated (Goats Milk) Super Compost increases the yield of a crop by 0-2 seeds.
3) Livestock:
A duck pond within 20 blocks of the crop increases seed yield for the crops by 0-1 seed.
A duck pond within 10 blocks of the crop increases seed yield for the crops by 0-2 seeds.
4) Crop Rotation:
Rotating which type (Veggies, Fruits, and Cereals) of crop you grow on a block each time increases the chances of crops to grow during an update by 5%.
Not rotating which type (Veggies, Fruits, and Cereals) of crop you grow on a block each time decreases the chances of crops to grow during an update by 5%.
f. Gathering of New Seeds:
1) Drop Rate from grown plants:
Level V crops actually drop -1 seeds, but since you can’t possibly drop negative seeds, they drop 0. The effect of the -1 is noticed only when you have a duck pond or you treat your level V crops with Treated Super Compost. As these are the only times that you can see Radish seeds and Dragon fruit seeds drop from their respective crops. The same goes for all three Herbs. If you have both a duck pond within 10 spaces and you treat your level 5 crop or herb, you have a 50% chance for 0 seeds to drop, 25% for 1, and 25% for 2.
Note that the percent chance for it to drop from tilling the ground is only for grass blocks. Also note that it is possible to get every type of seed in a single till, just unlikely.
3) Enchanted Hoe:
With a special potion, you can level up your enchantment table to be able to enchant hoes and potentially other tools yet to be decided. So far, I only have an idea for the hoe.
Seed Finder (I, II, III)
Seed Finder I increases the chance of finding every type of seed by 5%, except for wheat.
Seed Finder II increases the chance of finding level II seeds and better by 5% more than Seed Finder I.
Seed Finder III increases the chance of finding level III seeds and better by 5% more than Seed Finder II.
With Seed Finder III factored in, this is what the drop rates look like for tilling:
Wheat: 0% chance (obtained from grass still)
Rice: 60% chance (considered as level II)
Corn: 20% chance (considered as level III)
Lemon Balm: 20% chance (considered as level V)
Milk Thistle: 20% chance (considered as level V)
Ginseng: 20% chance (considered as level V)
BREWING:
a. Herbal Brews:
1) Lemon Balm:
Lemon Balm Brews are made with Veggies.
Potatoes: Eye of the Spud Potion - Gives increased seed yield for all materials harvested while potion is in effect. Increases max yield for all seeds by 1.
Goats Milk: Increases max yield by 2.
Honey: Increases duration.
Carrots: Positive Situation Potion - Negates all negative effects either in the radius of the blast potion or for the drinker. It will add 1 hunger point if dying of hunger.
Goats Milk: Adds 2 hunger points.
Honey: it makes it impossible to obtain a negative effect (other than drunkenness) for a limited duration.
Broccoli: Wet Fuse Potion - When used against a creeper causes them to have a longer time to detonate. If used on a person, it slows their healing process. If used on a poisoned person, it speeds up the effect of poisoning.
Goats Milk: Weakens the explosive damage. Slows healing and speeds up poisoning even further.
Honey: Increases duration.
Onions: Puppy chow - when using it on a bone, allows guaranteed taming of wolves. As a blast potion, it heals all wolves/dogs/zombies in the radius.
Goats Milk: Drinking attracts wolves to you. Blast potion makes wolves/dogs/zombies immune to fall damage temporarily.
Honey: Only effects blast potion. It allows Wolves/dogs/zombies to automatically heal over time for a limited duration.
Radishes: Catnip - Allows for instant taming of ocelots when poured on the fish that you feed them.
Goats Milk: Allows you to choose fur type of cat if used on cat. If used as blast potion, Ocelots are attracted to the area if they are within 50 blocks in any direction.
Honey: Gives a one-time longer window for feeding of a cat before it reverts.
2) Milk Thistle:
Milk Thistle Brews are made with Mushrooms.
Brown Mushroom: Gill Potion - While in effect under water, your bubbles take much longer to deplete.
Goats Milk: Bubbles don’t deplete at all.
Honey: Effect lasts longer.
Red Spotted: Drain Potion - Damage you do to others heals you partially.
Goats Milk: More health is healed.
Honey: Effect lasts longer.
Indigo: Purple Power – Allows for possibility of random critical hits; Adds a chance of failure for critical hits to land on you.
Goats Milk: Increases chance all around.
Honey: Effect lasts longer.
Golden: Drugged Potion - Causes a drunken effect, double vision, things appear skewed and either further or closer. If drank, it will also heal all of your hearts as well regardless of hunger.
Goats Milk: Heals all hearts and all hunger.
Honey: Simply causes drunken effect to last longer.
White: Shield Potion - Increases the amount of damage you can take by turning some of your hearts blue. The effect lasts until you take damage and lose all the hearts. They will not be healed back.
Goats Milk: Turns all hearts blue.
Honey: Allows for Heart Shield healing for a limited time.
3) Ginseng:
Ginseng Brews are made with Fruits.
Blueberries: Swift Rapids - Provides faster sea travel for a limited duration
Goats Milk: Travel is even faster.
Honey: Effect lasts longer.
Strawberries: Hot shot potion - Allows for a longer zoom when shooting with the bow for a short time.
Goats Milk: Zooms in further.
Honey: Effect lasts longer.
Pineapple: High Strung Potion - Allows for shooting of two arrows at once for a short time.
Goats Milk: Shoots three arrows at once.
Honey: Effect lasts longer.
Blackberries: Double Jump Potion - Allows you a certain amount of time with the ability to jump once in midair. This would also allow for softer landings from tall places.
Goats Milk: Allows for a third jump, allowing easy passage over 2 high blocks and potential passage of 3 high blocks.
Honey: Effect lasts longer.
Dragon fruit: Invisibility Potion - Makes it so aggressive mobs can’t see you until you attack them or sprint by them.
Goats Milk: Mobs can’t even see you if you are sprinting.
Honey: Effect lasts longer.
b. Special Brews:
Note that these Brews cannot be combined with Redstone or Glowstone. They may only have Gunpowder added to make them into blast potions.
1) Goat Milk:
If you make the new Brews using bottles of Goats milk instead of water, you will wind up with ‘stronger’ effects.
2) Honey:
If you make the new Brews using bottles of Honey instead of water, you will wind up with ‘longer’ effects.
c. Brew of Enchantment:
1) mixing it up:
A Goats milk potion with honey brewed in followed by Lemon Balm, Ginseng, and Milk Thistle.
2) What it’s for:
When crafting an enchantment table, by putting a Brew of Enchantment on either side of the book, you create a level II Enchantment table, which can be used to enchant Hoes and potentially other tools.
d. Honey Meade:
1) Mixing it up:
By filling a cauldron with honey and then adding three tufts of wheat to the cauldron, you can have honey mead brewed up in 10 IGDs. Each cauldron makes two Jar fulls.
2) What it’s for:
Honey Meade is a special food that fills 10 hunger points as it takes an exceptionally long time to ferment. It comes in stacks of 32 at max. Honey Meade provides no bonus.
e. Other Meads:
In order to concoct other meads, just fill a cauldron with water, then add wheat, then add your fruit of choice. Each of the following meads adds 4 hunger points and come in maximum stacks of 1.
Blueberry Meade: Walk Faster
Strawberry Meade: Run Farther
Pineapple Meade: Jump higher (ability to jump over fences)
Blackberry Meade: Gather materials underwater faster.
Dragon Fruit Meade: Completely fill saturation.
this looks cool. a nice mod it would make. it was so long my eyes died from looking at it. have pics of the things in the world.idk how to, maybe retexture a block?
I support this idea, however, I do kind of think that this one should be a mod instead of vanilla. Solely for the reason that it is rather large and complex. Still, a +1 for you. =)
I appreciate the support, guys. Does anybody have any guides they can suggest that are good for people who have never done coding/modding before to be able to mod minecraft?
Or does anybody have Modding skills and would like to collaborate or instruct me?
COMPOST CRITICISM
The multiple composts seems unrealistic and unnecessary. Also, the "flavors" are plain ridiculous. For one, most of those vegetables are not sour at all. Those that are sour are not sour in the way we perceive sour. And mushrooms are not bitter. At worst, they are blend, at best, they are savory. The sheer amount of composts just makes everything worse.
"MEAD" CRITICISM
The plural of "mead" is "mead", not "meads". Mead is an alcoholic beverage made from honey and water fermented with yeast, as any mead enthusiast or norselander will tell you. It does not require Wheat, though some who like a wheaty flavor in their alcohol (for the same reason that some prefer Wheat Beer over Barley Beer) will want it. Even then, the main ingredient is always honey above all else. Also, it isn't "meade" either. "Meade" doesn't even exist. And mead that could even be classified as mead never uses fruit.
BEAR CRITICISM
Bears are notorious for indiscriminately breaking open beehives and eating all the immature bees and honey inside, and the idea of mobs protecting a small resource block sounds eerily non-Minecraft like.
CROP ROTATION CRITICISM
In Minecraft, there is no such thing as fertility. Just a standard dirt. Since there is no such thing as soil nutrients, crop rotation becomes redundant. It's fairly worthless for gameplay use, because it doesn't seem very fun.
RICE PAPER CRITICISM
No. The only paper rice makes is a fragile, edible, thin sheet that is fairly useless unless you need it to be edible. There is another paper that works fine that is also called rice paper, but it doesn't come from rice. At all. It's counter-intuitive and would devalue sugar cane greatly (seeing as sugar is rarely ever used for anything).
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It's hard criticizing ideas when one is tired, so you'd better appreciate it when I criticize yours.
COMPOST CRITICISM
The multiple composts seems unrealistic and unnecessary. Also, the "flavors" are plain ridiculous. For one, most of those vegetables are not sour at all. Those that are sour are not sour in the way we perceive sour. And mushrooms are not bitter. At worst, they are blend, at best, they are savory. The sheer amount of composts just makes everything worse.
"MEAD" CRITICISM
The plural of "mead" is "mead", not "meads". Mead is an alcoholic beverage made from honey and water fermented with yeast, as any mead enthusiast or norselander will tell you. It does not require Wheat, though some who like a wheaty flavor in their alcohol (for the same reason that some prefer Wheat Beer over Barley Beer) will want it. Even then, the main ingredient is always honey above all else. Also, it isn't "meade" either. "Meade" doesn't even exist. And mead that could even be classified as mead never uses fruit.
BEAR CRITICISM
Bears are notorious for indiscriminately breaking open beehives and eating all the immature bees and honey inside, and the idea of mobs protecting a small resource block sounds eerily non-Minecraft like.
CROP ROTATION CRITICISM
In Minecraft, there is no such thing as fertility. Just a standard dirt. Since there is no such thing as soil nutrients, crop rotation becomes redundant. It's fairly worthless for gameplay use, because it doesn't seem very fun.
RICE PAPER CRITICISM
No. The only paper rice makes is a fragile, edible, thin sheet that is fairly useless unless you need it to be edible. There is another paper that works fine that is also called rice paper, but it doesn't come from rice. At all. It's counter-intuitive and would devalue sugar cane greatly (seeing as sugar is rarely ever used for anything).
I appreciate your criticism, JakeVon. I will definitely take it into consideration for updating my suggestion.
I also apologize for the gramatical error with mead and the realistic flavoring error with composts. I will update the post in a day or so and I look forward to further criticism as well as helpful comments.
By the way, could you point out some things that you did like and what made them likeable for you, since you didn't comment on the entirety of my idea?
What to update:
Make mead created from Honey and wheat only.
Remove crop rotation. Perhaps come up with an alternative to improve farming speeds, will consider.
Remove rice entirely.
Update Bears description and behavior.
Look up and update composts based on the flavors of each vegetable as well as mushrooms.
Again, I ask everybody to please post any suggestions for good modding tutorials, as I have no knowledge of Java and/or modding.
I thbink that the bears should also drops maybe have a 50% chance it drops nothing a 30% chance it will drop a bear pelt (used for fur armour) a 15% chance of dropping a fish and a 15% chance it will drop bear claws (used for bear daggers which have a horrible durability but do 10% more damage on bears than an iron sword)
I do enjoy the idea of pelt armors, perhaps for reinforcing leather, I will consider it, not going to make a promise on updating it into the suggestion as of yet though. Thank you for the ideas, though, much appreciated.
I appreciate your criticism, JakeVon. I will definitely take it into consideration for updating my suggestion.
I also apologize for the gramatical error with mead and the realistic flavoring error with composts. I will update the post in a day or so and I look forward to further criticism as well as helpful comments.
By the way, could you point out some things that you did like and what made them likeable for you, since you didn't comment on the entirety of my idea?
Thank you for being so tolerant of my criticism. Very few are so willing to accept harsh words without backlashing.
I do like the idea of Apiaries, but I suggest simplifying and streamlining the idea. For example, instead of producing Jars of Wax and Jars of Nectars, it could produce a single product, such as Honeycombs, which are then refined in a similar manner to Sugar Cane (Any singular Honeycomb would produce Honey, whereas multiple arranged in a pattern would produce an equivalent amount of Beeswax).
Also, the rate at which the bees produce honeycombs could be influenced positively by the number of flowers in the area, and negatively by the number of other Apiaries in close proximity. This would mean that instead of simply producing material at a constant rate regardless of habituation, they could flourish in the kinds of environments that real-life bees would flourish in.
On the subject of Rice, I don't think it should be removed. Rice has a lot of other potentials, allowing it to be unique even with other grains competing for the spotlight.
On the other hand, the other agriculture could be rethought. (That's... quite a few kinds of berries. What about other fruits like tomatoes?)
I did think about tomatoes and other fruits, but when I started doing more research I realized that there aren't very many fruits that grow on an actual plant. Tomatoes grow on vines. I was actually thinking of adding in grapes and tomatoes then I realized that vines and trees were not a good idea for 'farming'.
As for taking kindly to your criticism, I enjoy constructive criticism. It's the criticism that is just 'your idea plain sucks. you suck.' that I don't like. So, thank YOU. And I will take tomatoes into mind, however, I will be keeping compost, I will just switch it around. and the apiaries, I will definitely consider your suggestions, but after realizing that other people have suggested different forms of bees etc. I want to stray from their ideas for it so as to have my own idea and keep the whole thread a little safer by not having 'overly suggested' stuff.
TLDR Summary: new fruits, veggies, mushrooms, and grains. All of which help with farming in one way or another. New potions made exclusively from the new herbs and Veggies, fruits, and mushrooms. New effects introduced to farming such as compost, ducks, and even crop rotation. A new method of mushroom farming; it is now possible to farm mushrooms in a cow pasture. A new boss is introduced for people who want to build their own apiary and start producing honey! Two new MOBs are introduced, the Goat, which is famous for its milk, and the duck, which waddles about your farm helping out.
CONTENTS:
I: Introduction and TLDR
II: Contents
III: Pictures
IV: Farming
a. New Plants
1) Veggies
2) Fruits
3a) Mushrooms
3b) Growing Mushrooms
4a) Cereal Grains
4b) Cereal Grain Uses
5) Herbs
b. Compost
1) Creation
2) Types
3) Uses
c. Bee Hives
1) Natural
2) Created
3) Relocating Bees
d. Livestock
1) Goats
2) Ducks
e. Speed Farming
1) Apiaries
2) Compost and Compost Mixes
3) Crop Rotations
4) Livestock
f. Gathering of New Seeds
1) Drop Rate from grown plants
2) Drop Rate from tilling
3) Enchanted Hoe
V: Brewing
a. Herbal Brews
1) Lemon Balm
2) Milk Thistle
3) Ginseng
b. Special Brews
1) Goat Milk
2) Honey
c. Brew of Enchantment
1) Mixing it up
2) What it’s for
d. Honey Meade
1) Mixing it up
2) What it’s for
e. Other Meads
PICTURES:
Apiary:
Honey Comb:
Jar of Bees:
Jar of Nectar:
Jar of Honey:
Empty Jar:
Crafting the Apiary:
FARMING:
a. New Plants:
1) Veggies:
Potatoes (Sour Compost I)
Carrots (Sour Compost II)
Broccoli (Sour Compost III)
Onions (Sour Compost IV)
Radishes (Sour Compost V)
2) Fruits:
Blueberries (Sweet Compost I)
Strawberries (Sweet Compost II)
Pineapple (Sweet Compost III)
Blackberries (Sweet Compost IV)
Dragon Fruit (Sweet Compost V)
3a) Mushrooms:
Brown Mushroom (Bitter Compost I)
Red Spotted Mushroom (Bitter Compost II)
Indigo Mushroom (Bitter Compost III)
Golden Mushroom (Bitter Compost IV)
White Mushroom (Bitter Compost V)
3b) Growing Mushrooms:
Mushrooms do not grow in the same circumstances as regular crops. However, when you do manage to find one of the mushroom varieties in a cave, it is possible to grow them outside of caves. The only lighted area they will grow is where cows are within 10 blocks and can potentially come closer. (The mushrooms cannot be separated by a fence or anything that the cows cannot jump over.) In other words, you must grow your mushrooms inside of your cow stable. It isn’t required to light the area, but pouring bitter compost on them is required for them to grow. (e.g.: You must pour Bitter Compost IV or V on a White mushroom to allow it to grow and spread.) The oddity here is that you are able to plant the mushroom without the compost being applied to the ground; however, you must apply the compost to the mushroom itself in order for it to ever spread. Whereas, all other plants require that you spread the compost first before planting the seed. You cannot grow any mushroom higher than Red Spotted inside of a cave, even though they will naturally occur within them on occasion.
Note that Mushrooms can also be traded for from villagers and found in a chest in the kitchen on occasion.
4a) Cereal Grains:
Wheat
Rice
Corn
4b) Cereal Grain Uses:
Wheat still has the same uses, plus the creation of ‘meads’. Meads are a special type of food that provides bonuses while also filling hunger. If you drink meads while you are at full hunger, they provide a distortion to the screen but will still give the bonus.
Rice replaces Sugar cane in the creation of Paper.
Corn is used as an ‘organic’ crop booster. Just add it to compost and it will reduce the time for crops to grow by a small bit.
5) Herbs:
Milk Thistle – Grows in Bitter Compost V
Ginseng – Grows in Sweet Compost V
Lemon Balm – Grows in Sour Compost V
a. Compost:
1) Creation:
Compost is created in a compost bin. A compost bin is created by putting a chest in a crafting table with a pressure plate and a clock in no particular order. You fill the compost bin by right clicking it with veggies/fruits/mushrooms or compost in your hand. One of the items is used up per click. It takes four compostable materials to fill the compost bin. After one IGD (In game day) the compost is ready to be collected. It is collected using bowls and 3-7 compost is created per bin.
2) Types:
There are four types of compost: Sweet (Fruit), Sour (Veggies), Bitter (Mushrooms), and Super. Each of the first three types of compost has five levels of efficiency. When creating compost, the efficiency of the compost is determined by the lowest level of product used. If you mix two different types of compostable materials you will wind up with Bland Compost which can be used to reduce growing time for any type of crop of the same level equal to the lowest level of compostable material used. Super compost is created by mixing all three of the level five composts.
3) Uses:
Sweet Compost is used to grow the different types of fruits. Each level of compost is required to grow the next level of fruit. Sour compost is used to grow the different Veggies. Bitter compost is used to grow the different mushrooms. The same rules apply for each type of compost.
Bland compost is used simply to reduce the growing times of the lowest level crop used to create the compost. (e.g.: Tomatoes, Onions, and red spotted mushroom would be able to reduce growing times for red spotted mushrooms, Melons, and carrots. The Compost would be titled ‘Bland Compost II’)
Super compost is only used in brewing.
c. Bee Hives:
1) Natural:
Natural Bee hives occur only in forest biomes and only on the birch trees within them. The natural hives produce only bees and honey combs. Bees are collected using a net; which is made by crafting five stings in an X pattern. The honey comb is collected only with a stone or better axe. When the bees are collected (which must be done before the hive may be destroyed.) A black bear spawns within 16 squares and will attack you. Black bears in particular will chase you to the end of the world till you destroy them and drop a decent amount of EXP.
Black Bear: A boss MOB that defends bee hives from people intending to destroy/collect them.
2.5 Attack Power
25 Health Points
1 defense point
Black bears only occur upon collection of bees.
Bear: A MOB that occurs in Forest biomes. They spawn only during the day and are aggressive.
1.5 Attack Power
15 Health Points
0 defense points
2) Created:
Otherwise titled Apiaries; these are created with five wooden planks and two bee hives. The two beehives are the lower center of the crafting table. The five planks are in the shape of a house. Bees will only occupy an Apiary if you apply sugar water to it. After they’ve been christened with the sugary water, place flowers or begin growing crops within 10 squares of the apiary. Once done, right click a jar of bees on the new hive and it will begin producing nectar in three IGD. Every morning after there will be new nectar. In order to collect the nectar, you must get a jar of leaves and use flint and steel on it. The smoke will allow you to safely collect the nectar.
Each morning collection yields 1-2 full jars of nectar per morning collection. If nectar is not collected within 3 in game days, a jar of wax may be collected, as well as a single jar of nectar. When sugar is added to the nectar, it produces honey, which is used in brewing certain new potions named below.
Apart from wax and honey, bees also provide the grand service of speeding up plant growth within a radius of 10 blocks.
3) Relocating bees:
In the GUI opened when right clicking an active apiary; you will notice a scale at the top. This scale indicates how ‘full’ the apiary is of bees. The scale must be half full to yield honey daily. With a full scale, you may collect a jar of bees so as to relocate them to a new apiary. In order to collect a jar of bees, place a jar in the box under the scale. The other boxes will yield honey and wax respectively. In order to relocate the bees, you must place the bees in a new apiary and click the ‘board’ button on the GUI. When the morning comes on the third day, you may free the bees by clicking ‘open’ in the GUI. This will allow the bees to establish the new apiary as their home and begin producing nectar/wax.
Note that a full scale of bees does not speed up the production of honey nor wax, it simply allows you to more easily collect new bees for an apiary; otherwise it would require you to go out and find a new bee hive.
d. Livestock:
1) Goats:
Goats, like cows, produce milk, this is all they are good for. However, you might think ‘why do we need two types of milk?’ Well, simply put, Goats milk is a fantastic organic herbicide. By mixing Goats milk with Compost you can increase the yield in crops. The exact increase will be discussed in the ‘speed farming’ section.
2) Ducks:
Ducks are a grand addition to farming. If you have a farm with a pond, you can introduce ducks and have the perfect biological herbicide. Ducks will simply increase the yield of seeds. They also look cute waddling their way around the farm eating up the weeds and bugs off of your crops. The exact increase in yield will be discussed in the ‘speed farming’ section.
e. Speed Farming:
Note that the effect of Treated Compost and Duck Ponds will not stack in the traditional way. IOW: If you treat a crop with ‘Treated Super Compost’ and have a Duck Pond within 10 blocks, you don’t achieve an additional drop of 0-4 seeds; instead you receive an additional 0-3 seeds. If you use regular Treated compost and have a Duck Pond within 10 Blocks you receive 0-2 additional seeds. If the duck pond is within 20 blocks, however, you still receive the 0-2 seed boost, as 0-1 + 0-1 yields 0-2. While 0-2 + 0-2 yields 0-3.
1) Apiary:
Active apiaries will increase chances of crops to grow during an update by 10%. The effect does not stack if there are multiple apiaries.
2) Compost:
Bland Compost reduces the yield of a crop by 1-2 seeds.
Normal Compost has no effect on the growth of crops.
Treated (Goats Milk) Compost increases the yield of a crop by 0-1 seed.
Super Compost increases the yield of a crop by 0-1 seed.
Treated (Goats Milk) Super Compost increases the yield of a crop by 0-2 seeds.
3) Livestock:
A duck pond within 20 blocks of the crop increases seed yield for the crops by 0-1 seed.
A duck pond within 10 blocks of the crop increases seed yield for the crops by 0-2 seeds.
4) Crop Rotation:
Rotating which type (Veggies, Fruits, and Cereals) of crop you grow on a block each time increases the chances of crops to grow during an update by 5%.
Not rotating which type (Veggies, Fruits, and Cereals) of crop you grow on a block each time decreases the chances of crops to grow during an update by 5%.
f. Gathering of New Seeds:
1) Drop Rate from grown plants:
Level V crops actually drop -1 seeds, but since you can’t possibly drop negative seeds, they drop 0. The effect of the -1 is noticed only when you have a duck pond or you treat your level V crops with Treated Super Compost. As these are the only times that you can see Radish seeds and Dragon fruit seeds drop from their respective crops. The same goes for all three Herbs. If you have both a duck pond within 10 spaces and you treat your level 5 crop or herb, you have a 50% chance for 0 seeds to drop, 25% for 1, and 25% for 2.
Potatoes: 0-4 seeds
Carrots: 0-3 seeds
Broccoli: 0-2 seeds
Onions: 0-1 seeds
Radishes: 0 seeds
Blueberries: 0-4 seeds
Strawberries: 0-3 seeds
Pineapple: 0-2 seeds
Blackberries: 0-1 seeds
Dragon fruit: 0 seeds
Wheat: 0-3 seeds
Rice: 0-5 seeds
Corn: 0-2 seeds
Lemon Balm: 0 seeds
Milk Thistle: 0 seeds
Ginseng: 0 seeds
2) Drop Rate from tilling:
Potatoes: 25% chance
Carrots: 20% chance
Broccoli: 15% chance
Onions: 10% chance
Radishes: 5% chance
Blueberries: 25% chance
Strawberries: 20% chance
Pineapple: 15% chance
Blackberries: 10% chance
Dragon fruit: 5% chance
Wheat: 0% chance (obtained from grass still)
Rice: 50% chance
Corn: 5% chance
Lemon Balm: 5% chance
Milk Thistle: 5% chance
Ginseng: 5% chance
Note that the percent chance for it to drop from tilling the ground is only for grass blocks. Also note that it is possible to get every type of seed in a single till, just unlikely.
3) Enchanted Hoe:
With a special potion, you can level up your enchantment table to be able to enchant hoes and potentially other tools yet to be decided. So far, I only have an idea for the hoe.
Seed Finder (I, II, III)
Seed Finder I increases the chance of finding every type of seed by 5%, except for wheat.
Seed Finder II increases the chance of finding level II seeds and better by 5% more than Seed Finder I.
Seed Finder III increases the chance of finding level III seeds and better by 5% more than Seed Finder II.
With Seed Finder III factored in, this is what the drop rates look like for tilling:
Potatoes: 30% chance
Carrots: 30% chance
Broccoli: 30% chance
Onions: 25% chance
Radishes: 20% chance
Blueberries: 30% chance
Strawberries: 30% chance
Pineapple: 30% chance
Blackberries: 25% chance
Dragon fruit: 20% chance
Wheat: 0% chance (obtained from grass still)
Rice: 60% chance (considered as level II)
Corn: 20% chance (considered as level III)
Lemon Balm: 20% chance (considered as level V)
Milk Thistle: 20% chance (considered as level V)
Ginseng: 20% chance (considered as level V)
BREWING:
a. Herbal Brews:
1) Lemon Balm:
Lemon Balm Brews are made with Veggies.
Potatoes: Eye of the Spud Potion - Gives increased seed yield for all materials harvested while potion is in effect. Increases max yield for all seeds by 1.
Goats Milk: Increases max yield by 2.
Honey: Increases duration.
Carrots: Positive Situation Potion - Negates all negative effects either in the radius of the blast potion or for the drinker. It will add 1 hunger point if dying of hunger.
Goats Milk: Adds 2 hunger points.
Honey: it makes it impossible to obtain a negative effect (other than drunkenness) for a limited duration.
Broccoli: Wet Fuse Potion - When used against a creeper causes them to have a longer time to detonate. If used on a person, it slows their healing process. If used on a poisoned person, it speeds up the effect of poisoning.
Goats Milk: Weakens the explosive damage. Slows healing and speeds up poisoning even further.
Honey: Increases duration.
Onions: Puppy chow - when using it on a bone, allows guaranteed taming of wolves. As a blast potion, it heals all wolves/dogs/zombies in the radius.
Goats Milk: Drinking attracts wolves to you. Blast potion makes wolves/dogs/zombies immune to fall damage temporarily.
Honey: Only effects blast potion. It allows Wolves/dogs/zombies to automatically heal over time for a limited duration.
Radishes: Catnip - Allows for instant taming of ocelots when poured on the fish that you feed them.
Goats Milk: Allows you to choose fur type of cat if used on cat. If used as blast potion, Ocelots are attracted to the area if they are within 50 blocks in any direction.
Honey: Gives a one-time longer window for feeding of a cat before it reverts.
2) Milk Thistle:
Milk Thistle Brews are made with Mushrooms.
Brown Mushroom: Gill Potion - While in effect under water, your bubbles take much longer to deplete.
Goats Milk: Bubbles don’t deplete at all.
Honey: Effect lasts longer.
Red Spotted: Drain Potion - Damage you do to others heals you partially.
Goats Milk: More health is healed.
Honey: Effect lasts longer.
Indigo: Purple Power – Allows for possibility of random critical hits; Adds a chance of failure for critical hits to land on you.
Goats Milk: Increases chance all around.
Honey: Effect lasts longer.
Golden: Drugged Potion - Causes a drunken effect, double vision, things appear skewed and either further or closer. If drank, it will also heal all of your hearts as well regardless of hunger.
Goats Milk: Heals all hearts and all hunger.
Honey: Simply causes drunken effect to last longer.
White: Shield Potion - Increases the amount of damage you can take by turning some of your hearts blue. The effect lasts until you take damage and lose all the hearts. They will not be healed back.
Goats Milk: Turns all hearts blue.
Honey: Allows for Heart Shield healing for a limited time.
3) Ginseng:
Ginseng Brews are made with Fruits.
Blueberries: Swift Rapids - Provides faster sea travel for a limited duration
Goats Milk: Travel is even faster.
Honey: Effect lasts longer.
Strawberries: Hot shot potion - Allows for a longer zoom when shooting with the bow for a short time.
Goats Milk: Zooms in further.
Honey: Effect lasts longer.
Pineapple: High Strung Potion - Allows for shooting of two arrows at once for a short time.
Goats Milk: Shoots three arrows at once.
Honey: Effect lasts longer.
Blackberries: Double Jump Potion - Allows you a certain amount of time with the ability to jump once in midair. This would also allow for softer landings from tall places.
Goats Milk: Allows for a third jump, allowing easy passage over 2 high blocks and potential passage of 3 high blocks.
Honey: Effect lasts longer.
Dragon fruit: Invisibility Potion - Makes it so aggressive mobs can’t see you until you attack them or sprint by them.
Goats Milk: Mobs can’t even see you if you are sprinting.
Honey: Effect lasts longer.
b. Special Brews:
Note that these Brews cannot be combined with Redstone or Glowstone. They may only have Gunpowder added to make them into blast potions.
1) Goat Milk:
If you make the new Brews using bottles of Goats milk instead of water, you will wind up with ‘stronger’ effects.
2) Honey:
If you make the new Brews using bottles of Honey instead of water, you will wind up with ‘longer’ effects.
c. Brew of Enchantment:
1) mixing it up:
A Goats milk potion with honey brewed in followed by Lemon Balm, Ginseng, and Milk Thistle.
2) What it’s for:
When crafting an enchantment table, by putting a Brew of Enchantment on either side of the book, you create a level II Enchantment table, which can be used to enchant Hoes and potentially other tools.
d. Honey Meade:
1) Mixing it up:
By filling a cauldron with honey and then adding three tufts of wheat to the cauldron, you can have honey mead brewed up in 10 IGDs. Each cauldron makes two Jar fulls.
2) What it’s for:
Honey Meade is a special food that fills 10 hunger points as it takes an exceptionally long time to ferment. It comes in stacks of 32 at max. Honey Meade provides no bonus.
e. Other Meads:
In order to concoct other meads, just fill a cauldron with water, then add wheat, then add your fruit of choice. Each of the following meads adds 4 hunger points and come in maximum stacks of 1.
Blueberry Meade: Walk Faster
Strawberry Meade: Run Farther
Pineapple Meade: Jump higher (ability to jump over fences)
Blackberry Meade: Gather materials underwater faster.
Dragon Fruit Meade: Completely fill saturation.
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COMPOST CRITICISM
The multiple composts seems unrealistic and unnecessary. Also, the "flavors" are plain ridiculous. For one, most of those vegetables are not sour at all. Those that are sour are not sour in the way we perceive sour. And mushrooms are not bitter. At worst, they are blend, at best, they are savory. The sheer amount of composts just makes everything worse.
"MEAD" CRITICISM
The plural of "mead" is "mead", not "meads". Mead is an alcoholic beverage made from honey and water fermented with yeast, as any mead enthusiast or norselander will tell you. It does not require Wheat, though some who like a wheaty flavor in their alcohol (for the same reason that some prefer Wheat Beer over Barley Beer) will want it. Even then, the main ingredient is always honey above all else. Also, it isn't "meade" either. "Meade" doesn't even exist. And mead that could even be classified as mead never uses fruit.
BEAR CRITICISM
Bears are notorious for indiscriminately breaking open beehives and eating all the immature bees and honey inside, and the idea of mobs protecting a small resource block sounds eerily non-Minecraft like.
CROP ROTATION CRITICISM
In Minecraft, there is no such thing as fertility. Just a standard dirt. Since there is no such thing as soil nutrients, crop rotation becomes redundant. It's fairly worthless for gameplay use, because it doesn't seem very fun.
RICE PAPER CRITICISM
No. The only paper rice makes is a fragile, edible, thin sheet that is fairly useless unless you need it to be edible. There is another paper that works fine that is also called rice paper, but it doesn't come from rice. At all. It's counter-intuitive and would devalue sugar cane greatly (seeing as sugar is rarely ever used for anything).
I appreciate your criticism, JakeVon. I will definitely take it into consideration for updating my suggestion.
I also apologize for the gramatical error with mead and the realistic flavoring error with composts. I will update the post in a day or so and I look forward to further criticism as well as helpful comments.
By the way, could you point out some things that you did like and what made them likeable for you, since you didn't comment on the entirety of my idea?
What to update:
Make mead created from Honey and wheat only.
Remove crop rotation. Perhaps come up with an alternative to improve farming speeds, will consider.
Remove rice entirely.
Update Bears description and behavior.
Look up and update composts based on the flavors of each vegetable as well as mushrooms.
Again, I ask everybody to please post any suggestions for good modding tutorials, as I have no knowledge of Java and/or modding.
My mega long suggestion for Brewing & Farming!
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Thank you for being so tolerant of my criticism. Very few are so willing to accept harsh words without backlashing.
I do like the idea of Apiaries, but I suggest simplifying and streamlining the idea. For example, instead of producing Jars of Wax and Jars of Nectars, it could produce a single product, such as Honeycombs, which are then refined in a similar manner to Sugar Cane (Any singular Honeycomb would produce Honey, whereas multiple arranged in a pattern would produce an equivalent amount of Beeswax).
Also, the rate at which the bees produce honeycombs could be influenced positively by the number of flowers in the area, and negatively by the number of other Apiaries in close proximity. This would mean that instead of simply producing material at a constant rate regardless of habituation, they could flourish in the kinds of environments that real-life bees would flourish in.
On the subject of Rice, I don't think it should be removed. Rice has a lot of other potentials, allowing it to be unique even with other grains competing for the spotlight.
On the other hand, the other agriculture could be rethought. (That's... quite a few kinds of berries. What about other fruits like tomatoes?)
As for taking kindly to your criticism, I enjoy constructive criticism. It's the criticism that is just 'your idea plain sucks. you suck.' that I don't like. So, thank YOU. And I will take tomatoes into mind, however, I will be keeping compost, I will just switch it around. and the apiaries, I will definitely consider your suggestions, but after realizing that other people have suggested different forms of bees etc. I want to stray from their ideas for it so as to have my own idea and keep the whole thread a little safer by not having 'overly suggested' stuff.
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