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    posted a message on Notch is mad at Simon and Lewis
    Quote from Tribblepoo

    Yes, it is a place to express one's opinion. However, when one touts their opinion as fact, then they deserve to be called out on it and evidence should be demanded. Why should a forum board be any different than a court in this regard? If you make a claim, back it up or admit that it is your opinion. You have expressed your opinion as fact and therefore I have called you on it. You didn't like that my view was different than your own, so you proceed to insult me and make lame attempts to throw out red herring arguments.



    Deliberately attempting to skew my point to add strength to your own argument? I see how this works.

    Anyway, what I was saying is that it is only common sense to expect someone who makes a claim to back it up with evidence. No one on any side of this argument has done so, least of all Notch. However, idiots like you defend him in spite of the fact that there is a glaring lack of evidence, making your opinions on the matter your opinions. Nothing more. No amount of aggrandizement by bringing red herrings and straw mans, nor insulting those who do not buy into the ******** will change that. Again, you have zero evidence that any of Notch's claims are true, so that by definition makes your personal judgment a biased opinion. You cannot escape that fact.


    *cough*strawman*cough*


    Circular logic? Okay, I guess I can pardon that so long as you know it's an intellectual fallacy.


    And pray tell, exactly what is it that I have said that is ********? Or is it the fact that you simply don't like what I have to say?


    So, basically you're saying you assumed what I posted was being posted as a fact and not an opinion, and because I have not put your mind to rest as such, you are still right?

    Maybe you should go re-read my post champ, It's all an opinion, just as EVERYTHING posted in this thread is. This isn't a court of law, and you sure aren't a ****ing lawyer.

    You made an assumption that I was posted as fact, and you've been using that assumption since the beginning. You assumed wrong. My post was my opinion, just as everything said in a forum is generally someones opinion.

    Final say in this matter, if you don't like my opinion, fine, you're welcome to debate it, but when you turn into a disrespectful little *****, you can go **** yourself. I guess all that's left is to see which one of us is right in the end.

    Quote from Greendale

    Dude, asking people to come and make content for your convention (where you make money from ticket sales, booth sales and publicity) is a business arrangement.


    That COULD be a business arrangement, had notch said, hey come provide content for minecon, and yogscast said, pay us this much, and notch said sure.

    Did any of that happen? Not that anyone is aware of. Still doesn't make posting on social media a contract of entitlement to anything.
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    posted a message on Notch is mad at Simon and Lewis


    Again, your ignorance is just amazing. The partner program is a means of using ads in your content, that generates revenue for the owner of the content as well as YouTube. Explain to me how this has anything to do with a business arrangement between Yogscast and Mojang?

    I'll wait, I'm sure you'll have something.

    Quote from Tribblepoo

    Alright, first, the presumption of innocence is the way things work. In courts, in science, basically everywhere, when one makes claims, they must back them up with evidence. Notch has not done so. Ergo, the assumption must be made that Notch's tweets aren't true until we see more evidence. All we have to go on is Notch's tweets, which are a very biased source. So yes, the assumption that the tweets aren't true, by method of not only science and law, but COMMON ****ING SENSE, is automatically more valid than the assumption that they are true. This may change as we get more evidence, but not until then.

    Not only that, learn to tell the difference between someone who is trying to point out how stupid your posts are and someone who actually opposes your point of view.


    Ooh, I am so ****ing scared. You used sarcasm without substance to destroy my post! Oh God what do I do now?


    So, let me get this straight, you think that the minecraft forum is a court of law, and not a place to express ones own opinion?


    Definition of OPINION
    1
    a : a view, judgment, or appraisal formed in the mind about a particular matter b : approval, esteem
    2
    a : belief stronger than impression and less strong than positive knowledge b : a generally held view
    3
    a : a formal expression of judgment or advice by an expert b : the formal expression (as by a judge, court, or referee) of the legal reasons and principles upon which a legal decision is based

    Hmm, I guess if you believed that minecraft forums were based on definition 3, I could be wrong. But if you have any ****ing sense at all, I'm guessing that definition, and the "COMMON ****ING SENSE" you claim, will tell you that the minecraft forum is a place to express opinion in the mindset of the first two definitions.

    Or did you think everyone who came on the forums was trying to write the laws of the universe?

    Pardon my logic, I'm sure it's getting in the way of your ignorant dribble.

    Sorry, but your ******** deserved to be called out.
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    posted a message on Notch is mad at Simon and Lewis
    Quote from Greendale

    Congratulations on making the dumbest post in the thread! YouTube is a business. Their partners create videos which drives traffic and ad revenue. That's real money. It's a real business.

    I don't know why this is so confusing for some.


    Congratulations on being ignorant. Just because the "HOST" of social media is a business, doesn't mean it's participants are paid employees you ignorant fool.

    Trying to argue against what I posted by saying YouTube is a business, is a lot like saying that because I play Minecraft, I am an employee.

    Quote from Tribblepoo

    Alright, rabid NDFer or a troll. Either way, I get to have fun with this one...


    Who says this is what happened? No one. This is a non-point.


    No, but I do see where you're going with this and it is one hell of a stretch, even for making a straw-man argument, but I will get to that.


    Irrelevant. You are effectively equating a series of crimes with arrogant (but perfectly legal) behavior. Try again.


    And it is your assumption that this happened. There is zero evidence of this.


    Um, no. Notch used his social media outlet to level (thus far) baseless accusations against Yogscast. Notch used his social media outlet as a weapon to defame and possibly commit libel. Yogscast merely used the stage at Minecon to poke a bit of good-natured fun, something which anyone with a sense of humor would have found funny, or at the least, good-naturedly satirical.


    This is perhaps the only sensible thing you say in this post.


    Okay, again you are assuming that events occured that there is no evidence of. Moreover, it is starting to become evident that you haven't even watched the panel. I suggest you go and do that.


    I am starting to think you're just a troll, but just in case you really do believe what you say, I have this. You are making the assumption that Yogscast chose to attend Minecon without pay for the sole purpose of insulting the Minecon, Mojang and fans of both. Wow, that is pretty low. Good thing there is zero evidence of that being the case.


    Actually, no. He could have handled the thing quietly and not made a big deal out of it. Yogscast simply would not have had a panel at the next Minecon (assuming there is one) and this could have been handled professionally and with class. Notch could have put himself on a level above the perceived wrongs of Yogscast. Instead he chose to go down to that level.


    Yup, Yogscast made a bunch of assumptions, just like you are assuming that Notch's tweets are 100% accurate.

    Now, either you are doing one hell of a job trolling or you've got blinders the size of sails over your eyes. Either way, that post deserved to be picked apart.


    Wow, I feel so picked apart and defeated. Basically, you leveled your assumptions that Notch's tweets aren't true, against my assumptions that they are. Yet your argument is some how more valid?

    Look, I destroyed your post without using multiple quotes, or a huge post. Do I win an internet now?
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    posted a message on Notch is mad at Simon and Lewis
    Social Media is not a paid job, and if you're expecting money for it, you should probably negotiate those terms up front, instead of trying to use leverage on the back end of the whole thing.

    People often forget that times are changing rapidly in society. Yogscast is nothing more then a social media outlet, just as notch on twitter is the same. If I start posting on twitter about a game I like, and become popular, should I then demand money for my services?

    Think if you'd like a service man show up at your house one day, and start remodeling your home, without talking with you, or presenting a contract or etc. Then, when the house comes out really nice, and the neighbors like it, he hands you a bill, and demands that the only reason you're popular with the neighbors, is because he had the good sense to remodel your hideous house for you.

    Blogging doesn't entitle you to compensation, period. If you get compensated, great, however, demanding or expecting it, and being offended if it doesn't happen, is just plain stupid.

    The fact that people are upset at notch for using his social media outlet, to address the issue of another social media outlet, is just crazy. Yogscast basically used the stage at minecon as a weapon, yet notch posting on twitter is a no no. Makes perfect sense.

    Sounds to me like notch and Mojang didn't spell out the terms and conditions for minecon, and yogscast didn't use the best judgement or discretion.

    You really shouldn't need to tell two grown men, how they need to behave in front of a public audience that includes children, you also shouldn't need to tell them that they aren't entitled to ANYTHING without a prior agreement with Mojang.

    Nobody was ever forcing yogscast to do this, nobody asked them to continue, they did it of their own free will. Their invitation to minecon was likely extended due to the popularity of the yogscast, and if they had expected to get paid, they could have declined to attend. Instead they chose to show up, and put a half assed effort into it, and insult the game, it's creators, and the fans.

    Notch could have kept quiet about the whole thing, and not said a word on twitter, but it wouldn't have changed a single thing, it would have just delayed the entire issue.

    Unless someone can come up with a contract between yogscast and Mojang, it sounds to me like Yogscast made a bunch of assumptions, and acted like asshats when they didn't get their way.
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    posted a message on SERVER IP HELP
    Quote from agartar55

    thanks. btw do u wanna join my server? its called EPICBUILD SERVER [CREATIVE/SURVIVAL] THE BEST CREATIVE/SURVIVAL SERVER EVER! {100 SLOTS, 24/7, MULTI-WORLD, CREATIVE PLUGINS, AND SO MUCH MORE!}


    No thank you, I actually operate my own server, but thanks for the offer :cool.gif:
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    posted a message on SERVER IP HELP
    Yes, both dyndns and no-ip are free options, and if you don't know if you have a static/dynamic IP, it's most likely you have a dynamic ip.

    Head over to either dyndns.com or no-ip.org, and you can read all about it. They have instructions and tutorials on the matter, just google dynamic dns.
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    posted a message on SERVER IP HELP
    Is your IP Static or dynamic? If it is static, this can be done multiple ways, you can purchase a domain name and have it forward to that IP, or you can use one of the dyndns services(dyndns.org or no-ip.com), and just point the host to the IP address.

    If your IP is dynamic, you'll need to use one of the dyndns services, and setup your router(if it's capable) or your machine to update the IP address of the host name each time it's changed.
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    posted a message on Minecraft Server Problems.
    There is absolutely nothing anyone can help you with until we get further details.

    "My friend is hosting a server on WindowsXP, and we could connect before but not now" is NOT enough information to help you, I tried to explain this to you.

    Relentless bumps aren't going to change the situation, you need to have your friend come on the forums, and explain the situation, and give us details, or we will not be able to help you.
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    posted a message on Minecraft Server Problems.
    Quote from Medical Distress

    He is using Windows XP nothing has changed. One morning we woke up to try and play Minecraft and it wasn't working. he's got a pretty good internet and a beast of a computer. It just stopped for no reason.


    Ok, I understand your frustration, however You're not offering me very much information to go on, I'll probably need to wait for the owner of the server to fill me in on the details.
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    posted a message on Minecraft Server Problems.
    Need some more info please.

    Which OS are you using to host the server?

    You said it was working a few days ago, has anything changed since then? Updates etc?

    The more descriptive you are about every aspect of the problem, the more helpful I can be.
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    posted a message on My computer sounds like its about to explode!
    Sounds to me like AMD cool&quiet is kicking in, and the CPU cooler is probably spinning up to 6k RPM. You can go into the bios and set the fans to silent mode, and they won't spin up as quick, however, your computer will run hotter.

    Your only other option, is to buy an aftermarket cpu cooler.

    My wife's computer does this with stock AMD cpu cooler, my aftermarket cpu cooler does not. 6k RPM, vs 750 RPM, kind of a big difference.

    The reason is started with 1.9, is the same reason everyone is complaining of FPS problems as the versions go up. The more code changes/features added to minecraft, the more resources it takes to run.
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    posted a message on Minecraft server issues
    Looks like You have corrupted chunks, You can use chunkster to fix them.

    What are the specs on your computer, and which OS are you using to host?
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    posted a message on Hardware

    No, Linux does not "use less RAM" than Windows. That depends on the Linux and Windows. Optimized Windows Xp Pro uses less memory than today's desktop Linux distros in normal config. Newer Windows versions can also be helped, if not that much.

    I am making the assumptions that people who seriously talk about installing Linux
    A)Can use Google
    B)Do NOT run any Windows OS in stock configuration.

    Linux being unsuitable for general gaming doesn't affect playing Minecraft on Linux.

    RAM is also only cheap if your hardware is almost new. Plus many computers still in everyday use don't even support more than 2GB. Very often more than a 1GB set cannot be acquired cheap enough to justify upgrading instead of buying new.


    You can't compare WindowsXP to modern distros in a blanket statement. Compare Distros of WindowsXP time to WindowsXP, and linux does on average use less ram.

    However, it's not that linux uses "less" ram, it just manages ALL its resources much better then Windows. We are comparing apples to apples right? A completely setup and functioning copy of both, that have been properly tweaked by people who know what they are doing?

    On the Ram being cheap comment, 16GB of DD3 can be purchased for around ~85$, 16GB of DDR2 will run you ~350$. Quite a wild price jump for older technology. The point is, if you're computer is running DD3, you're generally not having problems like not having enough memory.
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    posted a message on Minecraft used to run fine...
    Vista is widely known as one of the most horrible operating systems on the planet, It's probably a tie between Vista and ME.

    If everything is configured properly in Windows, then your computer specs probably aren't up to par.

    Most Linux distros consume far less resources then windows. In turn, native applications run better in linux when all else is equal.
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    posted a message on white-list=true not working [SMP server]
    Just a stupid question here, you said you removed yourself, are you an OP/Admin?

    And are you running vanilla server?
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