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For me personally... Old villagers: 4 out of 10. New villagers: 8 out of 10. And I expect that score to go up significantly with the 1.14.4 snapshot, which looks to fix some major bugs.

I should mention that I started a new world in 1.14.3. I understand that somebody coming from 1.13- might be frustrated, but personally, I have never understood the logic of upgrading existing worlds to new major updates. Keep them in their old versions, and when you want to play with new versions, start a new world. It ALWAYS works out better that way. That's not unique to the 1.14 update.

Here's why I love the new system (or will, when the bugs of 1.14.3 get worked out):

First, a bit about how I like to play the game: I like farms. I like automation, but I'm also ok with doing things manually. I like playing singleplayer survival, mostly in Peaceful mode, and mostly cheatless. I like it when resources require some work (at least initially), but I don't like it when they're not renewable (it's just a pet peeve of mine). And I don't like wasting anything. Literally, ANYTHING (dirt, seeds, etc.). So this update seems custom tailored to make me celebrate.

1) Iron farms are actually quite a bit simpler, and can be used for trading as well. I've got a nice, simple iron farm (developed by Avomance). It works fine for my needs. (I should mention that there were some issues with the Avomance farm, but that's because a) I initially built it NOT up in the air, which was a mistake, and b.) there are villager breeding bugs in 1.14.3 that it appears will be fixed in 1.14.4, that I cheated a bit to get around). And, like I said, it doubles as a trading farm (it's got 16 farmers, and 4 armorers, all in a single, easily-accessible space).

If you need a TangoTek-level huge iron farm that yields a double-chest of iron blocks an hour... the fact that they don't exist YET doesn't necessarily mean they can't exist EVER. They do take a lot of time and work for somebody to invent.

2) While trading is currently too limited, in terms of the number of trades a villager can make before having to refresh (another thing that looks to be fixed in 1.14.4), I do like the new system, where they can, and need to, refresh their trades twice a day. In the old system, even with trading multiple things at a time, there was always a risk of all useful trades getting locked, and then they were locked forever. The fact that trades are locked for, at most, a day, is a major plus.

3) In general, the trades are SO much more useful now! Previously, the only diamond gear I could get from trading were breastplates, swords, axes, and picks (and I always had to get 2 to combine to remove the enchantments... more on that later). Now, I can get diamond everything from trading, which means less worry about wasting nonrenewable diamonds. Fish (from my fish farm - yes, I do automatic fishing - please no hate ) don't go to waste anymore. If I wanted to, I could sell beetroot (previously a totally useless vegetable, especially on Peaceful). I can sell beef now, which in Peaceful, is an unwanted byproduct of getting leather (it was always a pet peeve of mine that, in older versions, butchers bought everything EXCEPT beef). The list goes on and on. And that's not even counting wandering villagers, which sometimes sell coral (an otherwise nonrenewable resource).

4) I love that I can basically dictate a villager's profession, instead of just having to accept that my village is overrun with shepherds and butchers. And not only that, but I can also dictate the villager's trades (at least on the first level).

5) Not exactly a change with the villagers themselves, but I love love love love LOVE the new job site blocks, especially the grindstone and composter! No more having to waste excess seeds, poppies, and saplings... now they can be put to good use. No more having to buy two enchanted tools to turn into one unenchanted tool... now I can just stick one in the grindstone to remove the junk enchantment. No more having to throw out junk enchanted books and excess bows and fishing rods from fishing... now they can be turned into xp(!!!) and reused. Enchanted books become regular books (which can then either be traded or become bookshelves), bows can be combined to make repaired bows and used in dispensers (since string is difficult in Peaceful), and rods can be used as fuel. Love it, love it, love it.

6) Minor point, but just in general, I like the fact that villagers work on a schedule now. Makes them seem less like machines and more like actual people.

So, yeah. Overall, a very positive change.

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Yeah. Saddles were kinda intended to be a rare thing, only rewarded to brave warriors and explorers.

And patient fishermen. I have a double-chest of them in my other world.

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with 1-2 blocks missing so they don't pull in players coming from the overworld--portals which when finished and lit will take the player to a place of interest in the overworld, such as a dungeon.

That would require coordinating the locations of nether fortresses with the locations of dungeons in the Overworld. Other than that, sounds like a cool idea.

Just reading the original post... it looks like the OP is suffering from ennui. Ennui that's being blamed on the game or on other players, instead of on natural human psychology.

It sounds like you're bored and exhausted with Minecraft. Speaking from vast experience, that's just something that happens when you immerse yourself in the same thing for a very long time. It will happen to me too, eventually... it just hasn't yet because I only started playing about 3 months ago. It would happen with anything you immerse yourself in for a long time. Time to find something else. Or at least, as Azayleea mentioned, take a break from it.

...not craftable... farmable.

So, I realize that packed ice is difficult to obtain and that's on purpose, and that's fine. It's valuable; it should be hard to obtain. But this leads to a major problem in that, in making it difficult to obtain, it's also not renewable, which means that we have to destroy entire biomes in order to get packed ice in any quantity.

So I was wondering if it might be possible to have it both ways - have packed ice be difficult to obtain, and you still have to find an ice spikes biome, but still have it be a renewable (if a bit painstaking) resource.

I'm thinking... have a technique where you put a packed ice block on top of a regular ice block, and one Minecraft day later, you have two packed ice blocks (one on top of the other)? So you'd need packed ice to start with (still need to find an ice spikes biome), AND an ice farm, AND patience? But, on the plus side, it would be renewable.

[Edit June 16:

Thanks for the support (of the premise, at least!) Those who expressed reservations about the execution are probably right... in retrospect, perhaps it would be better (more accurate to reality, as well as more practical in the game) to have it work more like: put packed ice on top of a snow block, and (maybe) have that snow block be on top of another packed ice. Wait a minecraft day, and you have two (or three, if it required two packed ice to start) packed ice, all piled up on top of each other? Packed ice comes more from snow IRL anyway, and this way it would be farmable in any biome that also supports snow farming (but, again, it would require packed ice to start with). That may be a better way?]

Can you clean just first slot? I was googling around how to reset Villager inventory, but this was only post that gives anything usable.

Problem is that my carrot farmer (enclosed in 9x9 walled area) somehow managed to switch from carrots to wheat.

EDIT:
Found the source comand: replaceitem entity <selector> <slot> <item> [amount]

So to clear 2nd slot should be:

/replaceitem entity @e[type=minecraft:villager,sort=nearest] villager.0 air

3rd slot

/replaceitem entity @e[type=minecraft:villager,sort=nearest] villager.2 air

add limit=1 to erase only one nearest villagers inventory.

and so on... Villagers have 8 slots so from villager.0 to villager.7

I can't speak for how the new villagers are exploitable, (I don't 'farm' the game), but I do think the new villagers are much, much more playable now. Unlocking tier 1 can still be a challenge if you get a bad first trade option. And yes there remains some teething issues with the code. But overall I'm making MUCH more money from villagers now than I did before, (again, this is 'playing' with the villagers, not 'farming' them). I can now earn emeralds from sticks and stone, how cool is that? Andesite, the ugliest stone in the game, is now a commodity. I now have a reason to go on squid hunts. The new villagers are vastly more interesting than before.

The more I play 1.14, the more I like the new villagers.

The increased number of trades necessary to unlock higher levels was initially a turn off but I like the challenge it presents.

The random trades per tier was initially a big turnoff, especially if you get a villager with a particularly difficult or useless set of first trades. But then I figured out it's very easy to reset the villager to 'unemployed' then recast them again simply by removing and replacing their job site. Not much different, and a whole lot more savory, than killing and breeding to get what you want.

I really like the ease of creating the exact villager I want. Don't have a Librarian? Place a Lectern. Brilliant! Breeding, killing, breeding, killing, over and over while waiting for the one profession I wanted was always I major nuisance.

The trade cap is moderately annoying but it clearly illustrates how easy some trades were/are relative to others. I can easily live with the new limits and accept the challenge to go out and find the resources needed to make a trade and earn some emeralds. Besides, I usually am emerald rich by mid game so I don't really see the caps as creating any real limitation.

I could care less about resource farms and other exploits, though I do think such exploits are virtually inherent considering the scope and depth of the game. At a guess, I'm sure someone will figure out how to exploit the new villager mechanics, perhaps to even greater gain than before. Consider it a challenge to figure out how it can be done. On the other hand, for those who simply copy other's farm design, well, it may be a bit of wait before new farm mechanics are revealed for exploitation. Sit back, relax and enjoy the game experience.

I think they're definitely worth dealing with, and that, if anything, what is really bad is the bizarre feature of randomly chosen trade offers, if only because it results in weird situations such as fletchers not selling arrows (Althrough the exact example of farmers not buying carrots and potatoes at the same time is actually wrong). On top of that, the Fisherman's dumb "An emerald and raw fish for cooked fish" offer not only still efists, but now also has a Salmon-based variant.
Particularly annoying, though, is that the bad detection range seems wonky, and results in them claiming beds that they theorically can't even see or access, and that the current Iron Golem spawning mechanics are... wonky. And by "Wonky", I mean "The game is determined to give each Villager their personal bodyguard". Then again, that's just free iron and help in case of a Raid.
As for things like needing a workstation, a bed and space, I actually consider that to be balancing them, as before, it was just plain ridiculously easy to get a big village with lots of trades: Just put a lot of doors, have a farm plot, and a farmer with any other villager; which would, in a few days, result in villagers breeding of their own accord and more or less quickly letting you get very expensive things (Such as some diamond gear, Lapis Lazuli, Glowstone, and Redstone) for essentially the cost of a lot of wood, building materials (And villagers aren't picky in that regard) and a hoe (And seeds, too), and some source of cheap matrials, such as sugar cane, crops, or livestock. In fact, I'm surprised that the new workstations are so cheap, considering that they quickly tend to pay off.
As for resetting villagers, they now have to resupply at their workstations. The old way doesn't seem to even exist anymore.
Now, as for the iron farms, I personally think that they were more or less a side effect, althrough I very much doubt it'll take long for new designs to appear of decent output. Then again, they'd be more reasonable of the Iron Golem spawning mechanics actually made sense (For starters, they could spawn in a radius around the ACTUAL GATHERING SITE, instead of basically having them spawn within a radius of a random Villager, and the bizarre hitbox involved also needs to be fixed so they stop clipping into the ground).
In general, I'd say that the update has succeeded in making Villagers more lively and balanced, althrough with the caveat of having added quite a few annoying and poorly thought-out mechanics, such as the new Iron Golem spawning mechanics, and the combination of resupplying at workstations, doing so only twice per day, AND resting for the night. In the former case, the aforementioned "Spawn if close to the gathering spot" suggestion above would work, and for the latter, a much better way to limit the amount of trades per day would have been to simply make Villagers trade only when they're at "work", but never lock their offers.

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That wouldn't work well. If you had the ability of placing bottles on blocks, you would have to look up to the sky to drink it, or else you would end up placing the bottle in a block; in this case, if you are outside. The only thing I can think that could fix this is having separate keys to place blocks and consume items.

Maybe shift + right click to place bottles on blocks. Similar to how you can place torches on crafting tables.

Allow us to combine bonemeal with colored wool to make it turn white. Very simple, very easy.

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The seed fuel doesn't sound very effective, and wouldn't really last long even if you had a stack. Not necessarly hating the suggestion, but it just doesn't seem as effective as any other fuel.

I have better solution. I said it before and say it again - seed bales item/block (with 64 seeds). It serves 2 purposes: compact storage of seeds and one more decorative item for farms, stables, granaries, etc.

I have a simple suggestion. Really simple. Let us use seeds as fuel. They would last a tenth of an operation, so they wouldn't be very good fuel, but they would then not overpopulate chests. And since realism =/= gameplay and lava buckets can be destroyed by, you guessed it, lava AND the player has the ability to respawn after death, I think seed fuel would make sense. Minecraft sense.

Perhaps it's lost it's magic because you've been playing too much. Take a break from Minecraft. Maybe then the game will become more enjoyable.

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While minecraft has expanded. I think its time to call out something.

Minecraft is still very well alive and probably will for another 4 years. then die out like other big games.

But, the magic is gone. I've played the crap out of the game. Is it because of how mainstream it is?

Is it because of how many players seem to be preteens? Because it sure wasn't like that when I joined.

I'm not gonna try to complain like an old man. but dang has it changed alot. I can't even play my old alpha maps without it looking bland for some odd reason. (and yes I did play alpha for a long time. no real big community is around the old minecraft either way)

But, Is it nostalgia or what? I feel as if alot of minecraft youtubers and players are little to no uniqueness like they used to.

Now its just minigames, pvp/jail/faction, youtube.

Its just. Back then you didn't have just minecraft forums you had somethingawful etc.

Sorry that its one of THOSE threads again. I've tried mods and not playing for a while but the magic never came back.

Anyone else feel frusterated like me?

In the words of the SEUS author, what you're longing for is that thrill of exploring a completely unknown, unexpected and, at the time, gorgeously random world. You long to open the game back up and find out that punching wood is just the start, the night is truly to be feared (the hard way), you long to discover the game over again. But, you can't. It's the truth, it's sad, but it's the truth. That's for you.

The community as a whole on the other hand isn't dying out, just getting bigger and bigger and the unoriginal portions of it are getting louder and louder. There's multitudes of servers that are just the same as they were back in the Beta days; pure survival, little-to-no rules or plugins, no kits, no minigames, no creative, no contests and competitions, just pure survival with a small group of friends.