I have loved this mod ever since i saw it in a sky factory with ssundee. Ive been wanting to play it for a while ever since i saw it. How's the work on 1.8 going? no rush though, you're doing great!
if you have any alphas for the mod, please post them
It's going well.
I'll let everyone know the instant I have something playable.
It's a miracle from Sanae herself that your Kickstarter is failing. Maybe (for the sake of your life?) you should close the campaign, refund everyone who contributed, and pray that you finish your mod before your savings run out. I probably will not play with your mod, and definitely will not if this crowdfunding rubbish continues.
Modding is changing, friend. Don't like it? Make your own mod and give it away.
About the refunds, no one was ever charged. If I don't reach my goal, then I get nothing. That is part of the reason why I chose Kickstarter. Your toxic attitude is not very conducive to a creative process, so would you please never come back to a thread of mine? Thanks cupcake.
The sieve got a problem with sand and all mods enabled (Ores, Seeds, Thaumcraft, AM2, AE2). All recipes together need 20 internal buffer for all mats for sand. The maximum availible internal space was 18 (got from NEI). If you use sand on this condition the client crashed.
Could you create an issue for Insaneau to look at? Ex Astris is a seperate mod so it's really his concern anyway.
There appears to be a compatibility issue with Ex Nihilo and Forestry.
---- Minecraft Crash Report ----
// Oh - I know what I did wrong!
Time: 25.04.15 22:07
Description: There was a severe problem during mod loading that has caused the game to fail
cpw.mods.fml.common.LoaderException: java.lang.NoClassDefFoundError: forestry/apiculture/FlowerProviderVanilla
at cpw.mods.fml.common.LoadController.transition(LoadController.java:162)
at cpw.mods.fml.common.Loader.initializeMods(Loader.java:695)
at cpw.mods.fml.client.FMLClientHandler.finishMinecraftLoading(FMLClientHandler.java:288)
at net.minecraft.client.Minecraft.func_71384_a(Minecraft.java:541)
at net.minecraft.client.Minecraft.func_99999_d(Minecraft.java:867)
at net.minecraft.client.main.Main.main(SourceFile:148)
at sun.reflect.NativeMethodAccessorImpl.invoke0(Native Method)
at sun.reflect.NativeMethodAccessorImpl.invoke(Unknown Source)
at sun.reflect.DelegatingMethodAccessorImpl.invoke(Unknown Source)
at java.lang.reflect.Method.invoke(Unknown Source)
at net.minecraft.launchwrapper.Launch.launch(Launch.java:135)
at net.minecraft.launchwrapper.Launch.main(Launch.java:28)
Caused by: java.lang.NoClassDefFoundError: forestry/apiculture/FlowerProviderVanilla
at exnihilo.compatibility.foresty.HiveRegistry.<clinit>(HiveRegistry.java:25)
at exnihilo.compatibility.foresty.Forestry.loadCompatibility(Forestry.java:28)
at exnihilo.ExNihilo.PostInitialize(ExNihilo.java:132)
at sun.reflect.NativeMethodAccessorImpl.invoke0(Native Method)
at sun.reflect.NativeMethodAccessorImpl.invoke(Unknown Source)
at sun.reflect.DelegatingMethodAccessorImpl.invoke(Unknown Source)
at java.lang.reflect.Method.invoke(Unknown Source)
at cpw.mods.fml.common.FMLModContainer.handleModStateEvent(FMLModContainer.java:513)
at sun.reflect.GeneratedMethodAccessor3.invoke(Unknown Source)
at sun.reflect.DelegatingMethodAccessorImpl.invoke(Unknown Source)
at java.lang.reflect.Method.invoke(Unknown Source)
at com.google.common.eventbus.EventSubscriber.handleEvent(EventSubscriber.java:74)
at com.google.common.eventbus.SynchronizedEventSubscriber.handleEvent(SynchronizedEventSubscriber.java:47)
at com.google.common.eventbus.EventBus.dispatch(EventBus.java:322)
at com.google.common.eventbus.EventBus.dispatchQueuedEvents(EventBus.java:304)
at com.google.common.eventbus.EventBus.post(EventBus.java:275)
at cpw.mods.fml.common.LoadController.sendEventToModContainer(LoadController.java:208)
at cpw.mods.fml.common.LoadController.propogateStateMessage(LoadController.java:187)
at sun.reflect.NativeMethodAccessorImpl.invoke0(Native Method)
at sun.reflect.NativeMethodAccessorImpl.invoke(Unknown Source)
at sun.reflect.DelegatingMethodAccessorImpl.invoke(Unknown Source)
at java.lang.reflect.Method.invoke(Unknown Source)
at com.google.common.eventbus.EventSubscriber.handleEvent(EventSubscriber.java:74)
at com.google.common.eventbus.SynchronizedEventSubscriber.handleEvent(SynchronizedEventSubscriber.java:47)
at com.google.common.eventbus.EventBus.dispatch(EventBus.java:322)
at com.google.common.eventbus.EventBus.dispatchQueuedEvents(EventBus.java:304)
at com.google.common.eventbus.EventBus.post(EventBus.java:275)
at cpw.mods.fml.common.LoadController.distributeStateMessage(LoadController.java:118)
at cpw.mods.fml.common.Loader.initializeMods(Loader.java:694)
... 10 more
Caused by: java.lang.ClassNotFoundException: forestry.apiculture.FlowerProviderVanilla
at net.minecraft.launchwrapper.LaunchClassLoader.findClass(LaunchClassLoader.java:191)
at java.lang.ClassLoader.loadClass(Unknown Source)
at java.lang.ClassLoader.loadClass(Unknown Source)
... 39 more
Caused by: java.lang.NullPointerException
A detailed walkthrough of the error, its code path and all known details is as follows:
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Hey just had a crash on your most recent stable version 1.37 and Forestry. It seems to be the same issue with flower generation that one of your previous users posted on this thread. I've reverted back to 1.34 and everything works fine, just wanted to let you know for future updates. Any tips would also be appreciated as I'm kinda new to the mod editing aspect
---- Minecraft Crash Report ----
// I bet Cylons wouldn't have this problem.
Time: 4/15/15 11:46 PM
Description: There was a severe problem during mod loading that has caused the game to fail
cpw.mods.fml.common.LoaderException: java.lang.NoClassDefFoundError: forestry/apiculture/FlowerProviderVanilla
at cpw.mods.fml.common.LoadController.transition(LoadController.java:162)
at cpw.mods.fml.common.Loader.initializeMods(Loader.java:695)
at cpw.mods.fml.client.FMLClientHandler.finishMinecraftLoading(FMLClientHandler.java:299)
at net.minecraft.client.Minecraft.func_71384_a(Minecraft.java:541)
at net.minecraft.client.Minecraft.func_99999_d(Minecraft.java:867)
at net.minecraft.client.main.Main.main(SourceFile:148)
at sun.reflect.NativeMethodAccessorImpl.invoke0(Native Method)
at sun.reflect.NativeMethodAccessorImpl.invoke(NativeMethodAccessorImpl.java:62)
at sun.reflect.DelegatingMethodAccessorImpl.invoke(DelegatingMethodAccessorImpl.java:43)
at java.lang.reflect.Method.invoke(Method.java:483)
at net.minecraft.launchwrapper.Launch.launch(Launch.java:135)
at net.minecraft.launchwrapper.Launch.main(Launch.java:28)
Caused by: java.lang.NoClassDefFoundError: forestry/apiculture/FlowerProviderVanilla
at exnihilo.compatibility.foresty.HiveRegistry.<clinit>(HiveRegistry.java:25)
at exnihilo.compatibility.foresty.Forestry.loadCompatibility(Forestry.java:28)
at exnihilo.ExNihilo.PostInitialize(ExNihilo.java:132)
at sun.reflect.NativeMethodAccessorImpl.invoke0(Native Method)
at sun.reflect.NativeMethodAccessorImpl.invoke(NativeMethodAccessorImpl.java:62)
at sun.reflect.DelegatingMethodAccessorImpl.invoke(DelegatingMethodAccessorImpl.java:43)
at java.lang.reflect.Method.invoke(Method.java:483)
at cpw.mods.fml.common.FMLModContainer.handleModStateEvent(FMLModContainer.java:531)
at sun.reflect.GeneratedMethodAccessor3.invoke(Unknown Source)
at sun.reflect.DelegatingMethodAccessorImpl.invoke(DelegatingMethodAccessorImpl.java:43)
at java.lang.reflect.Method.invoke(Method.java:483)
at com.google.common.eventbus.EventSubscriber.handleEvent(EventSubscriber.java:74)
at com.google.common.eventbus.SynchronizedEventSubscriber.handleEvent(SynchronizedEventSubscriber.java:47)
at com.google.common.eventbus.EventBus.dispatch(EventBus.java:322)
at com.google.common.eventbus.EventBus.dispatchQueuedEvents(EventBus.java:304)
at com.google.common.eventbus.EventBus.post(EventBus.java:275)
at cpw.mods.fml.common.LoadController.sendEventToModContainer(LoadController.java:208)
at cpw.mods.fml.common.LoadController.propogateStateMessage(LoadController.java:187)
at sun.reflect.NativeMethodAccessorImpl.invoke0(Native Method)
at sun.reflect.NativeMethodAccessorImpl.invoke(NativeMethodAccessorImpl.java:62)
at sun.reflect.DelegatingMethodAccessorImpl.invoke(DelegatingMethodAccessorImpl.java:43)
at java.lang.reflect.Method.invoke(Method.java:483)
at com.google.common.eventbus.EventSubscriber.handleEvent(EventSubscriber.java:74)
at com.google.common.eventbus.SynchronizedEventSubscriber.handleEvent(SynchronizedEventSubscriber.java:47)
at com.google.common.eventbus.EventBus.dispatch(EventBus.java:322)
at com.google.common.eventbus.EventBus.dispatchQueuedEvents(EventBus.java:304)
at com.google.common.eventbus.EventBus.post(EventBus.java:275)
at cpw.mods.fml.common.LoadController.distributeStateMessage(LoadController.java:118)
at cpw.mods.fml.common.Loader.initializeMods(Loader.java:694)
... 10 more
Caused by: java.lang.ClassNotFoundException: forestry.apiculture.FlowerProviderVanilla
at net.minecraft.launchwrapper.LaunchClassLoader.findClass(LaunchClassLoader.java:191)
at java.lang.ClassLoader.loadClass(ClassLoader.java:424)
at java.lang.ClassLoader.loadClass(ClassLoader.java:357)
... 39 more
Caused by: java.lang.NullPointerException
A detailed walkthrough of the error, its code path and all known details is as follows:
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Forestry had a major change in how bee hives work recently. The stable version of Ex Nihilo is compatible with the old version of Forestry. The most recent beta builds of Ex Nihilo should work with the new version of Forestry. 1.34 happens to work with both because the bee hive compatibility was completely disabled in that version, but you won't be able to do a lot of the cross-mod stuff.
Roughly how much a week would you need to earn to make Ex Nihilo 2? Im willing to back, i saw your link to your backer page and such.
Well, as of this week I have been officially promoted to "Contractor". This has a good side and a bad side.
The good:
I have all the time in the world to work on Ex Nihilo 2. I've already made some great progress on rewriting existing features in 1.8.
The bad:
I have no idea when or even if I'll get more paid work.
I still hope that the kickstarter will gain some momentum towards the deadline, but so far trying to get my message to go viral has been like trying to start a fire with wet wood. I'll put in a ton of effort and see some small movement, but instead of seeing it take on a life of it's own it just smolders for a while and goes out. People retweet me once in a while, but no one is really talking about it unless they are debating the probability of me taking the money and disappearing. Without viral spread, I'm afraid my campaign might be dead in the water. Maybe if I had more of a 'direct' connection to my audience it would have been different, but I'm relying on other people to talk to my audience for me and it just isn't happening in any meaningful way.
So here's my new plan. Even if the kickstarter doesn't work out, Ex Nihilo 2 is going to get released at the very least. I can use my savings to survive till then. Perhaps the attention that I have managed to get will allow me to assemble enough of a following on Patreon that I can last a few more months then I could on my own.
How much do I need? As much as I can get I guess. I appreciate everything that you do to help support me, but no one has been able to turn Patreon into a survivable wage yet. I'm going to do what I can to support the mod pack devs and the players who use my mod, and I can only hope that you'll choose to support me in return. I doubt Patreon will pay my bills, so I'm going to be burning through my savings no matter what.
When will my savings run out and force me to go back to work full time? That depends on a lot of factors. Will I get new contract work regularly from my employer? Will my Kickstarter backers move to Patreon? Will the Kickstarter pull out a miraculous finish in the last week? I just don't know.
I can only say that I'll last as long as I can and that Ex Nihilo 2 will be written. Maybe this will become the new pattern that I have to resort to: work for a year to support a 'summer vacation' where I do my modding work.
I'm curious to know why you made your earlier post bigger of redundant information that ether I already know, or more things that you're totally getting the wrong idea from. I never said there shouldn't be professional modders, I don't appreciate words being put into my mouth.
I also don't know why you think I object to this kickstarter, while all I have is just concerns and questions. Also don't throw freely around so loosely, while it will be technically free for some others still would of had to pay for the "free mod"
So really he assumes the risks and responsibilities of freelance work? Fine, if he is successful kudos to him. I am really just more curious to a plan B, or if he has tried other things for assistance (Ex: Paetron), or the reason this will be his only line of work.
I do have a Patreon, but no modder has been able to get their Patreon up to something resembling a livable wage yet. Hopefully all this attention will help me with that as I work on ExN2. I also have savings to draw on (and credit if something truly terrible happens), and my wonderful wife still working to offset some costs. I may even resort to streaming my development and answering questions and see what kind of income that generates.
I plan on being extremely frugal with the kickstarter money, but when it does run out I can always find another employer. Java isn't my only skill. I'm also very good with VB, C#, a few scripting languages, databases, webservices, the list goes on... I'm very highly desired in my part of the country. I'm truly not worried about finding another job.
EDIT: I want to try and explain my reaction earlier. Yes, I was responding to you, but those same questions have been asked of me a lot lately. I was talking to you, but in a way I was also talking to the rest of the world as well. The emotion was more directed at everyone else. You haven't upset me at all.
I do feel like Erasmus's comment was a tad bit rude "Unfortunately, I've never been exposed to your 'doujin culture' before and I still don't completely understand why some......"
A person's personal interests shouldn't be pointed out in a conversation about mod development and kickstarters.
Though it is rather silly people are getting upset over the kickstarter, I suppose they fear you will lose interest in the mod if it doesnt reach it's goal Erasmus? That is the only discernible reason I can see.
Really though, the kickstarter is optional and it is not mandatory. If you think Erasmus's kickstarter is lame, just think, people have gotten 600+ dollars over potato salad... A mod with a kickstart honestly isn't a waste, in fact you already have content for free peeps.
My only concern about the kickstarter is maybe the goal's amount? I'm not sure if its that high for room for growth or what. Even if it is achieved a paying job should still be in possession. I'd rather a mod maker have a decently stable life even if it takes away from mod time, and of course time for bug fixes is time well spent too.
What you don't see are the comments of his that were deleted by moderators where he was unloading on me for betraying the "doujin culture and ZUN" (his words).
I see how my response might seem rude, but I meant what I said. I've never even heard of either of those terms before, and I still don't have a functional understanding of them.
As far as me losing interest if the goal isn't met....
The problem isn't interest. It's time. I love skyblock. This community is fantastic and I absolutely adore the people who stop by to let me know how much they appreciate my work. I wish SO MUCH that I can do this all day, every day.
When I created this mod, I didn't have a job. This mod WAS my job. I would estimate that 90% or more of the features of the mod were developed during that time. A year ago, I got a job offer and accepted it. At first I thought I could do both things. For the first six months or so I tried as hard as I could to keep up, but I didn't have time to make the jump from 1.6 to 1.7, so another modder had to do it for me. Without him, this mod would probably have died then. I got so tired of sitting in front of a computer for 80 or 90 hours a week between my day job and my work here, so I started slacking off. Other modders picked up the slack and fixed bugs for me. Now Insaneau is working on the mod for the current 1.7 packs and even doing the builds for me so that Sky Factory 2 and Agrarian Skies 2 can keep making progress...
None of this is fair to you, to Jadedcat, to Bacon_Donut, or to Insaneau, Parker, and the other great modders that have helped me out. I need to either come back and pick up my slack, or give up the rights to my project and get out of the way. This mod is open source so that it will survive me leaving, but I DESPERATELY don't want to, and maybe the next modder won't share my vision or design choices that have created such a following...
Lots of people have suggested that I only work part time so that I have more free time, but I'm a software engineer. The systems I work on take weeks of full time focus to even understand. There is no such thing as a part time software engineer.
I still have my job. I haven't finalized my leaving just yet. The kickstarter is me, asking you guys, "Please, PLEASE let me work for you instead." I'm willing to make a fraction of what I am now. I'm obviously never going to get rich doing this, I just want someone to pay for my roof, my internet, my electricity and my food so I can actually create things again.
So what happens if the kickstarter fails? I grow up. I accept that I'm an adult, adults have to have "real jobs", and that I'm not capable of having a job and being a modder. That is the truth of the situation I'm in.
I hope I've made it clear that none of this is happening due to a lack of passion, or ideas, or commitment. In fact, I'm doing the Kickstarter because I'm so committed to this community that I want to give you guys a last chance to keep me in the game.
I think the kickstarter is an awesome idea!! Anyone who thinks you're trying to steal money or whatever really has no idea how money works in the real world, and how little 10k actually is, and Definitely has no idea how intensive development projects can be, especially when the said development project will be released for free...
With that said, I've enjoyed ex nihilo so much that I will try to donate when I can afford to. I think your plans for development are ridiculously brave and you earn a lotta my respect.
Thank you so much chanicle. I sincerely hope that I get a chance to return your kindness and generosity.
Holding a hat for what you've already done is fine. But what you're doing is waving your hat at people for something you've yet to do.
I once paid a man for a game that was barely working. It was in alpha testing, and it looked pretty terrible. Everyone called him crazy. He said something like, "Hi there! I've got this game, it's not much, but I can make it bigger, better, more fun! So please pay me anyway?" I did. Paying for the development of Minecraft was the best eight dollars that I will ever give anyone in my life. I'm thankful to him for giving me the opportunity to help.
So... Hi there! I've got this mod, Ex Nihilo. It's already pretty cool, but I can make it bigger, better and more fun! So please pay me anyway?
How can you judge me, and not him? How can you say you'll never play my mod, while you are playing his game? I'm not even selling my work. As long as someone buys me food, I will give away my work for free, just like I've already given away two years, for free.
Sorry but, there are many mod devs that work on mods in their own time instead of quitting a job/collage/school and asking for money from others. Sure the mod doesn't get developed quickly. but, it does get done eventually. And some people are perfectly happy waiting.
There's also many mod devs that have worked extremely hard on their mods and still do without asking for a single penny.
Maybe you're referring to mod authors who DON'T have to support millions of people that play major mod packs... Well, I'm sorry, but once your mod reaches 10,000+ lines of code, it takes more time and more sacrifices to work on then your average "Look at me, I made an obsidian shovel!" mod.
All modders (rightfully) want to be make a living with their modding work. If you don't like my mod, then don't support it's development, but I am not the villain that you are trying to paint me as.
Erasmus, first of all, totally support your campaign, just tweeted about, hope you can reach the goal, and work on the new Ex-Nihilo 2, for sure it will be amazing as Ex-Nihilo 1 is already.
Good luck with that man you totally deserve for the great mod you created.
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Now to the question lol
For Ex-Nihilo 1, we should ask "Fixes/suggestions" on the bitbucket link you shared, or can we ask here anyway?
In any case, the question is "Is there any upgrade planned?" Apparently, the new Thermal Expansion broke somehow the way you overwrite/add recipes for the Pulverizer, so you now not getting Gravel from Cobblestone for example.
Not really sure why it's broken because using ModTweaker you can overwrite recipes with the exact same code. Perhaps it's the way your mod recognizes if Thermal Expansion is installed or not? Really don't know, hopefully it's an easy fix and you can push an update
Thanks a lot.
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Edit: Now that I answer a comment in same post it came to my mind, is it your mod doing that, or I should ask Ex-Astris developer?
Thanks for the support man.
Also, thanks for just stopping by and saying hi. As you can see above, this has become a bit of a trial, so I can use as much reassurance as I can get.
To answer your question, Insaneau is supporting Ex Nihilo 1 for now. I'm still working full time and dealing with the kickstarter. You'll have much better luck asking him for help. His bug tracker is the bitbucket link I shared earlier. I'll likely be adding that link to the front page of this thread tonight to clear that up.
I'm sorry if I've somehow offended you. That was never my intention.
Unfortunately, I've never been exposed to your 'doujin culture' before and I still don't completely understand why some there are some 'good' ways to pay for work and some 'bad' ways. It has been interesting trying to understand your point of view though.
All I'm doing is holding out a hat and people are dropping money into it. I don't know why that makes you so aggressive.
They did. They left a post in the thread. It's because the OP linked directly to my kickstarter.
I'm pretty sure that we can DISCUSS the kickstarter and my ideas for Ex Nihilo 2 on the subreddit, we just can't link to the actual page. If no one else starts up the conversation again, I'll probably do it myself tonight. Thanks for the heads up though!
This is a conflict with GregTech, it doesn't happen with IC2. Gregorius blames me, but I don't have the foggiest idea why it happens.
Ex Nihilo + IC2 = works fine.
Ex Nihilo + IC2 + GT= crash and die.
Go into the Ex Nihilo config file and disable the macerator recipe overrides and the game will work just fine. You just won't have the stone->gravel or gravel->sand recipes.
Honestly, it's going to be rough. Ex Nihilo 2 is going to be built in Minecraft 1.8, which has an entirely new model rendering system and quite a few other changes under the hood.
Let's assume though that 1.8 was going to be a piece of cake, it would STILL be rough for your server because I'm taking advantage of the opportunity to correct some really old mistakes in the mod's architecture and rebuild some systems from scratch.
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It's going well.
I'll let everyone know the instant I have something playable.
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If you think I'm bad, you're probably going curl up in a corner and weep when you hear about this.
http://www.engadget.com/2015/04/24/valve-steam-sell-mods/?ncid=rss_truncated
Modding is changing, friend. Don't like it? Make your own mod and give it away.
About the refunds, no one was ever charged. If I don't reach my goal, then I get nothing. That is part of the reason why I chose Kickstarter. Your toxic attitude is not very conducive to a creative process, so would you please never come back to a thread of mine? Thanks cupcake.
Also, did you just threaten my life?
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Could you create an issue for Insaneau to look at? Ex Astris is a seperate mod so it's really his concern anyway.
https://bitbucket.org/MikeLydeamore/ex-nihilo/issues?status=new&status=open
Please look at posts 3 and 4 on this page.
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Forestry had a major change in how bee hives work recently. The stable version of Ex Nihilo is compatible with the old version of Forestry. The most recent beta builds of Ex Nihilo should work with the new version of Forestry. 1.34 happens to work with both because the bee hive compatibility was completely disabled in that version, but you won't be able to do a lot of the cross-mod stuff.
1
Well, as of this week I have been officially promoted to "Contractor". This has a good side and a bad side.
The good:
I have all the time in the world to work on Ex Nihilo 2. I've already made some great progress on rewriting existing features in 1.8.
The bad:
I have no idea when or even if I'll get more paid work.
I still hope that the kickstarter will gain some momentum towards the deadline, but so far trying to get my message to go viral has been like trying to start a fire with wet wood. I'll put in a ton of effort and see some small movement, but instead of seeing it take on a life of it's own it just smolders for a while and goes out. People retweet me once in a while, but no one is really talking about it unless they are debating the probability of me taking the money and disappearing. Without viral spread, I'm afraid my campaign might be dead in the water. Maybe if I had more of a 'direct' connection to my audience it would have been different, but I'm relying on other people to talk to my audience for me and it just isn't happening in any meaningful way.
So here's my new plan. Even if the kickstarter doesn't work out, Ex Nihilo 2 is going to get released at the very least. I can use my savings to survive till then. Perhaps the attention that I have managed to get will allow me to assemble enough of a following on Patreon that I can last a few more months then I could on my own.
How much do I need? As much as I can get I guess. I appreciate everything that you do to help support me, but no one has been able to turn Patreon into a survivable wage yet. I'm going to do what I can to support the mod pack devs and the players who use my mod, and I can only hope that you'll choose to support me in return. I doubt Patreon will pay my bills, so I'm going to be burning through my savings no matter what.
When will my savings run out and force me to go back to work full time? That depends on a lot of factors. Will I get new contract work regularly from my employer? Will my Kickstarter backers move to Patreon? Will the Kickstarter pull out a miraculous finish in the last week? I just don't know.
I can only say that I'll last as long as I can and that Ex Nihilo 2 will be written. Maybe this will become the new pattern that I have to resort to: work for a year to support a 'summer vacation' where I do my modding work.
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I do have a Patreon, but no modder has been able to get their Patreon up to something resembling a livable wage yet. Hopefully all this attention will help me with that as I work on ExN2. I also have savings to draw on (and credit if something truly terrible happens), and my wonderful wife still working to offset some costs. I may even resort to streaming my development and answering questions and see what kind of income that generates.
I plan on being extremely frugal with the kickstarter money, but when it does run out I can always find another employer. Java isn't my only skill. I'm also very good with VB, C#, a few scripting languages, databases, webservices, the list goes on... I'm very highly desired in my part of the country. I'm truly not worried about finding another job.
EDIT: I want to try and explain my reaction earlier. Yes, I was responding to you, but those same questions have been asked of me a lot lately. I was talking to you, but in a way I was also talking to the rest of the world as well. The emotion was more directed at everyone else. You haven't upset me at all.
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What you don't see are the comments of his that were deleted by moderators where he was unloading on me for betraying the "doujin culture and ZUN" (his words).
I see how my response might seem rude, but I meant what I said. I've never even heard of either of those terms before, and I still don't have a functional understanding of them.
As far as me losing interest if the goal isn't met....
The problem isn't interest. It's time. I love skyblock. This community is fantastic and I absolutely adore the people who stop by to let me know how much they appreciate my work. I wish SO MUCH that I can do this all day, every day.
When I created this mod, I didn't have a job. This mod WAS my job. I would estimate that 90% or more of the features of the mod were developed during that time. A year ago, I got a job offer and accepted it. At first I thought I could do both things. For the first six months or so I tried as hard as I could to keep up, but I didn't have time to make the jump from 1.6 to 1.7, so another modder had to do it for me. Without him, this mod would probably have died then. I got so tired of sitting in front of a computer for 80 or 90 hours a week between my day job and my work here, so I started slacking off. Other modders picked up the slack and fixed bugs for me. Now Insaneau is working on the mod for the current 1.7 packs and even doing the builds for me so that Sky Factory 2 and Agrarian Skies 2 can keep making progress...
None of this is fair to you, to Jadedcat, to Bacon_Donut, or to Insaneau, Parker, and the other great modders that have helped me out. I need to either come back and pick up my slack, or give up the rights to my project and get out of the way. This mod is open source so that it will survive me leaving, but I DESPERATELY don't want to, and maybe the next modder won't share my vision or design choices that have created such a following...
Lots of people have suggested that I only work part time so that I have more free time, but I'm a software engineer. The systems I work on take weeks of full time focus to even understand. There is no such thing as a part time software engineer.
I still have my job. I haven't finalized my leaving just yet. The kickstarter is me, asking you guys, "Please, PLEASE let me work for you instead." I'm willing to make a fraction of what I am now. I'm obviously never going to get rich doing this, I just want someone to pay for my roof, my internet, my electricity and my food so I can actually create things again.
So what happens if the kickstarter fails? I grow up. I accept that I'm an adult, adults have to have "real jobs", and that I'm not capable of having a job and being a modder. That is the truth of the situation I'm in.
I hope I've made it clear that none of this is happening due to a lack of passion, or ideas, or commitment. In fact, I'm doing the Kickstarter because I'm so committed to this community that I want to give you guys a last chance to keep me in the game.
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Thank you so much chanicle. I sincerely hope that I get a chance to return your kindness and generosity.
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You bought something after it's development was funded by it's fans. Doesn't that violate your moral code?
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I once paid a man for a game that was barely working. It was in alpha testing, and it looked pretty terrible. Everyone called him crazy. He said something like, "Hi there! I've got this game, it's not much, but I can make it bigger, better, more fun! So please pay me anyway?" I did. Paying for the development of Minecraft was the best eight dollars that I will ever give anyone in my life. I'm thankful to him for giving me the opportunity to help.
So... Hi there! I've got this mod, Ex Nihilo. It's already pretty cool, but I can make it bigger, better and more fun! So please pay me anyway?
How can you judge me, and not him? How can you say you'll never play my mod, while you are playing his game? I'm not even selling my work. As long as someone buys me food, I will give away my work for free, just like I've already given away two years, for free.
You mean like, Pahimar, Azanor, Chickenbones, iChun, CovertJaguar, Professor Mobius, or Pam from Pam's Harvestcraft?
Maybe you're referring to mod authors who DON'T have to support millions of people that play major mod packs... Well, I'm sorry, but once your mod reaches 10,000+ lines of code, it takes more time and more sacrifices to work on then your average "Look at me, I made an obsidian shovel!" mod.
All modders (rightfully) want to be make a living with their modding work. If you don't like my mod, then don't support it's development, but I am not the villain that you are trying to paint me as.
Thanks for the support man.
Also, thanks for just stopping by and saying hi. As you can see above, this has become a bit of a trial, so I can use as much reassurance as I can get.
To answer your question, Insaneau is supporting Ex Nihilo 1 for now. I'm still working full time and dealing with the kickstarter. You'll have much better luck asking him for help. His bug tracker is the bitbucket link I shared earlier. I'll likely be adding that link to the front page of this thread tonight to clear that up.
Thanks again!
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I'm sorry if I've somehow offended you. That was never my intention.
Unfortunately, I've never been exposed to your 'doujin culture' before and I still don't completely understand why some there are some 'good' ways to pay for work and some 'bad' ways. It has been interesting trying to understand your point of view though.
All I'm doing is holding out a hat and people are dropping money into it. I don't know why that makes you so aggressive.
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They did. They left a post in the thread. It's because the OP linked directly to my kickstarter.
I'm pretty sure that we can DISCUSS the kickstarter and my ideas for Ex Nihilo 2 on the subreddit, we just can't link to the actual page. If no one else starts up the conversation again, I'll probably do it myself tonight. Thanks for the heads up though!
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I just launched the worlds first Kickstarter for a Minecraft mod.
Please help me spread the news guys!
https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/2010050934/ex-nihilo-2
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This is a conflict with GregTech, it doesn't happen with IC2. Gregorius blames me, but I don't have the foggiest idea why it happens.
Ex Nihilo + IC2 = works fine.
Ex Nihilo + IC2 + GT= crash and die.
Go into the Ex Nihilo config file and disable the macerator recipe overrides and the game will work just fine. You just won't have the stone->gravel or gravel->sand recipes.
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Honestly, it's going to be rough. Ex Nihilo 2 is going to be built in Minecraft 1.8, which has an entirely new model rendering system and quite a few other changes under the hood.
Let's assume though that 1.8 was going to be a piece of cake, it would STILL be rough for your server because I'm taking advantage of the opportunity to correct some really old mistakes in the mod's architecture and rebuild some systems from scratch.
Long story short... It's going to suck.
Insaneau might implement that fix in the older branch if you bring it to his attention here.
https://bitbucket.org/MikeLydeamore/ex-nihilo/issues?status=new&status=open