I wish people would realize that FPS has NOTHING to do with lag.
In a new world I made specifically for this purpose both 1.7 and 1.8 showed the same FPS (82 / 83) but the 1.8 world was lagging so bad I could see the edge of the ocean and the hidden stuff underneath (whereas in 1.7 every chunk that I had not visited was rendering in a perfect circular area in front of me).
As I flew around in creative it got worse in 1.8 while 1.7 was fine - but the frame rates were overall the same.
FPS does have a lot to do with lag, so does chunk loading lag, but FPS is lag as well.
Well, one time Mojang literally asked Optifine if they could add the whole Optifine software into vanilla. The Optifine developer denied their request.
I don't see a problem with that. They asked, they would have worked with the author to implement it. He said no, they didn't add it in. Now they're writing their own optimizations. Tell me, is that stealing from optifine?
What rubs me the wrong way about 1.8 is that they were determined to put out a polished update, and that is partly what attributes to the long dev time, but they are now in the pre-release phase, 5 days or so from release but we still got messed up mob AI, partly broken glowstone generation in the nether, furnace minecarts with inconsistent physics, and then of course countless classic bugs that they for some reason refuse to address, like spiders' and ghasts' incorrect hitboxes, boats practically unusable, XP orbs floating around you but not getting picked up, sometimes consuming two food items at once, enchanted tools and weapons breaking some times magically return with a single-digit durability, mobs getting stuck at fence corners, mobs glitching into blocks and suffocate or escape, mobs sinking into the ground (Knockback enchantment does this some times as well)...
But hey, we got armour stands! And coloured beacon beams! Yay!
If you understood how coding works, you wouldn't be saying that.
As the old saying goes....
99 little bugs in the code, 99 little bugs
Take one down, patch it around
127 little bugs in the code
Fixing bugs creates bugs, adding new content creates bugs, a lot of things make bugs and they can't fix all of them.
Don't forget the horses. Mo' Creatures horses weren't even that good, but Mojang used them any way.
Why not just, I don't know, use a better horse or make your own? You're a million-dollar professional and popular game developing company, and Minecraft is really the only thing you have going. And yet, you're too lazy to make your own dang horses.Why make their own horses? Mo' Creatures is a good mod made by a good coder, why not recognize that coders ability and creation. Besides, that's the best kind of horse you can make. I can't see how they could get better except maybe making breeding for stats a bit easier
They literally just retextured the Armor Stand and made it an entity. Making it an entity means that it's laggy, it can get pushed around/glitched and it doesn't fit in with the rest of the blocks in-game.No....they made a whole new model and texture AND code for it. Making it an entity means it's laggy if you have a ridiculous number of them. I have a cow farm with over 350 cows in it at the moment, and it barely lags me on a server at all. They want it to be an entity because entities can do so much more than be plopped down. They can be moved around (armor stand switcher), posed, and it is easier for command blocks to make creations with them.
We're just a minority. Mojang won't listen to us, and we should really come to terms with that. Mojang knows we're not going to want any of this stuff, but little kids who listen to the godawful Minecraft Parodies and/or don't have Minecraft are, and then they're going to realize first-hand how bad this game actually is.Thank God, the day Mojang listens to a whining 12 year old on the unofficial forums is the day I quit minecraft.
There are plenty of design flaws in Minecraft that they refuse to fix for absolutely no reason, like most mobs only having one attack - which is ram into you like a toddler playing football.The only mob that does that is the zombie, and they have plenty of other tactics as well, such as spawning reinforcements, dropping on top of your head, or calling their allies from 70 blocks away
1.8 isn't the MASSIVE update we all wanted, Mojang just won't appeal to these people any more (or should I say, they won't appeal to US any more). They will continue to make the game worse and worse for us to make it appeal to the people who like seeing Beacon rainbows (Translation: Children ages 6-10) At least it gave us some overhauls...that only made the game lag even more.Dear lord what do you want?? You're infuriated by a simple change with coloured beacons, you're angry that that is in the game because you don't want to use it. Honestly, grow up, and learn to deal with things that you don't like. You haven't even really given any ideas of what you want in this game (other than better combat, horses that would be the exact same but made only by mojang, armor stands to be a direct ripoff of bibliocraft instead of being their own, more powerful item. Oh and don't let me forget, you also don't want coloured beacons or anything that a player aged 6-10 would want.
But, hey, look at the bright side - Mod "Support" is coming back, so you can always mod the game to make it better.
Heck, that's the only reason I got Minecraft. Nothing else really appealed to me, heck some things actually irked me like the combat. What I mean by "Combat" is "Classic Mindless Button Masher."
Seriously, though Mojang. If you're going to have an entire spot dedicated to modding on your forum, add some dang Mod Support so we don't have to wait for modmakers to partake in the tedious task of updating their mods to another version.Not their forum. And if you understood how modding works at all you probably wouldn't be saying that. Modding in Minecraft isn't like other games, modding in minecraft requires you to actually take apart mojang's code and add in your own. This tends to break mods when the original code is changed. Mojang IS adding mod support, and we have plenty of people in our community helping too. Like the people at forge or MCP.
That would be a wait worth a year.
I don't get the armor stands, could someone explain to me why we would need them?
What I want to see in an update is new, better and more biomes and mobs, vertical slabs and more slabs and stair type blocks. Want glass half slab so bad!
We don't need armor stands, just like we don't need new door types or fence types. They're cool to have and you can do a lot of powerful things with them. Why do we need more biomes? Why do we need more mobs? We don't. Everyone asks for more mobs and more biomes but we get new mobs every SINGLE update (almost without fail), and we just had a massive biome overhaul.
but you can't deny that 2014 was the least productive year in Minecraft.
Well it's a good thing that Mojang doesn't have to present each update to you on a silver platter every month. "Productivity" is in the eye of the beholder. If you asked any Mojang employee they would say they got a lot done, like completely reworking inner game systems. But if you ask the average forumer (you) all you get is THERE AREN'T ENOUGH FEATURES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
3. Dig big channels inside the chunk and let them fill with water, also dig a 1 block tall area underneath the chunk and let that fill with water. This way, the entire chunk is surrounded by water
4. Build a base inside said chunk.
Make sure you have source blocks of water along the sides, otherwise they can cut off the water from the top and tnt their way in.
The single chunk base allows you to reserve more space for claiming raided bases
The option to do that is only in 1.7 onwards. The original post is over two years old so the version the OP was using wouldn't have had that option. I have the same issue with 1.6.4 as I play mods in it, and the fact you cannot disable the ambiance is a huge nuisance. Utterly worthless noise, IMO, as it doesn't relate to the game world environment in any organic way so it takes you out of your immersion in the game. It's what professionals who work in vg audio would call "a really dumb idea". But this is because in the beginning they got an low-talent amateur to do MC's audio and I guess that even though they're about to hit 50 million sales worldwide, they refuse to replace him and get someone who can improve the audio environment in MC to the level it ought to be because he's a "friend" or whatever. Bros before quality! But yeah, they finally decided to give us an option, very late, to just turn that garbage off, although it's not any use to those of us who still use older versions for one reason or another.
"Low talent amateur"
And what, you're a professional sound technician? Give me a break. C419 is a very good composer in my opinion, and I think all this hate you have is just because you don't like his style.
For instance, I am not a fan of One Direction, but does that mean they're bad musicians? No.
And don't give me the "I'm using a later version so I can't use that feature" crap. No kidding you can't use that! You also can't use sticky slime blocks, the new stone types, the new water blocks, the new bunnies, or the new door types. That is one of the caveats of playing modded minecraft. You knew you wouldn't be able to use 1.7 or 1.8 features when you started playing 1.6 modded, so don't complain about it now.
I feel like this is far too complex. Having a system where villagers actually have a physically limited supply of items just makes it too complicated to keep them stocked and prevent accidental exhaustion of materials. The current infinite supply system that we use now suffices.
Nice Guide very helpful i know i'm posting this like 2 years too late but is everything updated for 1.61.7/1.8 if not update it because i think some xp drops from mobs have changed like don't endermen drop more xp i dunno but check plz and good work on the guide
Thanks! I hope the guide has helped.
Nope, experience drops haven't changed in 1.8 so far, but I will be updating it because the f3 menu has changed it's layout a little bit more. I might also add in a few useful statistics and probably make the layout easier to read.
I think Scum means that he named it, put all possible enchantments on it and such so that people could get an idea of repair cost the first time around for a maxed out pair of boots- not that he thought naming it would stabilize repairs.
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FPS does have a lot to do with lag, so does chunk loading lag, but FPS is lag as well.
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No, you're just butthurt that people like 1.8 better than 1.7 and that you are a minority.
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I don't see a problem with that. They asked, they would have worked with the author to implement it. He said no, they didn't add it in. Now they're writing their own optimizations. Tell me, is that stealing from optifine?
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If you understood how coding works, you wouldn't be saying that.
As the old saying goes....
99 little bugs in the code, 99 little bugs
Take one down, patch it around
127 little bugs in the code
Fixing bugs creates bugs, adding new content creates bugs, a lot of things make bugs and they can't fix all of them.
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We don't need armor stands, just like we don't need new door types or fence types. They're cool to have and you can do a lot of powerful things with them. Why do we need more biomes? Why do we need more mobs? We don't. Everyone asks for more mobs and more biomes but we get new mobs every SINGLE update (almost without fail), and we just had a massive biome overhaul.
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Well it's a good thing that Mojang doesn't have to present each update to you on a silver platter every month. "Productivity" is in the eye of the beholder. If you asked any Mojang employee they would say they got a lot done, like completely reworking inner game systems. But if you ask the average forumer (you) all you get is THERE AREN'T ENOUGH FEATURES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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1. Find a chunk in a lake near land.
2. Claim a chunk of lake
3. Dig big channels inside the chunk and let them fill with water, also dig a 1 block tall area underneath the chunk and let that fill with water. This way, the entire chunk is surrounded by water
4. Build a base inside said chunk.
Make sure you have source blocks of water along the sides, otherwise they can cut off the water from the top and tnt their way in.
The single chunk base allows you to reserve more space for claiming raided bases
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"Low talent amateur"
And what, you're a professional sound technician? Give me a break. C419 is a very good composer in my opinion, and I think all this hate you have is just because you don't like his style.
For instance, I am not a fan of One Direction, but does that mean they're bad musicians? No.
And don't give me the "I'm using a later version so I can't use that feature" crap. No kidding you can't use that! You also can't use sticky slime blocks, the new stone types, the new water blocks, the new bunnies, or the new door types. That is one of the caveats of playing modded minecraft. You knew you wouldn't be able to use 1.7 or 1.8 features when you started playing 1.6 modded, so don't complain about it now.
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Thanks! I hope the guide has helped.
Nope, experience drops haven't changed in 1.8 so far, but I will be updating it because the f3 menu has changed it's layout a little bit more. I might also add in a few useful statistics and probably make the layout easier to read.
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You got it.
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