Posted 04 March 2012 - 07:24 AM
Now, before I start, I want to say my data is from the last snapshot of 1.2, not 1.2 itself, so I don't know if any of it has changed.
I was playing the game and looking for jungle trees. I knew they now had saplings and was very excited to start farming them. I broke a bunch of their leaves, no saplings. I kept going at it and eventually got one. I worked away for 10-20 minutes and got 9 saplings. I went back to my home, far from the jungle, certain that I would have enough to start breeding jungle trees as a renewable resource. Much to my dismay, of the single large jungle tree and 5 normal sized jungle trees I grew, I wasn't even able to return to my original 9 saplings! I had dropped to 6. I kept going, thinking I just had terribly bad luck, but found after several attempts that the saplings just weren't spawning. I thought maybe I was doing something wrong. I thought maybe I was unlucky. I opened a new save and spawned in a jungle where I then proceeded to to a survey of 1000 broken jungle leaves. I got 27 saplings. That's pretty skimpy!!
So my question is, are any of you finding this to be the case in the official release of the update and if so, do you think it is annoying? Personally I'd like to be able to breed jungle trees on my server; my friends and I like to keep it vanilla survival and it seems a great hassle just to get a few of these trees. But maybe I'm overlooking something. Maybe they need to be non-renewable. I'm interested to hear what you have to say.
Posted 04 March 2012 - 07:35 AM
A tall jungle tree can be grown with 4 saplings in a square and bonemeal used on them. However, I agree that the saplings are a bit rare.
Posted 04 March 2012 - 07:37 AM
Posted 04 March 2012 - 07:43 AM
Posted 04 March 2012 - 08:01 AM
Never had problems with saplings and i have stacks of them.
BTW, i let leaves decay - i dont destroy them.
Posted 04 March 2012 - 02:51 PM
I started to notice that I get more by letting them decay, and it seems that every time you replant a tree, it drops more, like on a survival island, you start with 1 saplings, and from that one you get 2, from that 3-4 etc
Posted 05 March 2012 - 11:31 PM
Posted 05 March 2012 - 11:43 PM
Posted 06 March 2012 - 04:23 AM
Posted 06 March 2012 - 04:02 PM
you mean 1 jungle wood sapling next to 3 saplings of different trees will still produce a giant jungle tree?
edit; yep, sure does.
I noticed something else as well. wasted 2 stacks of bonedust to try this and it did not work at first, as I tried, a sheep ate a piece of grass right next to the saplings and what happened?? the non-jungle saplings changed into jungle saplings! so I moved away and tried it again, this time I broke a tall grass next to the saplings and it happened again. when I tried it without adding the bonedust, nothing happened. so I set up another spot and this time the bonedust made a jungle giant! 1 jungle sap and 3 oak is what I used.
so it seems if the bone dust doesnt work the first time, make the near blocks update and youll have achance of getting more junglesaps from it.
Posted 06 March 2012 - 04:55 PM
That's news to me. Either a great tip or an awesome troll attempt.
I tried it with terrible results. I gave my wife my glasses for a second, a creeper showed up and now my wife is pregnant.
Posted 06 March 2012 - 05:27 PM
it does work, although not consistantly. like I said, if the bone meal dont work at first, try to update the block next to the sapling group and it seems to convert non-jungle saplings into jungle ones. only seems to work if bone dust doesnt take.
but yeah, as long as one sapling in the 4 is a jungle one, then it can have a chance of making a giant.
Posted 06 March 2012 - 05:35 PM
Posted 06 March 2012 - 07:26 PM
I like that there are different raritys (spelling?) per species, but jungle saps need a bit of an increase maybe.
Posted 06 March 2012 - 11:53 PM
Posted 07 March 2012 - 12:42 AM
Posted 07 March 2012 - 01:40 AM
we know that jungle giants cannot have any thing next to the saplings in order to grow because the giants spawn with vines that need those blocks to be free.
you can grow a giant with just 1 sapling of jungle and 3 of any other.
bonus/glitch; if anything is occupying a block next to the saplings and you take 1 try with bonedust, it will fail to grow but once you clear whatever is the space the non-jungle saps will convert to the jungle variety. just break 3 and replace with more non-jungle saps and place a block next to them, repeat to get extra jungle saplings at cost of bone meal and what ever saps you used.
make sure you place the block you use to obscure the growth is placed next to a non-jungle sap. if placed next to the jungle one it will let it grow. it seem to make it into the larger of the giants.
Posted 09 March 2012 - 06:52 PM
Posted 09 March 2012 - 08:14 PM
That's a great tip - just tested, and it works! Three common saplings + one jungle sapling + one bone meal on jungle sapling = giant jungle tree.
EDIT : I cut down that tree, and let the leaves decay, it gave 12 saplings! From using one jungle sapling and 3 regular. Nice payoff!