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    posted a message on Looking for a good PC.

    Will you be willing to build it? If so do you need a monitor, mouse and keyboard, will you be overclocking and do you need an OS? Also, what "other games" will you be playing, and what kind of "editing" will you be doing?

    Posted in: Building, Parts & Peripherals
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    posted a message on First PC Build
    Quote from AyyMD»

    The best CPU for games that are optimized like Minecraft and CS:GO, an overclocked Pentium G3258 is king.


    PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

    CPU: Intel Pentium G3258 3.2GHz Dual-Core Processor ($93.50 @ Newegg Australia)
    CPU Cooler: Deepcool GAMMAXX 300 55.5 CFM CPU Cooler ($25.00 @ CPL Online)
    Motherboard: MSI H81M-P33 Micro ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($69.00 @ CPL Online)
    Memory: G.Skill Value 8GB (1 x 8GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($41.80 @ Newegg Australia)
    Storage: Kingston HyperX Fury 120GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($60.00 @ CPL Online)
    Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($68.00 @ CPL Online)
    Video Card: MSI Radeon R7 370 2GB Video Card ($199.00 @ Mwave Australia)
    Case: Deepcool TESSERACT BF ATX Mid Tower Case ($49.99 @ Mwave Australia)
    Power Supply: XFX TS 550W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply ($79.00 @ PCCaseGear)
    Total: $685.29
    Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
    Generated by PCPartPicker 2016-06-01 06:47 AEST+1000


    Compared to the other guy's build, here's what's better and what's worse.

    • The CPU is an upgrade for Minecraft, but it's worse for other things.
    • The cooler should allow you to overclock more than the stock cooler, but you don't really need it if you want to spend less.
    • I added an SSD for faster boot times, while keeping the HDD in the list.
    • The R7 370 is better and newer than the 750ti, and it runs pretty good (I had a 7850, which is literally the exact same GPU)
    • This case is cheaper, but it's still good quality.
    • This PSU is much, much better than the other guy's recommendation.

    If you have any questions, feel free to ask me.


    I don't really think Minecraft should take precedent here upon which CPU we should pick, considering Minecraft won't run any better or worse with either the G3258 or the 6100. The 6100 is a better CPU in all departments, even if you OC the G3258 it still beats it multicore, which the OP will need with their 2-3 adobe programs at once. The 6100 is also newer and provides a greater upgrade path, especially with Kaby Lake coming.

    SSD isn't really needed for what the OP is doing, it just adds to the cost and limits you a bit, with Australia's prices, it's not worth an SSD at this price.

    Other than that, it's a nice build, though here's an improved version (that's also cheaper):

    PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

    CPU: Intel Core i3-6100 3.7GHz Dual-Core Processor ($158.00 @ Centre Com)
    Motherboard: Asus H110M-K Micro ATX LGA1151 Motherboard ($88.00 @ CPL Online)
    Memory: Kingston ValueRAM 8GB (1 x 8GB) DDR4-2133 Memory ($39.00 @ PLE Computers)
    Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($68.00 @ CPL Online)
    Video Card: MSI Radeon R7 370 2GB Video Card ($199.00 @ Mwave Australia)
    Case: Deepcool TESSERACT BF ATX Mid Tower Case ($49.99 @ Mwave Australia)
    Power Supply: XFX 550W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply ($79.00 @ PCCaseGear)
    Total: $680.99
    Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
    Generated by PCPartPicker 2016-06-02 01:57 AEST+1000

    Most you could do to maximize the budget is maybe swap the mobo for a H110M-A but there's no point in doing that for this CPU.
    Posted in: Building, Parts & Peripherals
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    posted a message on Show Your System
    Quote from _Xiae»

    I have one of the older green sticker CX750M models powering my NAS and have had no issues with it. That said, it never sees more than like 25% utilization of the 750W haha, and that's over estimating the usage.


    Bitfenix Prodigy nawt big enough though. :( Recommendations for an ITX case with support for lots of 3.5" bays and a long graphics card..?


    What about the Fractal Design Node 304 (Mini ITX Tower)? Has 6 3.5" bays and can support 310mm cards (I believe with the bays installed too, it is a big cube thing after all). Australia is pretty hard to find them for mini ITX unfortunately.
    Posted in: Computer Science and Technology
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    posted a message on Speedtest.net Results and General Internet connection and ISP Discussion


    Downloading Wargame: Red Dragon (15GB) was awfully fun on Friday.

    Posted in: Computer Science and Technology
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    posted a message on Please answer - Does Toshiba Satellite L775D Run Minecraft 1.9 smoothly?
    Quote from AlexxRyzhkov»

    Keep in mind that PassMark doesn't exactly translate to real-world performance.



    One thing is I actually owned a laptop with a APU like this (it was a toshiba with an A8-6410) which theoretically should've ran MC with no issues. However, even on the lowest settings I got only around 30-40 fps. I thought mine was defective so I got another laptop (a lenovo) with identical specs. Same exact problem. I was running the newest and correct drivers, newest version of Java and Optifine, and had it at lowest settings.


    Then I said screw it and returned that laptop, and got a Lenovo with an i3-4010U and HD 4400, and I got literally almost triple the FPS on the same settings. At this point I'm assuming that Minecraft just doesn't like slow CPUs.


    It gives a good indication of real world performance because it's a benchmark, even if it's not exactly real world. Obviously that depends on many other variables other than just the GPU, but it gives you a good indication. I've got a Pentium B950 and Intel HD and I get 20-30 on the lowest now (used to get a bit higher on older versions, but not by any significant margin). I've also got a lot of stuff running in the background which really slows it down nowadays (not bothering to sort it out as at Christmas I'm building a PC, where this laptop will then just be used for basic things like Skype). Minecraft is still a pretty shabbily coded game and is semi-random between systems, and the B950 is certainly not a fast CPU.
    Quote from _Xiae»

    Tried running MC on a Pentium D 930 and GTX 980 once just for kicks. Wouldn't budge past 10fps no matter the settings.


    Bit of an extreme case, but supports your theory I guess? *shrugs*


    I wouldn't really say that it supports the theory as it's such an extreme example. An old CPU from the first quarter of 2006 is obviously not going to perform particularly well on many modern games. We say Minecraft isn't CPU dependent anymore which is certainly the case for modern CPUs (as Alexx proved with his weak (for a modern CPU) i3-4010U using Intel HD 4400) but obviously it's irrelevant to test that theory on stupendously old and poor CPUs.
    Posted in: Hardware & Software Support
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    posted a message on Please answer - Does Toshiba Satellite L775D Run Minecraft 1.9 smoothly?
    Quote from AlexxRyzhkov»

    Where on earth do you see that the 6520G beats the Iris 540 and R7-240?? According to Notebook check, it's similar to the Radeon HD 6370M, which is 5 times slower than the Iris 540.

    Also to answer your question, no it won't run. I mean it might, but it won't be playable.

    The A6-3400m has horrific single thread performance, and the shoddy GPU isn't helping you at all

    Futuremark. Didn't realize it only pitted it using 3DMark, my bad.

    Although according to PassMark it is essentially performing the same as Intel HD 4000, and in UserBenchmark it shows essentially the same results. Intel HD 4000 can handle Minecraft well and definitely playable, so this GPU should handle MC just fine. If all else fails (assuming OP already has this laptop) they can use OptiFine. The MC benchmarks on the MC wiki have a few instances of Intel HD 4000 at different resolutions that show it's working well too.

    Although it is quite a bad APU altogether it'll handle a game like Minecraft fine, OptiFine could be used but it'll likely pull 60 at the lowest settings. Minecraft isn't exactly CPU intensive after all.

    I thought he had only an integrated GPU.

    Read my post again and read my reply to Alexx because you completely missed my entire argument somehow.
    Posted in: Hardware & Software Support
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    posted a message on Please answer - Does Toshiba Satellite L775D Run Minecraft 1.9 smoothly?

    Unfortunately no, due to gpu being integrated which results to choppy gameplay performances.


    Ah yes every single integrated GPU to ever exist is bad simply because it's integrated. No, you're wrong. The 6520G isn't that bad (beats Iris Pro 540 and R7-240 - two GPUs that can run Minecraft, and isn't far off a dGPU like the HD 6670/6750). Sure, it's not exactly a great GPU, but it's not bad either and it will run MC fine, maybe not at full settings, but it will probably pull near 60 on the lowest settings (or use OptiFine).

    @OP, although it should theoretically run MC, have you actually bought this laptop yet? If not, what is your price and currency because we can likely get you a better one for the price.
    Posted in: Hardware & Software Support
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    posted a message on How many fps in minecraft do I get with an i5 5200u and a gtx 940m?
    Quote from LevyyOnPC»

    30-90 FPS.. You do realize that is a 60 FPS difference which is an extreme difference.

    Back to your question;
    8GB RAM = Perfect, any more RAM is a waste of money unless you are hosting a server.
    Nvidia Geforce 940m 2GB = Beautiful, 2GB will be perfect.
    2.7GHz = Trash.. This will be a negative factor for you without a doubt in my mind.

    So all after analyzing I would put it around 40FPS for the following reason;
    Minecraft is a sandbox game which relies mainly on CPU power, 2.7 GHz just won't cut it.


    940M isn't exactly a beautiful GPU, it's similar to Iris Pro HD 5200. There are obviously better alternatives. Why are you saying that the VRAM will be perfect? We're talking about performance here, not capacity.

    2.7GHz is completely irrelevant, clock speed =/= performance. By talking purely about the clock speed, you're literally saying that an FX-8350 is better than an i5-6600K because it's 4GHz and the 6600K is 3.5GHz, when the 8350 gets rekt. Likewise, with an even bigger contrast using the i5-6400, the 8350 still gets beaten when the 6400 is only 2.7GHz (trash? kek). The 6700K and the 8350 are both clocked at 4GHz yet the 6700K absolutely destroys it. Performance comes down to many more factors than pure GHz - SMT or CMT, architecture (big one, and not just the size of the transistor), IPC, cores, HT, FSB/DMI/QPI, the list goes on and on, even external factors like RAM can affect CPU performance. None of these can be used on their own to determine an entire CPUs performance, they all have to be combined and thought about and linked together to give a CPUs performance. Obviously as I just showed you, the best and most absolute way to determine CPU performance is by using benchmarks. Clock speed does become a factor of performance however if we're comparing two of the same/similar CPUs. An i3-6300 very slightly beats an i5-6600 in single core benchmarks because of its clock speed, and that is only because they're the exact same CPU architecturally. It's only in very specific cases like these that it can be a factor.

    Minecraft doesn't mainly rely on CPU power. This is a huge misconception. It's now mostly graphically intensive, as with practically all video games (unless you have some complex strategies like Ashes of the Singularity, Stellaris, EU4, CK2, etc, MC is not anywhere near these). Also 40FPS isn't very bad considering you're rating it "trash".

    @OP, the laptop will run MC fine, but it'd be nice to know how much you're spending so we can potentially find you something even better for the price, since it's a bit iffy.

    Posted in: Hardware & Software Support
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    posted a message on Minecraft turns off my computer?!?!!

    Download HWMonitor and tell us the temperatures / screenshot the temperatures, as your fans may not have been cleaned enough.


    Does it literally just shut down or do you get a Blue Screen of Death accompanied with it?

    Posted in: Hardware & Software Support
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    posted a message on Can someone help me out with buying a computer for minecraft?

    To be budget friendly, how about this:

    -Intel Core i5-5675C

    -6GB DDR4

    -Western Digital 1TB HDD (7200 RPM)

    -MSI Nvidia Geforce GT 740 2GB GDDR5

    -Intel Z170 motherboard

    -500W PSU


    Z170 with a Broadwell CPU that uses the LGA1150 socket? Why 6GB in particular, and not 8GB? The GT 745 above is better than that GPU, and what PSU? "500w PSU" is not good enough. Your CPU may be better than the 4170 but for Minecraft that extra power is not needed.
    Posted in: Building, Parts & Peripherals
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    posted a message on GPU / PC Updating Questions



    these GPUs are obsolete. Try the GTX 750 Ti.


    You're a bit late to the party, and the GT 730 is in the same lineup as the 750Ti (even though the 750Ti is Maxwell and the 730 is Kepler/Fermi, both are 2014, and the same series), thereby making it not obsolete, or technically making even the 750Ti obsolete because of the 900 series and soon to be Pascal series (although "obsolete" still feels too powerful considering they're not that old an work fine).

    The GT-730 will do fine for Minecraft, and will be able to extend slightly to some light games, though I wouldn't bother upgrading past that (to say a 750-Ti), it'd be better to just save up to build a new PC after this card.
    Posted in: Building, Parts & Peripherals
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    posted a message on is this PC good?

    I'm pretty sure at least one piece of hardware in a PC matters, so you're lying, as you cheaped out on every single part. That build is absolutely laughable. Outdated CPU that was also pretty iffy for its time anyway, for some reason a CLC, cheap motherboard, a hybrid drive which is just unnecessary, a 750Ti, the worlds cheapest case, and even a cheap PSU. Wow.

    Also, the fact you made it "in 2 minutes" greatly suggests to me that you should not be making any more builds until you realize the importance of people spending their own earned money on hardware, thereby suggesting rather obviously that you should be spending much greater than 2 minutes on a build.

    Currency converting won't work. It has a potential to work on two currencies such as the GBP and USD, but even then it's not great, and that's because hardware prices don't directly translate into other currencies, it depends on many other factors such as part availability, market size, etc. Converting £ to NOK certainly will yield inaccuracies that could mean the difference between bits of hardware.

    Also I'm fairly sure we solved this guys request almost a month ago, late for the party.

    Posted in: Building, Parts & Peripherals
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    posted a message on Will I notice a huge difference?
    Quote from Cerroz»

    Yup. Difference should be night and day.


    In applications that can effectively take advantage of 3 or 4 cores then it would, but most games won't do that at all, usually will be effectively using one core, possibly with a hint of two. I wouldn't exactly call that night and day.

    @OP, honestly you won't see much of a difference, the i3 is better for single core applications as it has a higher clock of 1GHz, which in this case makes a performance difference since all the Core series CPUs are the exact same cores (so are Pentiums), but with different clocks and core counts / hyperthreading enabled/disabled (mmm... Binning), but the i5 obviously beats the i3 in multi-core applications. For this reason you may as well pick up the i5 as it's not much more expensive and Battlefield 4 IIRC can take advantage of multiple cores, and as games come out they are starting to make good use of such (look at Ashes of the Singularity, I believe it can make almost full proper use of 4 cores). TL;DR get the i5 as it is overall beneficial for not much more.
    Posted in: Building, Parts & Peripherals
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    posted a message on Under 800 bucks, good or bad?

    You can get newer technology out of this for still under $800, with the addition of Skylake. If you want to shake it down closer to your original price, use the i5-6400 (the Skylake version of the 4460, basically).


    PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

    CPU: Intel Core i5-6500 3.2GHz Quad-Core Processor ($194.99 @ B&H)
    Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-Z170-HD3 ATX LGA1151 Motherboard ($87.98 @ Newegg)
    Memory: Crucial 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR4-2133 Memory ($31.99 @ Newegg)
    Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($47.98 @ OutletPC)
    Video Card: Gigabyte GeForce GTX 970 4GB WINDFORCE Video Card ($304.99 @ Newegg)
    Case: Rosewill Galaxy-02 ATX Mid Tower Case ($49.99 @ Newegg)
    Power Supply: EVGA 500W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply ($29.99 @ Newegg)
    Wireless Network Adapter: Gigabyte GC-WB867D-I 802.11a/b/g/n/ac PCI-Express x1 Wi-Fi Adapter ($29.89 @ OutletPC)
    Other: Dvd drive ($20.00)
    Total: $797.80
    Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
    Generated by PCPartPicker 2016-04-06 13:25 EDT-0400


    If you can go slightly over budget, you can get a slightly better GPU (and PSU, B2 is tier 2, SuperFlower Golden Green HX unit, great deal):


    PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

    CPU: Intel Core i5-6500 3.2GHz Quad-Core Processor ($194.99 @ B&H)
    Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-Z170-HD3 ATX LGA1151 Motherboard ($87.98 @ Newegg)
    Memory: Crucial 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR4-2133 Memory ($31.99 @ Newegg)
    Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($47.98 @ OutletPC)
    Video Card: Gigabyte Radeon R9 390 8GB Video Card ($299.99 @ SuperBiiz)
    Case: Rosewill Galaxy-02 ATX Mid Tower Case ($49.99 @ Newegg)
    Power Supply: EVGA 750W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply ($48.99 @ NCIX US)
    Wireless Network Adapter: Gigabyte GC-WB867D-I 802.11a/b/g/n/ac PCI-Express x1 Wi-Fi Adapter ($29.89 @ OutletPC)
    Other: Dvd drive ($20.00)
    Total: $811.80
    Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
    Generated by PCPartPicker 2016-04-06 13:28 EDT-0400


    Also you're saying DVD drive for $20? You can reduce the entire price of the build by just getting this one instead.

    Posted in: Building, Parts & Peripherals
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    posted a message on Windows 10 BSODs, no dumps, no idea what to do.
    Quote from BC_Programming»

    If it is set to system managed it should be fine.





    There is a non-zero chance that they will fix the issue, and they will not cause your system to explode, so yes.


    I'll do this and see what happens, I guess. Thanks for the help.
    Posted in: Hardware & Software Support
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