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    posted a message on World Edit block distribution //distr as text.

    Is there a way to get the block distribution list created by //distr to export as a text file or to output to the log files?

    What I'm trying to do is find the approximate distribution of blocks in SkyGrid so I can determine and set relative block values in Essentials worth.yml

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    posted a message on Connecting Minecraft Win 10 to Java Edition servers?
    Quote from TheMasterCaver»

    That has already been done; the current launcher, which was released earlier this year, is a native executable, no doubt written in C++, which is why you don't even need to install Java in order to run it (the bundled runtime is only used by the game itself):

    "No longer requires Java", "interface redesign". Sure sounds like it (I have no idea what Win10 looks like).

    You are correct the launcher is a C++ application. The Win10 version does not actually have a seperate launcher, is just a menu/options screen built directly into the game. The [Play] button allows you to Manage Worlds, Add Friends, and Connect to Servers. Manage Worlds allows you to create your own world and play it as single player or multiplayer, add options like resource packs and behavior packs (plugins maybe?) that you can buy.

    So in just a few mouse clicks you can be up and running with your own server private and invite players to join, including console players. Or you can create a Realms server and make it public or private. The public servers already on the list look remarkably like some of the large Java based servers that host multiple worlds with different server modes and minigames.
    I started playing Minecraft on the XBox MC version equivalent to 1.4 and switched to the PC version after about 6 months. NEW MC players that come from the XBox are unlikely to take that same path, but instead move up to Win10. Where they can still play with their friends, have built in chat, friends list, and many of the benefits of the Java Edition in an easier to use package.

    There was nothing listed under the behavior packs page, so that is likely an indication of things to come. So the original question, will Win10 ever connect to Java Edition? I've changed my mind and say probably not. Will the Java Edition ever connect to Win10 servers? Maybe, but I think it's more likely that the Java Edition will gain Win10 like features as long as MS can see a way to monetize those features.
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    posted a message on Connecting Minecraft Win 10 to Java Edition servers?
    Quote from Herb_»
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    Textbook Microsoft,
    1. Embrace: Development of software substantially compatible with a competing product, or implementing a public standard.
    2. Extend: Addition and promotion of features not supported by the competing product or part of the standard, creating interoperability problems for customers who try to use the 'simple' standard.
    3. Extinguish: When extensions become a de facto standard because of their dominant market share, they marginalize competitors that do not or cannot support the new extensions.
    I copy-pasted that without changing a word. I think it is obvious how bedrock, and its proprietory nature, fits this pattern.
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    I just read the link and want to point out that most of the legal actions pointed to in the document are over a decade old from when Bill Gates was chairman of Microsoft. I make no apologies for the corporate giants bad behaviors, and indeed hope that we are not going to see them repeated. I acknowledge that Embrace and Extend has already happened with the release of the Win10 version. We will have to see if the upcomming wizbang features increase it's market share.

    However, Win10 is currently intimately tied to the Xbox system, requiring a Microsoft account and does not use Mojang's account validation system. Realizing that, I've re-consider how all of this will unfold. Mojang databases would have to be somehow merged into account.microsoft.com. With MS's high concern for security and the ongoing hackability of MC Java, I don't see that happening.

    I may have to change my vote, on that point alone.
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    posted a message on Mojang is adding too much to minecraft
    Quote from TheTux99»

    Message to Mojang! you all are adding too much to Minecraft! 1.13 has too many new textures! changing the crafting tables? really? I also don't like the combat update. I'm sorry, I still love Minecraft, but I'm going to stick with 1.8. those were the good old days.


    Mojang is just doing what it has always done, evolving the game. That is never going to stop. Embrace the change. You will feel better.
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    posted a message on Connecting Minecraft Win 10 to Java Edition servers?

    I agree with a lot of what you said.


    I feel Microsoft is already thinking ahead as to how to monetize the Java version the way it has with the C++ version and that has the potential to bring a lot of good things. Most good things are not free, and I'm ok with that.

    I don't think they are so stupid as to kill all the Java edition servers out there, but I suspect we may see Win10 like features creep into the Java Edition. The new Crafting Table and Observer block is an example of how the console version is already having an impact.


    IMHO the Microsoft effort to unify all the console versions into 1 code base and the push to add "shaders" and other features directly into that code base points to the direction they are taking at Minecraft. I think better integration into the Java Edition is inevitable, and predict that you will see the launcher replaced in the next 18 months with one that has some of the Win10 features and may even be written in C++ instead of Java.

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    posted a message on Connecting Minecraft Win 10 to Java Edition servers?

    Interesting discussion. Some of it I agree with, some, not so much. Minecraft will find a way to make more money on the Java Edition. It's a corporation, it's what they do. That doesn't have to be a bad thing. let me explain.

    Java plugin and module makers are falling by the wayside. They don't really make any money and so over time, they lose interest and move on and there work goes unsupported. The ones that are able to make a few bucks, last longer. In the end only the obsessively passionate and the ones making a living will remain. Whats a player to do? Java edition player can either stay on an older version of Minecraft or give up their mods and plugins to stay current.


    Enter M$. They would like to make money so how do they get DLC into the hands of the Java Edition.
    1. Build content distribution into the Minecraft launcher or game (duplicating the efforts of the the C++ based group) OR
    2. Find a way to make them talk to each other.


    Microsoft does not have to "control" servers to make that happen. They do have to enforce vanilla gameplay when connected to a non PC based game. Vanilla servers are already built into minecraft so you can start a singleplayer world and then invite your xbox friends to play or join there game.

    The C++ players will never be able to play on spigot/bukkit/sponge/bungee or any other non vanilla server, but Java players could play in "vanilla" mode hosting or connected to a console base server if the translation layer were added and the games were all running the same "underlying update".

    They could then make the console content available (DLC) resource packs and maps available and make the $ they need. HardCore players are NEVER going to adopt the Win10 version, but they might be persuaded to play on the console based network.

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    posted a message on KiqsRocks Semi Vanilla PVP, PVE,Land Claim, Survival with Greif Protection & Voting Rewards.

    While there wasn't much lag before, I built and migrated KiqsRocks to a new Dell rack server, capable of running multiple minecraft servers on the same machine. It's a beast. What does that mean to you? It means a better gaming experience and lets us add more playing options in the near future.

    Come join a great growing community and build something amazing.

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    posted a message on Connecting Minecraft Win 10 to Java Edition servers?

    The fact that the game engines are different is not an impediment to online compatibility; Ford's and Toyota's have different engines, but both are able to use the road. The underlying communication protocols are different, so, there and would need to be a translation layer added.


    Microsoft would have to have an $ incentive $ to make that happen. I would argue that the huge Java base is a large untapped market that could be opened up with such a translation layer.


    MS/Mojang needs to find a way to add some of the new console content to the Java edition. A couple million people might pay $1 each for optional texture packs and pre-built maps. Content they have already created and have been selling for a few years now.

    I know it would be difficult, but they have the resources to do it if they can find the right motivation.

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    posted a message on Mojang is adding too much to minecraft

    Short Answer: NO.


    Long Answer: Minecraft has been changing every few months for 8 years now. Without change, it would have faded long ago. The biggest changes to the game aren't even happening inside the PC / Java version at all.

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    posted a message on Connecting Minecraft Win 10 to Java Edition servers?

    If you haven't run the Win 10 version lately, maybe you should take a look. This is the unified "Better Together" version and there's a LOT going on here that Java Edition players may not be aware of.

    The only thing keeping them from being able to connect is the will power to make it happen. So what do you think?

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    posted a message on What are your guys opinion of the rebranding of PC Minecraft to "Minecraft: Java Edition"?
    Quote from ItsSuperNova»

    Basically the title. You can vote in the polls, and express your beliefs in the comments to much more detail. My personal opinion is that I don't like it, because PC is the original, and it should stay that way. It would be better if the PE, Console, and Win 10 Editions were rebranded to the "Better Together Edition." However, it's Mojang's decision, and we have to accept that.


    I also should mention that PC is not dead/dying. The developers for Bedrock Edition and PC are different, so PC is not dying, it just won't be in the spotlight as much anymore.


    First, This is about Money (that's not necessarily a bad thing) ; let me explain.

    Every version of Minecraft that is not the Java Edition is written in C+. The language that Microsoft uses for nearly everything.

    Java's original reason for existing is that it was cross platform compatible. Microsoft has proved that C+ is equally cross platform compatible, especially now that they have worked so hard to unify the code base so the same version is running everywhere... except... on the PC. But wait they have the Windows 10 version too. Why do you think that is?

    They have announced that an upcoming version of the C edition will have basicly a built in shader (moving water, reflections, shadows, wind). Microsoft Studios has enormous experience with 3D rendering engines. When you consider that then 1.12.x Java edition STILL has lighting bugs after all these years, you have to see where this is headed.

    The Xbox version has always lagged more than a year behind the PC version, Now with unified C+ source code in hand that is no longer true and features have begun to show up there first.

    I think the guys at Mojang would be justified in being a little worried except for the Java player base is so huge. However, mod development by third parties developers have fallen off dramatically since 1.8. Even though it's taking very little time for Servers like Spigot and Sponge to issued new versions now, many of our favorite plugins have been abandoned by the authors. People just won't work for free forever. The Community is still great but it's not what it was. I promise, Microsoft sees this trend too.

    The branding of the PC version as the Java Edition, is to distinguish it from the Windows 10 C+ Edition.(Soon to be rebranded too) It's the one that lets you play on a PC with your XBox and Playstation friends. Microsoft is providing downloadable content (like every other game in the world) some free, some for a modest charge. If you can make a texture pack and charge 1$ to a Million users, that's gravy man like 98% profit. It's been hard for the Java Edition to monetize the game in this way.

    Like I said, this is about Money. MS has to make back that 2 billion dollars somehow and converting Java Edition players to Win 10 players seems like a logical way to do that. Some day soon, the Java edition will be playing catch up to a really good C+ version with built in voice channels, better rendering engine and graphics, fewer bugs and an array of cheap add on content.
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    posted a message on Is 1.13 going to change all the textures to a higher res?
    Quote from Lord_Garak»

    That is not what I said. I said endstone is a good looking block. However, the 16x16 nature of Minecraft inherently makes everything ugly. Faithful just changes it to 32x32 for the most part, and thus makes the game look much better without doing much.

    I don't hate JAPPA for attempting this. I think he doesn't have enough respect for what the game is supposed to be, and automatically assumes he is correct that every texture must go, and that everything must look smooth and plastic. Almost like some generic kiddie movie villain. He has good intentions, but the way he is going about them and his results, along with the wave of criticism at least the same size as the amount of people who think this these textures are good, must be taken at face value.

    As for the cobble: there's too much contrast (along with everything he makes), the color is too blue, the stones are too small and too asymmetrical. Quoting reddit, it looks like dragon scales. Cobble should be big, blocky, and rough; like an English stone wall.

    Faithful is not Minecraft. your statement is self contradictory. You can not say you like endstone because you like it another texture pack. This discussion is about the 16 bit Minecraft textures which you say is ugly. I guess we will have to agree to disagree, but I IMHO, comparisons with ANY textures that are not 16 x 16 are pointless. At 32 x 32 he would have have 4 times the number of pixels to work with.

    "Almost like some generic kiddie movie villain." again not helpful.

    Lastly, your critique of the cobble is much better expressed and points out what you object to in a constructive way. It's much clearer what you don't like about it and I completely agree with you.
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    posted a message on Is 1.13 going to change all the textures to a higher res?
    Quote from Lord_Garak»

    I see plenty of people use endstone. I like it.

    Personally I think vanilla is ugly, but because of the 16x16 nature, not the textures themselves. Faithful looks fine.


    You like endstone, but you think it ugly? Faithful looks fine? I'm sorry, but that makes no sense. If you're saying people use endstone because it looks good in Faithful, then you completely missed the point. I've never seen an epic build anywhere that used endstone as the primary material. I'm sure you can find one if you look, but there's a reason you would have to look hard to find it and not just stumble upon it.

    Also and I'm trying hard not to make this personal, but if you're not planning on using vanilla Minecraft textures, why do you feel the need to personally disparage they guy working on them, JAPPA. Everybody agrees some of the textures are bad, but no one agrees on which ones.

    It's not going to be possible to make everyone happy. It takes a pretty brave soul to even try this. Can we try to offer constructive criticism, and specific helpful suggestions instead?

    For example: you stay, "This is hideous. I mean, really, really hideous." is completely unhelpful. Instead, say what you object to, and how it could be corrected.

    A comment like this might be more useful to the guy.
    I think the Cobble looks like... well Cobble, the rounded pavement stones used for streets long ago. It would look good as a road material. Unfortunately, it does not work well as a building material. I would suggest making the "stones" larger with less dark material in between.

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    posted a message on Is 1.13 going to change all the textures to a higher res?

    Thank the gods. No-one on my server uses the default texture. After using a good resource pack for a while, going back to vanilla is shocking how bad some of the textures really are.

    Endstone is one of the ugliest textures in the game. Literally NO ONE builds with it. If they could make it look like Stucco, it would not change the end much at all but would provide something we could actually build with.

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    posted a message on KiqsRocks Semi Vanilla PVP, PVE,Land Claim, Survival with Greif Protection & Voting Rewards.

    Suffered a 12 hour power outage due to hurricane Irma, But were back online and working on a massive hardware upgrade.

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