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#1

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Posted 18 October 2012 - 10:19 PM

I was on Papercraft recently and I saw a printout for a baby zombie pigman. The people commenting on it said they never saw one, but one guy said they were added in the snapshot with regular baby zombies (the infected villager ones). I'm not sure if he was lying, or if somehow I must've missed it. Has anyone seen or heard of a baby zombie pigman?
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Posted 18 October 2012 - 11:20 PM

It is possible, I've seen it myself.

Zombie Pigmen are derived directly from Zombies (from a programming point of view) so, like Zombies, it is possible to spawn Baby Pig Zombies. Custom spawner data or an NBT editor will do it.
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#3

doctorcweed

Posted 18 October 2012 - 11:37 PM

They are in the gamecode, but don't spawn. Same with baby zombies. (not the villager kind.)
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#4

spiderraptor42

Posted 18 October 2012 - 11:59 PM

View Postcadika_orade, on 18 October 2012 - 11:20 PM, said:

It is possible, I've seen it myself.

Zombie Pigmen are derived directly from Zombies (from a programming point of view) so, like Zombies, it is possible to spawn Baby Pig Zombies. Custom spawner data or an NBT editor will do it.
Baby skeletons? wither skeletons? enderdragons? baby baby pigs? endermen? squids? silverfish?

Please respond!
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Posted 19 October 2012 - 12:08 AM

View Postspiderraptor42, on 18 October 2012 - 11:59 PM, said:

Baby skeletons? wither skeletons? enderdragons? baby baby pigs? endermen? squids? silverfish?

Please respond!

No. Only baby zombies and villagers.

As far as I can tell, the Zombie/Villager models were merged (to allow for Zombie Villagers). Part of this change involved some manner of code inheritance from Villagers to zombies, including Zombie Pigmen who always used the Player/Zombie model anyway. We can tell for certain that Villager/Zombies/Zombie Pigmen/Zombie Villagers share the same model because all their texture file layouts were changed, even in cases where the actual texture was left untouched, just to accommodate the new merged model.

A (possibly unexpected) consequence of this is that Zombies and Zombie Pigmen can be given the same "baby" tag as baby villagers and baby zombie villagers.

To take advantage of this, try using an NBT editor to change the spawn data of a Spawner block to a Zombie Pigman with the "baby" tag.
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#6

Epicness1324

Posted 19 October 2012 - 12:10 AM

View Postspiderraptor42, on 18 October 2012 - 11:59 PM, said:

Baby skeletons? wither skeletons? enderdragons? baby baby pigs? endermen? squids? silverfish?

Please respond!

Edit: Ninja'd

On topic...
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#7

DaBiggman

Posted 19 October 2012 - 12:10 AM

I want a horde of baby zombies for my coliseum.
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#8

spiderraptor42

Posted 19 October 2012 - 12:18 AM

View PostEpicness1324, on 19 October 2012 - 12:10 AM, said:

Edit: Ninja'd

On topic...
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Saved file as: ZombiePiglets.png
Thanks for that, Epicness!

View Postcadika_orade, on 19 October 2012 - 12:08 AM, said:

No. Only baby zombies and villagers.

As far as I can tell, the Zombie/Villager models were merged (to allow for Zombie Villagers). Part of this change involved some manner of code inheritance from Villagers to zombies, including Zombie Pigmen who always used the Player/Zombie model anyway. We can tell for certain that Villager/Zombies/Zombie Pigmen/Zombie Villagers share the same model because all their texture file layouts were changed, even in cases where the actual texture was left untouched, just to accommodate the new merged model.

A (possibly unexpected) consequence of this is that Zombies and Zombie Pigmen can be given the same "baby" tag as baby villagers and baby zombie villagers.

To take advantage of this, try using an NBT editor to change the spawn data of a Spawner block to a Zombie Pigman with the "baby" tag.
Wait, Are skeletons derived from zombies too?
If so, can they have hacked bobblehead versions too?
If so, YEEEEEESSSSS!
Also, I thought wither skeletons were derivative from zombies?
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#9

Epicness1324

Posted 19 October 2012 - 12:21 AM

View Postspiderraptor42, on 19 October 2012 - 12:18 AM, said:

Saved file as: ZombiePiglets.png
Thanks for that, Epicness!

Wait, Are skeletons derived from zombies too?
If so, can they have hacked bobblehead versions too?
If so, YEEEEEESSSSS!
Also, I thought wither skeletons were derivative from zombies?

I hate to burst your bubble, but skeletons can't be babies, nor can Wither Skeletons.

I was sad when I found out that I couldn't freak people out with skeletal children in my adventure map.
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#10

spiderraptor42

Posted 19 October 2012 - 12:32 AM

View PostEpicness1324, on 19 October 2012 - 12:21 AM, said:

I hate to burst your bubble, but skeletons can't be babies, nor can Wither Skeletons.

I was sad when I found out that I couldn't freak people out with skeletal children in my adventure map.


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Okay, the giant ASCII art frowny face failed completely, but you get the point.
EDIT: it's not as cool, but here's a normal sized one: :(
So you're absolutely positively sure it's only zombies and zombie pigmen?
Can you make the babies hold/ wear things like their parents, or are they not old enough yet?
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#11

Epicness1324

Posted 19 October 2012 - 12:42 AM

View Postspiderraptor42, on 19 October 2012 - 12:32 AM, said:

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Okay, the giant ASCII art frowny face failed completely, but you get the point.
EDIT: it's not as cool, but here's a normal sized one: Posted Image
So you're absolutely positively sure it's only zombies and zombie pigmen?
Can you make the babies hold/ wear things like their parents, or are they not old enough yet?

I'm sure. Putting the whole "IsBaby" Byte on a skeleton spawner will do nothing.

You can have the babies hold/wear armor and items. The reason the zombie piglets don't have swords is because I didn't give them equipment, but I could give them anything I want.

(I could even put a block on their heads)
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#12

SoulSlayer64x

Posted 19 October 2012 - 12:54 AM

I heard about baby zombie pigmen a few weeks back. It sounded epic, but I didn't try to see one for myself. They sure do look epic though.

Offtopic: Try giving a zombie pigman a wither skeleton skull, they look like wither zombie pigmen if it works. To me it sounds like a pretty cool mod idea though. What would happen if a wither shot a zombie pigman? Would it nearly die, but go corrupt and turn into a wither zombie pigman? Would it kill any other zombie pigman on sight and turn them (as in to a wither pigman) too? Just imagine the possibilities! X_x

EDIT: Now that I think about it.. Shouldn't those zombie pigmen have half the flesh on their heads? It's not like zombies can regenerate skin when it's gone, or was never there, so how the hell do they grow half their face, on during the time they reach adulthood?
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#13

spiderraptor42

Posted 19 October 2012 - 12:55 AM

View PostEpicness1324, on 19 October 2012 - 12:42 AM, said:

I'm sure. Putting the whole "IsBaby" Byte on a skeleton spawner will do nothing.

You can have the babies hold/wear armor and items. The reason the zombie piglets don't have swords is because I didn't give them equipment, but I could give them anything I want.

(I could even put a block on their heads)
Amazing! Any block you want, not just heads and pumpkins? I obviously know nothing about theese edit programs!
too bad no baby spiders...
Those would be so adorable..
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#14

Epicness1324

Posted 19 October 2012 - 01:11 AM

View Postspiderraptor42, on 19 October 2012 - 12:55 AM, said:

Amazing! Any block you want, not just heads and pumpkins? I obviously know nothing about theese edit programs!
too bad no baby spiders...
Those would be so adorable..

Indeed any block!
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#15

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Posted 19 October 2012 - 01:45 AM

For some reason, I would be surprised in that wily Dinnerbone snuck in baby versions of a few more mobs into 1.5, just for kicks. (a la player heads)
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#16

Bellaabzug21

Posted 19 October 2012 - 01:52 AM

Yes, they are in the game but don't spawn. They can be spawned via single player commands or editing a spawner. Other than not having the pig mask on their faces, they are dead ass cute.
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#17

Mr_Sam_Miner

Posted 19 October 2012 - 02:03 AM

I thought you needed a baby zombie testificate to go through a portal..?

#18

KeenCoyote

Posted 19 October 2012 - 02:06 AM

View PostEpicness1324, on 19 October 2012 - 12:10 AM, said:

Edit: Ninja'd

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I wish this get implemented
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#19

spiderraptor42

Posted 19 October 2012 - 03:13 AM

View Postcadika_orade, on 19 October 2012 - 01:45 AM, said:

For some reason, I would be surprised in that wily Dinnerbone snuck in baby versions of a few more mobs into 1.5, just for kicks. (a la player heads)
YESYESYES!

:) I hope so!

View PostEpicness1324, on 19 October 2012 - 01:11 AM, said:

Indeed any block!
Non-solids? can you make a door stick out of it's head, or does it have to be generic block shape?
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#20

Crunchy Shadow

Posted 19 October 2012 - 07:40 AM

Question. If a baby pig is struck by lightning does it make a baby pigman?

Possible way to get it in vanilla perhaps?
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