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Posted 20 January 2011 - 12:49 AM

So I run a computer with about 1GB of ram, and I wanna run a server, for [at MOST] 4-5 people. Also, I wanna play from the same computer.

I use Windows 7. A simple yes/no/why would reallllly help. Thanks!

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Posted 20 January 2011 - 12:57 AM

Windows 7 uses what, 6-800mb itself? So if you really have 1gb in total, then the answer is no.

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Posted 20 January 2011 - 07:36 AM

Dr_House said:

Windows 7 uses what, 6-800mb itself? So if you really have 1gb in total, then the answer is no.

+1 on this, if you had a lighter OS then yes.
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Posted 20 January 2011 - 08:01 AM

Grab a copy of Ubuntu, you'll be able to dedicated at least 768mb of that RAM to minecraft. Use the guidelines of 100mb per player and you'll be golden.
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Posted 20 January 2011 - 08:05 AM

Definitely not, my friend can barely play minecraft without laggin, I got windows 7
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Posted 20 January 2011 - 08:06 AM

Running Windows 7, absolutely not. By the sounds of things this is a computer you're using for your everyday tasks... If that's the case, you'd do well to ask your local computer store about upgrading your ram (or if you're tech-savvy it's quite easy to do yourself, and inexpensive!).

Or you could use Ubuntu, as suggested, but if you've never used it before it will definitely be a learning experience.

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Posted 20 January 2011 - 11:48 AM

I have a quad core at 3.8 GHz with 4GB of ram and I couldn't host a 3 man server and play at the same time. Your mileage may vary, but running on a separate machine is preferred.
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Posted 21 January 2011 - 12:23 AM

Huh, well my windows 7 takes up 300 mb, says the Windows Task Manager.

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Posted 21 January 2011 - 12:27 AM

Install Linux as a dual boot, preferably one WITHOUT a GUI, and do everything from the terminal. Then you'd be able to on 1 GB of RAM. However, I find that the server runs best when at least 2 GB of RAM are allocated to Minecraft, but for 4 users, 1 should be fine.
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Posted 21 January 2011 - 12:38 AM

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Running Windows 7, absolutely not. By the sounds of things this is a computer you're using for your everyday tasks... If that's the case, you'd do well to ask your local computer store about upgrading your ram (or if you're tech-savvy it's quite easy to do yourself, and inexpensive!).

Or you could use Ubuntu, as suggested, but if you've never used it before it will definitely be a learning experience.

I was going to add a extra gig, but do you know a place where I could buy ram? Because I think you need the same type/manufacturer, or it MAY not work.

also http://www.ubuntu.com/server ?

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Posted 21 January 2011 - 12:52 AM

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I was going to add a extra gig, but do you know a place where I could buy ram? Because I think you need the same type/manufacturer, or it MAY not work.

also http://www.ubuntu.com/server ?

If you do not know ubuntu well, digging into learning the server version just for this is a very bad idea.  The desktop version of xubuntu would be preferred, or linux mint.

As for ram? just get the same type and speed. get these specs: is it SDR, DDR, DDR2, or DDR3? what is the PCxxxx speed of it?   google for piriform speccy, it will tell you what you have when you run it, and it will guess at how many slots you have free.  Power the system off and look inside to verify because it can be wrong once in a while, then go buy ram from newegg.com, the same type and speed (or a higher speed) then what you have now. Higher speed will just slow itself down for your other sticks, but different types are incompatible.
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Posted 21 January 2011 - 01:07 AM

Another thing you'll have to consider is your upload speed. I was self-hosting a server that ran just fine unless I had more than 3 people on it. After 3, though, my connection couldn't handle it, even though my ram was fine (running 4GB).

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Posted 21 January 2011 - 01:16 AM

Wow. Is MC's server that memory hungry? I suppose that would be a good excuse for upgrading my server box to 4 gigs of RAM. (I should have just bought 4 when I set it up; I have no idea why I went with just 2.) :-)

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Posted 21 January 2011 - 02:14 AM

I was running a vanilla server with 20/5 internet, 2gb ram, and it was SO LAGGY.
I have FiOS too, so I don't see why it would matter.  It lowers the FPS on your computer drastically if you do server and MC together (and you have 1gb of ram, good luck).
I had just 4 people on as well.  Minecraft is a giant memory hog. It takes 1 DEDICATED (dedicated) gigabyte to handle a max of 12 players on a server.  Don't make the map too giant either.
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Posted 21 January 2011 - 07:38 AM

I am running my own server on my laptop (Windows 7, Dual core, 4GB DDR3) and I am able to play at the same time with 12 other people. And I get smooth FPS. Just get more RAM, and setup a batch file to run the server with more allocated memory. I allocate about 2GB for the server. But set up a virtual box, it will definitely run it a lot smoother.

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Posted 22 January 2011 - 08:01 PM

jaqiefox said:

JexelD said:

I was going to add a extra gig, but do you know a place where I could buy ram? Because I think you need the same type/manufacturer, or it MAY not work.

also http://www.ubuntu.com/server ?

If you do not know ubuntu well, digging into learning the server version just for this is a very bad idea.  The desktop version of xubuntu would be preferred, or linux mint.

As for ram? just get the same type and speed. get these specs: is it SDR, DDR, DDR2, or DDR3? what is the PCxxxx speed of it?   google for piriform speccy, it will tell you what you have when you run it, and it will guess at how many slots you have free.  Power the system off and look inside to verify because it can be wrong once in a while, then go buy ram from newegg.com, the same type and speed (or a higher speed) then what you have now. Higher speed will just slow itself down for your other sticks, but different types are incompatible.

I downloaded the Speccy program, and then went on newegg.com and looked at "RAM DDR2 1GB PC2-5300".

So I found these two: (Would any one of them work? or is there something I missed?)

CORSAIR 1GB 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 667 (PC2 5300) Desktop Memory Model VS1GB667D2
Cas Latency: 5
Voltage: 1.8V
Timing: 5-5-5-15
Heat Spreader: No
Model #: VS1GB667D2
Item #: N82E16820146580
Return Policy: Memory Standard Return Policy


WINTEC AMPO 1GB 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 667 (PC2 5300) Desktop Memory Model 3AMD2667-1G2-R
Cas Latency: 5
Voltage: 1.8V
Timing: 5-5-5
ECC: No
Model #: 3AMD2667-1G2-R
Item #: N82E16820161675
Return Policy: Memory Standard Return Policy

Oh, my ram has "Max Bandwidth: PC2-5300 (333 MHz)"

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Posted 22 January 2011 - 08:30 PM

how many slots do you have free, and how many occupied?

Also, does speccy say dual channel or single channel?

if it says dual channel and you have two or more slots free, get a couple 1GB sticks, youll be glad you did.

The corsair is a better more recognized brand but any ram that works works so compare prices and make your own decision.  I personally will only buy kingston ram but I am severely picky and you could even call me anal about what ram ill put in my systems.
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Posted 26 January 2011 - 12:07 AM

jaqiefox said:

how many slots do you have free, and how many occupied?

Also, does speccy say dual channel or single channel?

if it says dual channel and you have two or more slots free, get a couple 1GB sticks, youll be glad you did.

The corsair is a better more recognized brand but any ram that works works so compare prices and make your own decision.  I personally will only buy kingston ram but I am severely picky and you could even call me anal about what ram ill put in my systems.

I have 1 spot free, so I can only get 1 GB more of ram. :'( I dont see where it says if its duel channel, though.

Thanks for helping!

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Posted 26 January 2011 - 02:34 AM

no problem. actually they make 2gb and 4gb ddr2 sticks, remember higher speed is ok just not lower.

check out a 2gb stick, itll be worth it.  I just bought a pair of 2GB for my own server, actually. kingston valueram dual 2gb ddr2 kit.
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Posted 26 January 2011 - 04:15 AM

Yah I tried that on a netbook running 7 = INSTANT fail.

That being said, all depends on your machine, what kind of processor you have, whether it's a laptop or desktop, etc.
All I can say is good luck, but I don't think it's gonna happen, sorry.
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