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[manatee321]

Just doing a poll
chose which one is better over price and performance

[Galaxy_Class]

manatee321, on 07 March 2012 - 02:57 AM, said:

Just doing a poll
chose which one is better over price and performance

As far as I know Kepler is the 700 series and the 600s is a OEM die shrink.

[manatee321]

999Catfish, on 07 March 2012 - 02:59 AM, said:

As far as I know Kepler is the 700 series and the 600s is a OEM die shrink.

Ok so its really called the 700 series
Ive heard they just skipped the 600 series

If you can please tell me why you selected that option

[Galaxy_Class]

manatee321, on 07 March 2012 - 03:02 AM, said:

Ok so its really called the 700 series
Ive heard they just skipped the 600 series

If you can please tell me why you selected that option

It may or may not be better then the AMD 7000 series. Nvidia is usually more expensive but does give great performance. 600 series is released, or at least for laptops: http://www.newegg.co...N82E16834230257

[Exalted Kezia]

I've read some reviews of the 7950 and what I've gathered is that it matches and in some cases surpasses the GTX 580 in terms of performance. Judging from that and the fact that the drivers for both the 7950 and 7970 are still in development I wouldn't be surprised if the 7970 pulls way ahead of the GTX 580 in benchmarks. Although the new AMD cards are ridiculously over priced at the moment...

Nvidia is most likely doing what they did with the 300/400 series. The 600 series will be the rebadged laptop GPUs and the 700 series will be the new desktop GPUs. They have already released the 600 series on laptops so that would not surprise me in the slightest.

Edited by Exalted Kezia, 07 March 2012 - 03:26 AM.

[Infired]

I'd suggest taking a look at the HD7870 from AMD which is to be released near the end of this month? Benchmarks show that they perform slightly better than the 580, and slightly under the 7950 and supposedly cheaper. (From where I buy my hardware, they have already got prices on the 7870, and they're still cheaper than a Superclocked GTX580 from EVGA)



The 7970 is currently the worlds fastest single GPU card at the moment, and surpasses the GTX580 easily. For price:performance, I'm not quite sure on that, but if the price of a 7870 is cheaper than a 580, then the price:performance ratio is pretty damn good.

[Xaanos]

Well It might not be worth waiting for kepler TSMC has stopped all 28nm production for all its customers.
http://semiaccurate....8nm-production/

[eftj]

The 7970 dick punches the 580, no question. But the 7950 and 580 are more evenly matched, with the 7950 coming out on top 90% of the time and being cheaper.

[MarshallRA]

The 7970 beats the GTX 580 by a good 10-20% in almost all benchmarks and games, the 7950 is a closer match for the GTX 580, but even then the 7950 beats it most of the time. Sometimes, even the 7870 can beat the 580, although that is slightly better than the GTX 570 most of the time.

[Infired]

MarshallRA, on 08 March 2012 - 01:50 AM, said:

The 7970 beats the GTX 580 by a good 10-20% in almost all benchmarks and games, the 7950 is a closer match for the GTX 580, but even then the 7950 beats it most of the time. Sometimes, even the 7870 can beat the 580, although that is slightly better than the GTX 570 most of the time.

If you take a look at the graph I showed, the 7870 beats the 570 and most likely will beat it in every other game. Not to mention, those benchmarks were taken with AMD's release drivers, so when they release more, better the drivers, surely the 7870 will leave both the 570 and 580 in the dust.

[manatee321]

Infired, on 07 March 2012 - 07:04 AM, said:

I'd suggest taking a look at the HD7870 from AMD which is to be released near the end of this month? Benchmarks show that they perform slightly better than the 580, and slightly under the 7950 and supposedly cheaper. (From where I buy my hardware, they have already got prices on the 7870, and they're still cheaper than a Superclocked GTX580 from EVGA)



The 7970 is currently the worlds fastest single GPU card at the moment, and surpasses the GTX580 easily. For price:performance, I'm not quite sure on that, but if the price of a 7870 is cheaper than a 580, then the price:performance ratio is pretty damn good.

Ok that sounds great

Infired, on 08 March 2012 - 02:42 AM, said:

If you take a look at the graph I showed, the 7870 beats the 570 and most likely will beat it in every other game. Not to mention, those benchmarks were taken with AMD's release drivers, so when they release more, better the drivers, surely the 7870 will leave both the 570 and 580 in the dust.

Ok sounds intresting

[manatee321]

Does anyone know why Nvidia cards only have Dvi and mini hdmi on them while AMD 7970 and 7950 have hdmi ports?

[Archis]

manatee321, on 09 March 2012 - 09:44 PM, said:

Does anyone know why Nvidia cards only have Dvi and mini hdmi on them while AMD 7970 and 7950 have hdmi ports?

It's generally a space saving idea. Smaller connectors will mean more space for rear ventilation. Nearly all cards come with miniHDMI-HDMI and DVI-VGA anyway.

[Christoi]

Currently the 7970 is quite a bit ahead of the GTX580, unless you will be using CUDA. Can't say much about the Kepler series though, since nothing has been properly tested yet.

mcnulty97, on 09 March 2012 - 09:47 PM, said:

It's generally a space saving idea. Smaller connectors will mean more space for rear ventilation. Nearly all cards come with miniHDMI-HDMI and DVI-VGA anyway.

Seems like an odd decision though, my old GT130 was able to have a DVI, VGA and HDMI on a single slot, don't see why it can't be done with two DVI's and a HDMI. I'm currently using a HDMI cable with a mini-HDMI adapter on my GTS450, but it's extremely flimsy and loosely connected...

[manatee321]

mcnulty97, on 09 March 2012 - 09:47 PM, said:

It's generally a space saving idea. Smaller connectors will mean more space for rear ventilation. Nearly all cards come with miniHDMI-HDMI and DVI-VGA anyway.

ok i just found it weird why nvidia still has 2 dvi ports and no hdmi ports (thats why im going with amd)

Radeon HD 7950 Core Edition 3GB 384-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 3.0 x16 HDCP

Is that GPU good. for me it goes below 2000 dollars in my build and it seems powerful (Destroys nvidia current cards). and also i need help on my motherboard

[Archis]

manatee321, on 09 March 2012 - 10:04 PM, said:

ok i just found it weird why nvidia still has 2 dvi ports and no hdmi ports (thats why im going with amd)

Radeon HD 7950 Core Edition 3GB 384-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 3.0 x16 HDCP

Is that GPU good. for me it goes below 2000 dollars in my build and it seems powerful (Destroys nvidia current cards). and also i need help on my motherboard

nVIDIA do have HDMI though(But HDMI is generally used for TVs). But the 7950 is a really nice card and will be more than enough for games.

[manatee321]

mcnulty97, on 09 March 2012 - 10:06 PM, said:

nVIDIA do have HDMI though. But the 7950 is a really nice card and will be more than enough for games.

Thanks Im propably going to stick with this card b/c the new 600 series will propably be expensive as ever and then AMD cards will go down in price.

[Minecraftguy105]

Here is my logic: If the 600 series are awesome, than the 7970 will be cheaper. If the 600 series suck (hope not, I want a cheap 7970) than the 7970 will stay the same or increase.
Also if the 600 series are really cheap (doubt it) then the 7970 will drop

[manatee321]

Minecraftguy105, on 10 March 2012 - 04:29 AM, said:

Here is my logic: If the 600 series are awesome, than the 7970 will be cheaper. If the 600 series suck (hope not, I want a cheap 7970) than the 7970 will stay the same or increase.
Also if the 600 series are really cheap (doubt it) then the 7970 will drop

Ok if any of the series is below 500 ill look into one

[manatee321]

Minecraftguy105, on 10 March 2012 - 04:29 AM, said:

Here is my logic: If the 600 series are awesome, than the 7970 will be cheaper. If the 600 series suck (hope not, I want a cheap 7970) than the 7970 will stay the same or increase.
Also if the 600 series are really cheap (doubt it) then the 7970 will drop

I've heard the the kepler will be more than 500 for now. which could mean a large decrease in price around the boards