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[Locklear308]

Lysa, on 23 February 2012 - 12:40 AM, said:

A wizard did it.

If you want to show off how much lapis you mined make it into blocks or something.

It's not so much a show off lapis. As it is a show of effort/work. That's the center for minecraft, showing off effort and work.

[Xinkc]

Locklear308, on 23 February 2012 - 12:49 AM, said:

It's not so much a show off lapis. As it is a show of effort/work. That's the center for minecraft, showing off effort and work.

I will argue that a good portion of the showing off isn't necessarily tied to mining the materials themselves. That's just a grind and adds sentimental value to the creation. It is the time and effort put into painstakingly designing your creations, picking what material would look good in certain spots, making the place have complex redstone mechanisms yet still look nice, etc.

Basically, I'm arguing that it is the act of building that adds the most value to things in Minecraft. It's why people fawn over things built with Creative mode like what the RPGmakers (Jesse Cox and the whole Shaboozey gang) make. The blocks themselves add some value but it is the aesthetics and complexity of the build that adds the majority of the value.

Anyways, speaking from personal experience, building with wool wasn't really worth it before sheep could regrow it. I know I never bothered with wool before, partly due to my preference towards buildings built with materials that would be stable in reality, but now that I get a better return with wool (with regards to time spent gathering it) I might decide to use it in something.

[MoButtah]

Xinkc, on 23 February 2012 - 02:38 AM, said:

I will argue that a good portion of the showing off isn't necessarily tied to mining the materials themselves. That's just a grind and adds sentimental value to the creation. It is the time and effort put into painstakingly designing your creations, picking what material would look good in certain spots, making the place have complex redstone mechanisms yet still look nice, etc.

Basically, I'm arguing that it is the act of building that adds the most value to things in Minecraft. It's why people fawn over things built with creative like what the RPGmakers (Jesse Cox and the whole Shaboozey gang) make. The blocks themselves add some value but it is the aesthetics and complexity of the build that adds the majority of the value.

Anyways, speaking from personal experience, building with wool wasn't really worth it before sheep could regrow it. I know I never bothered with wool before, partly due to me liking my buildings being built with materials that could be stable in reality, but now that I get a better return with wool (with regards to time spent gathering it) I might decide to use it in something.

I follow this man's train of thought.

Say you have 1000's of blue wool harvested from hard work in the mines. It's valuable. You can't breed sheep with colored wool in this universe. So now you want to show it off. Obviously the most efficient way to show off such magnificent wealth would be to make a cube. Is that more valuable than a wool castle made from cheap wool? The rarity adds sentiment, but the creation adds awe.

[Zurrdroid]

I couldn't help myself...

IT IS SO DON'T HAVE TO BREAK THE WOOLS MORE THAN ONCE, OR ELSE YOU WILL DYE.

http://www.youtube.c...h?v=5NylmdC_uEM

[GorgeousTaylor]

Braystreet, on 22 February 2012 - 08:51 PM, said:

Too easy for survival? Wah? It's insane that dyes are as hard to get as they are, but it adds a healthy level of challenge to getting them in the first place, I couldn't imagine having to do it every time I wanted a single batch of dyed wools.

Excuse me, what? The ONLY dyes that this would apply to are cocoa beans and MAYBE lapis lazuli.
Everything else is easily accessible.

[coolpop18]

Yes, it does, it is great if you want more color wool.

[AshleyMine]

(Cobble)stone is a material that is useful and can be aquired at unmatched speeds and quantity.
Iron is a material that is useful and can be aquired at a rate much faster than colored wool off bred sheep.
Wheat is very useful and can be aquired at an exponential rate where after a couple of full days it becomes pretty much trivial.

Yet here you are complaining that a block type that adds nothing but a creative aspect to MineCraft is somewhat overpowered (trip bloody balls jesus) because sheep that you're breeding is maintaining it's color.

One of the few blocks that is used only to build something visually pleasant by having a certain color;- being reasonable accessable through breeding;- to you is so unbareable you had to dedicate a topic to it to make your voice heard of how you think that is "overpowered".

Honestly I don't see the discussion value;- it looks like a random rant created just to rant without any logical basis whatsoever... Why do sheep regenerate colored wool... hot damn if this is one of your concerns in this game you must have one hell of a bloody depressing experience playing it.

[OmegaDez]

OP?? I like the new system. You can finally build something out of wool. It was quite useless before since it was so limited.

I can finally consider colored wool as a building material and not just some decoration thing.

[Otterman]

Sgtchuckle117, on 22 February 2012 - 04:39 PM, said:

My question is, why in the world do sheep regenerate dyed wool after eating grass? What did I do to it, inject "lime green" into its DNA or something? If I glued an orange to a pine tree, then cut down the tree and replanted its seedlings, the new tree wouldn't grow oranges. After you shear a sheep and it regrows its wool, the sheep should have white or grey or pink or whatever color wool it spawned with. That way, you still get the advantage of getting more dyed wool per dye (you get 2-3 wool per sheep so if you dyed the sheep you would get 2-3x more dyed wool) without getting an OP, infinite source of whatever color wool.

Maybe once you de the wool still on the sheep, it seeps into their skin and everytime they regrow their wool, it's already colored! XD

EDIT: But you can use other dyes on them for them to regrow wool of that color, or use bonemeal on them so they're cured of their color disease!

[grommen]

Well cause someone has to dislike any given aspect of the game. So it's your turn this time.

It took me months to find a cocoa bean. Now your saying that I should only be able to make what 3 or 4 brown blocks of wool with it. Just because it's hard to find?

Lets see.

Step 1, find cocoa bean (days and days of speelunking in mines, caves, etc.
Step 2, lure two sheep (remember they are harder to find now a days) into an enclose.
Step 3, turn them brown.
Step 4, O ya by the way when your breed two sheep of the same color, guess what you get?
Step 5, Repeat the breeding process for a few hours till you have a sufficent level of
brown sheep, say ten or twelve.
Step 6, Now you can farm brown wool till your heart is content, provided you have the
iron for the shears.

So how did this get easy? In the amount of time I took to make a wool farm that has a good yield, I could have built an entire castle (and not a small one) out of cobble.

[MoButtah]

Hmmmm. Possibly a solution would be that sheep only regrow their original wool, but breeding dyed sheep yields a dyed sheep? It requires more effort?

[Omegasa]

If you don't like the fact that sheep regrow colored wool, then recolor them white after each dye job. Or, better yet, just color the wool individually after each sheering session.