13w02a Snapshot Ready for Testing!

By Sacheverell Jan 10, 2013
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Even with the official release of 1.4.7, Mojang isn't slowing down one bit - time for another Snapshot! What sort of amazing stuff lies in store for today's preview? Let's take a look!

Textures for blocks and items now have individual image files
Improved death messages
Improved naming (using the anvil) of containers and mob eggs
Trapped chests now give off the redstone signal through walls
Improved hoppers and made them controllable by redstone
Updated language files
Language files can now be updated via the background downloader (no need for a new Minecraft release)

A Note on Textures

Starting from this snapshot and forward, blocks and items will no longer load their artwork from one big sheet of sprites. Instead, they’ll have individual files for each image they’re using. The benefit from this is that it will be easier for Mojang to support custom blocks and items in the future. It will also allow Mojang to mix and match block artwork resolutions, and make sure that you get graphics for blocks that your current texture pack isn't updated for. Pretty awesome!

As always, get your Snapshot files below!

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Posted Jan 11, 2013
Quote from AnonTheMouse

Bottom line, if I was able to run a game when I got it, there is an expectation that the system requirements will continue to be what they were when I made the decision to get the game. If they aren't, and I'm suddenly no longer able to play after an update, I am going to be rightfully upset, as I had no way of knowing what kind of hardware the game would take to run in the future.

Actually that's the opposite of the truth. When you bought the game, you bought what they had at that time. Everything afterward is a bonus, and optional to you. You are never required to update your game, and if you are concerned that updating will slow down your machine you should keep backups of the jar file.The other 95% of us who like updates and have computers that can run them don't want Minecraft development to stagnate so you can run it on your 2001 PowerPC.Or would you prefer Mojang do what other game developers do, and release "MineCraft 2012" and "MineCraft 2013" etc every year and charge $60 for it each time? That sounds like a better deal to me.

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Posted Jan 11, 2013
Ok... this update is pretty epic. Bout time that we can use the faithful 32 and other quality packs without having to patch the client. There's still something missing though... 2 things actually IMHO...

COAL/CHARCOAL Blocks - I can't tell you how much coal I leave behind exploring because of this lack of block.

Option for less Caves/Ravines in otherwise vanilla and large biome world types. Would really like to start playing Minecraft again instead of Cavecraft.

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Posted Jan 11, 2013
Tada! NEW SNAPSHOT.

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Posted Jan 11, 2013
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Yeah, it's such a trauma to open up a folder with 100's of image files...forget about discontinuing texture packs, we'll sure see a lot of suicides because of that.

Once again, the stupidness of the Universe wins over intelligence.

P.D: Sorry for the double post, I forgot to edit

Lazyness* Fixed it for you.

If you are dat' lazy, then don't make tp, simple as that.

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Posted Jan 11, 2013
Question on the use of the hopper with furnaces. How does it handle buckets of lava since there would be an empty bucket? Can you only use it with coal and charcoal?

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Posted Jan 11, 2013
Quote from AnonTheMouse

Bottom line, if I was able to run a game when I got it, there is an expectation that the system requirements will continue to be what they were when I made the decision to get the game. If they aren't, and I'm suddenly no longer able to play after an update, I am going to be rightfully upset, as I had no way of knowing what kind of hardware the game would take to run in the future.

Haha you're joking right. Guess I should get out my apple mac II and then call and yeall at apple, telling them it should be compatible with all of today's technology.

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Posted Jan 11, 2013
Quote from Zirak

The changelog you post here on the forum is boring and we don't get enough information. Why not just put a link to the wiki?
http://www.minecraft...opment_versions

..or i'll just copy & paste it in here:

Textures for blocks and items now have individual image files.
Improved Skeletons' aim.
Improved naming (using the anvil) of containers and mob eggs.

Mobs spawned from renamed eggs have the name of the egg.
Renamed Chests and Trapped Chests will display their new name when opened in the top left corner.

Added and improved death messages

Player fell off a ladder
Player fell off some vines
Player fell out of the water
Player fell from a high place
Player fell into a patch of fire
Player fell into a patch of cacti
Player got finished off by Player/Mob using Weapon
Player walked into a fire whilst fighting Player/Mob
Player was burnt to a crisp whilst fighting Player/Mob
Player tried to swim in lava while trying to escape Player/Mob
Player walked into a cactus while trying to escape Player/Mob
Player was slain by Player/Mob using Weapon
Player was killed trying to hurt Player/Mob

Trapped chests now give off the redstone signal through walls
Improved hoppers and made them controllable by redstone

Hoppers now stop leaking while powered by redstone

Updated language files
Language files can now be updated via the background downloader (no need for a new Minecraft release)
Hopper crafting recipe now uses Iron Ingots instead of Stone
Trapped Chest is now in Decoration Blocks in creative mode inventory
Added Block of Quartz, Chiseled Quartz Block, Pillar Quartz Block, Quartz Stairs, and Quartz Slab
Added Activator Rail, which activates TNT Minecarts
Added Minecart with TNT

Explodes more violently when it derails

Texture for Redstone Comparator changed slightly
Texture for Hopper changed slightly
Changed the chests in abandoned mineshafts to Minecart with Chest
Bug fixes:

Fixed minecart sound getting stuck on long cart rides and getting bumby, choppy

Fixed joining/updating servers taking very long

Fixed clicking quickly in succession in GUIs ignoring clicks

Fixed inactive detector rails giving redstone signals through solid blocks next to them

Fixed an item duplication bug with the hopper

Fixed cacti growing way too fast

Fixed byte reading code sometimes reading the wrong bytes

Oh, that's co- IMPROVED SKELETON AIM?! WHAT'S BETTER THAN AN AIMBOT?!?!?!
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Posted Jan 11, 2013
Textures are white, i use the default texture and without installed mod

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Posted Jan 11, 2013
I found a couple of bugs in the new snapshot. The first is every door handle faces to the left on the inside & to the right on the outside. Also, the particles for the wooden door are white instead of the typical brownish color.

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Posted Jan 11, 2013
You can get the latest snapshot here ( http://www.mojang.com/2013/01/minecraft-snapshot-13w02b/ )

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Posted Jan 11, 2013
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Reading these comments I can't help but notice that anyone who has anything negative to say at all about a feature in the snapshot is most often met with immediate hatred and left unconsidered. Actually, in hiensight this seems to apply to any update about he game in general I'm gonna try to be a bit positive and negative about some of this snapshots features.

I feel like the texture pack change was a poor attempt to make it simpler. While this might be a simple solution for the texture artist for Minecraft default, who only needs to add or change a few block textures in a snapshot, a texture pack artist from the community has to sort through the various files now. This may however open up some possibilities for modders. What really concerns me is the risk of this creating more unnecessary lag. I admit I am not a programer, but from my perspective, it seems less efficient to load multiple files at once constantly than to pick from one large one. If anyone knows about this please let me know.

I don't believe skeletons need knew AI. Combat in Minecraft is already lackluster, "because you're supposed to build around mobs" so that level of difficulty seems unfair.

Death message changes are unnecessary and don't really add to the game. Just a thing that exists I suppose.

I like the quartz blocks, though I wish there were less varieties only because other blocks do not have the same amount of variety for the same object and it is very inconsistant. I also wish the texture wasn't so flat, though the color is nice.

Side note, the texture for nether quartz ore is horrible and needs to die. A lot of newer ones do.

The hoppers new features are nice, but I wish the hopper had a different design so it would make sense when things where traveling from left to right.

TNT carts are cool I guess. Though I know for a fact its from a mod.

Overall the update feels like it goes in too many directions. A single focus that is more polished would have probably provided something better suiting for the game.

Agree? Disagree?

hindsight*

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Posted Jan 11, 2013
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This method will consume a lot more RAM and will cause the game to lag a LOT more. I know because I've just updated my 128x sonic pack (WIP) and I am literally moving 1 block per second. So, people like me with less advanced graphics processors will suffer from this update.

Says The Person With One Post.

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Posted Jan 11, 2013
Looks like some of the textures are getting pulled from the wrong files, Someone already mentioned the dispenser face being replaced by the unlit furnace but the inventory images of the furnace and the dispenser both show only sides and top, no distinguishing characteristics. The cauldron is messed up too, the "inside" posts on all interior walls instead of the floor of the cauldron, and the "bottom" posts on the floor of the cauldron and again at the bottom of the feet. Looks pretty silly in game.

Also, at the mention of the quarts having "too many" different iterations Sandstone has exactly the same number of iterations and stone bricks have more. As a builder and someone who makes their own texture pack, I find the new quarts to be too light with too little contrast but other than that I could not be happier. Rather than saying that quarts has too many iterations, I am more inclined to believe that other blocks have too few iterations. *snip*

Someone else said they can't find the redstone torch, It's in texture, then Blocks, and it's called "redtorch" and "redtorch_lit"

Edit: Well hurp me while I'm durpin... They did add quarts half slabs... I'm so flippin excited XD

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Posted Jan 11, 2013
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Separate textures are a bad idea / nuance. Updating texture packs now became a headache. Now you have to open 100 + files to update / change a texture pack. I can see allot of texture packs being discontinued because of this.

You cannot possibly think that this is how it will be handled.

Not really!

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Separate textures are a bad idea / nuance. Updating texture packs now became a headache. Now you have to open 100 + files to update / change a texture pack. I can see allot of texture packs being discontinued because of this.

Yeah, it's such a trauma to open up a folder with 100's of image files...forget about discontinuing texture packs, we'll sure see a lot of suicides because of that.

Once again, the stupidness of the Universe wins over intelligence.

P.D: Sorry for the double post, I forgot to edit

Let me rephrase this a little more. There are allot of people out there who do texture pack work who would prefer the easy way of opening 1 file with all the textures opposed to the new 1 file per texture. With manually having to convert your texture pack taking longer Makers will also have to also deal with all the "Where is the update". "Please update". I'm pretty sure people have discontinued projects before and will do again.

The ONLY thing I don't like is that you have to open individual texture 1 at a time. I have yet to find a editing program where I could open multiple files at once.

After watching a Seth bling video about the update I would have to change my view on this. Finding out that you can actually animate any texture you want with the simple txt file this small Inconvenience just became a advantage.

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Posted Jan 11, 2013
Uhh, this is going to take years to get all the blocks changed over to the new text. pack format.

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Uhh, this is going to take years to get all the blocks changed over to the new text. pack format.

Dinnerbone made a converter ^^

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The Mojang Team should add glass stairs and glass slabs + a Mirrorblock!

I, personally, would love a mirror block *-* Imagine how greatly they could be used in adventure maps! Glass houses would be very nice also! I'd love a glass slab staircase ^^

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Posted Jan 11, 2013
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Why would this hamper HD Textures? This makes it EASIER, by not having to have those TERRIBLE spreadsheets (I have hated them for a long time!), instead you have individual, small files, so having a texture pack that only edits a very small number of items/blocks (say, an armor texture pack! or, just an ores texture pack, etc etc) just got incredibly easy!

Beacuse usually, easier translates to less effort, which translates into worse quality. There are two sides to each coin.

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Either I don't know what you're talking about, or you don't. Possibly both.How could making texture packs simpler, easier, more expandable, and easier to maintain and modify, also signal the end of quality?

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Why would this hamper HD Textures? This makes it EASIER, by not having to have those TERRIBLE spreadsheets (I have hated them for a long time!), instead you have individual, small files, so having a texture pack that only edits a very small number of items/blocks (say, an armor texture pack! or, just an ores texture pack, etc etc) just got incredibly easy!

Yes, it will take a LITTLE bit of adjustment by texture pack creators, but existing texture packs just have to copy+paste their textures into the new individual file system and they will work perfectly fine!

Not exactly "easier" and "simpler". There's something else here other than the individual textures. Yes, you guys don't know what she was talking about (however, she was vague about it with her one-line post, so I can't blame you).

In case you guys don't already know, Misa is a texture pack artist herself who has been developing HD texture pack since Alpha, and she doesn't like the change due to a number of reasons. You should check her thread for the arguments she made about it. And yes, she has used Dinnerbone's converter, but she still hasn't changed her mind about it. As a matter of fact, Kahr himself also don't like the change and is confused as hell about it, so there are probably other HD texture packs hating this, too. It has something to about the individual textures being assembled into a "fake" terrain.png. Can't really mention all of their arguments here, so I'll let you guys check the thread yourselves.

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Posted Jan 12, 2013
Hate the new idea with textures. As Misa said:

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Farewell, good high resolution texture packs.

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