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#121

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Posted 19 March 2012 - 05:03 AM

Here are the four recipes I have thought of, and am now proposing.

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Edit: I think this should be moved to the suggestions section.

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#122

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Posted 19 March 2012 - 06:55 AM

View PostTYTHERDGOON, on 17 March 2012 - 03:27 AM, said:

You want to build stuff?
Go on creative, that is what it is for, not survival.
Survival is for surviving.

Survival is the entire game, it's not just for surviving it's for doing everything. Creative is a limited mode designed just for building.

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Posted 19 March 2012 - 07:22 AM

View Postbluemagic123, on 19 March 2012 - 05:03 AM, said:

Here are the four recipes I have thought of, and am now proposing.

[spoiler]This is the one I thought of before I ever saw this thread.
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I previously have been opposed to the crafting of Netherbrick but seeing this crafting recipe has changed my mind.

I could support this recipe.

#124

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Posted 19 March 2012 - 01:24 PM

Why are you using netherack in your recipes? It's like using dirt to craft cobblestone. Netherbrick can't be crafted for now, there's no suitable material.
Maybe in the future we will have nether stone...

Why not a recipe for blaze rods and nether wart ?

#125

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Posted 19 March 2012 - 08:29 PM

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Why? Because Netherrack is "Nether stone". I don't see you complaining that Stone Bricks are made from Stone.

Netherack is flamable, nether brick isnt >> different material.

We should be able to craft something with the netherack, but not netherbrick.

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Posted 19 March 2012 - 08:48 PM

View PostItsMyself, on 19 March 2012 - 08:29 PM, said:



Netherack is flamable, nether brick isnt >> different material.

We should be able to craft something with the netherack, but not netherbrick.
And in a compaction process, I fail to see how a flammable material couldn't stand to lose its flammability.

Poor argument, really. Just because it isn't flammable now does not mean it was not flammable at one point.

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Posted 19 March 2012 - 11:28 PM

View PostItsMyself, on 19 March 2012 - 01:24 PM, said:

Why are you using netherack in your recipes? It's like using dirt to craft cobblestone. Netherbrick can't be crafted for now, there's no suitable material.
Maybe in the future we will have nether stone...

Why not a recipe for blaze rods and nether wart ?
Because, blaze rods and nether wart are renewable, while nether bricks aren't. I use netherrack in the recipes simly because they have the closest color to nether bricks out of all stonelike blocks (maybe even all blocks). And netherrack is not the only thing in my recipes. Also, your dirt and cobblestone argument is invalid. According to the source code, cobblestone, netherrack, and nether brick all have Material.rock, while dirt has Material.ground.

View PostItsMyself, on 19 March 2012 - 08:29 PM, said:

Netherack is flamable, nether brick isnt >> different material.

We should be able to craft something with the netherack, but not netherbrick.
In most of my recipes except for the last, unflammable stuff are also required. I think of this as removing the flammability of the netherrack.

#128

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Posted 20 March 2012 - 09:13 AM

We should be able to craft Diamonds. They're too rare too be useful as a building material and I really don't like to ruin those nice diamond veins I find in the ground anyway. They are sacred rocks and I always build small altars around them for worship. I don't understand how people can dig them out and use them as tools!

I suggest a recipe where we need to use 4 coal, 8 redstone, a stack of stone and 1 bucket of lava.

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Posted 20 March 2012 - 08:35 PM

Guys, Please stop fighting and derailing this thread. If you'd like to suggest new ideas, etc. That's fine and build on each other's ideas, but  bickering isn't getting us anywhere, now is it? Please, refrain from having a chat here. Thanks! Posted Image
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Posted 20 March 2012 - 11:14 PM

I'll post my recipes in a poll in the suggestions section, then the community can decide what they want. It will be much simpler than this debate (unless someone decides to start a debate there).

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Posted 21 March 2012 - 04:22 PM

I agree that in single-player there isn't much of a reason for Nether resources to be craftable.  Navigating the Nether provides some challenge, but it is a challenge that you can learn to cope with.

On multiplayer on the other hand... there are a couple problems:
  • Due to lag, almost all servers limit the Nether to a fairly small area.  That makes the rarer Nether resources very much quantity-limited.  If you are in a busy server, things like glowstone and nether brick are gone very quickly after the Nether is opened.  The same thing happens with The End, but at least servers are learning to regenerate The End at least once a day.  The Nether on the other hand... typically stays around for at least 6-12 months - in its depleted form.
  • To make it worse, most survival servers use the Nether as the PVP area - putting it wholly under the control of less than 10% of the server's players (the ones focused on PVP), while the others (the ones focused on building) can't cope with the gear/enchantments/teams they face in the Nether and have to stay away... of become prey of the sleazebags that don't have the guts to face equally equipped players and prefer to bully the weak.
So IMHO, Nether item crafting should be available in Multiplayer.

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Posted 22 March 2012 - 02:20 AM

And if it's available in SMP, it should be available in SSP.

#133

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Posted 22 March 2012 - 03:56 PM

I think there's something about the fact that it has "bricks" in the name that implies that it can be produced.

considering it is specifically a building material, i think there should be some way to craft it.

and aside from that, there is no precedent for blocks like this. sponge cannot be obtained because it technically doesn't even spawn. monster spawners aren't used in the generator as a building material, so they make sense. every single material used in-game as a building material can be obtained through crafting except for decorative variations. And even some of the decorative variations are going to have crafting recipes, heiroglyphics for example.

would a 3x3 block of netherrack really break the game? it would become only marginally easier to obtain, and would, hey, allow you to build stuff with it without wrecking interesting structures.
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#134

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Posted 22 March 2012 - 04:01 PM

View Postalexcarlson, on 13 March 2012 - 06:30 PM, said:

It looks like complete fucking shit anyway.
Finally someone thinks the same as me. Netherbrick looks like utter shit, unless it is in the actual Nether Fortress.

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Posted 22 March 2012 - 04:06 PM

View Postscrubking, on 13 March 2012 - 06:19 PM, said:

Jeb gives us a new brick in 1.2, but completely abandons Nether brick? When are we going to get a recipe for it? When are we going to be able to make it without having to get lucky and find a nether fortress? What if the fortress doesn't have enough bricks to make what you want?

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#136

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Posted 22 March 2012 - 10:45 PM

View PostSven_The_Slayer, on 19 March 2012 - 04:38 AM, said:

Minecraft is a creative sand box and survival is no less of such.  Adding availability to existing materials as well as adding more options can only make that sandbox better.

Cobble - smooth - brick
netherrack - refined - brick
sand - sandstone - sandstone brick (that's an old argument that sandstone needs to have a natural and refined brick)

CHECK and check, now onto the refined nether rack *crosses fingers*
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#137

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Posted 22 March 2012 - 10:55 PM

According to my poll thread, the majority of the community wants a recipe for nether bricks. So clearly, a recipe for nether bricks is a good idea. It also seems that people like my third recipe the most.