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    posted a message on Ambient Mobs

    I like the idea, however it is implemented. This has my support.

    Posted in: Suggestions
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    posted a message on Mojang is adding too much to minecraft
    Quote from Lord_Garak»

    I have no clue what you're trying to say.

    And since the main developer left the project we do not entirely, and the community is commonly ignored on the most important occasions, that isn't everything we have. Part of it.

    The developer purposefully left his game to another developer. Are you saying that succession is not part of a developer's vision? That purposefully no longer working on the game is not part of his desires for the game?

    Or on the flipside, are you saying that the developer's vision is a flawless thing that doesn't need to be questioned or altered? That another developer couldn't possibly do as good a job as the original, and their vision will never be good enough to fill the void? If Notch had a vision of bananas jumping around singing "I'm a dancing peapod!" added to the game, would you have been fine with that?

    The community is listened to. Remember the Combat Update? That didn't come out of a vaccuum, you know. It was constantly tweaked until it was released. And then tweaked a bit more. Remember when Mojang changed a thing and then changed it back because of the community? What exactly is so important? Do the majority actually get ignored, or is it a small group of outraged people? Have you actually checked?


    What kind of additions do you want to see? Which additions would you like to get rid of? Why? If unnecessary updates aren't bad, what was all that talk about "icing" for?
    Posted in: Recent Updates and Snapshots
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    posted a message on Mojang is adding too much to minecraft
    Quote from Lord_Garak»

    Physics are necessary. Controls are necessary. Mob AI is necessary.


    Should we never add anything else? And if not, what is worth adding and what is not? What are your standards? Are they consistent? If not, why should anyone listen to you?

    Posted in: Recent Updates and Snapshots
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    posted a message on Mojang is adding too much to minecraft
    Quote from SamsterBirdies»

    I hate the new updates. All they do is make unnecessary changes just so their boss thinks they are doing work and can get their paycheck.


    Define "necessary."
    Posted in: Recent Updates and Snapshots
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    posted a message on Mojang is adding too much to minecraft
    Quote from Is2005»

    I talked about my own empirical experience. I've seen friends try to change to the newest versions and realize they were way heavier than the old ones. I have people with whom I'm close where I could see those issues manifest first-hand. I'm not a professional coder either, but I have classes in school so I know just enough to be able to recognize an elegant design as opposed to a complicated one. Minecraft code is becoming more and more complicated, and without any real advantage. The whole JSON thing, for example, is kind of weird. JSON is meant mainly for data transmission, not as config/database format. Minecraft was never a master piece of coding, and what they are doing now is to build on top of what was a very simple engine, adding implementation of modern coding patterns to it.

    This is what I see. I have no way (and nobody does) of providing you with proof. You don't want to believe me, that's 100% fine, I salute you, and we go our separate ways. Don't try to discredit my words by claiming I don't support them with statistics, because it makes you look like a person who just recently discovered critical thinking and wants to show off to the world.

    But for your benefit, I'll be testing Minecraft version performances in the near future, and I'll present the results I obtain here, just to be told my testing strategy was wrong.


    Or you could... you know... PM me with your testing strategy, we could go through it together, and agree that whatever the result is, we will agree to honor it? You know, like intelligent people who are willing to admit to being wrong? And if I am, then I will use your data and experience being on the "other side" to help convince others.

    I asked for statistics. More specifically (and not stated), statistics about people liking 1.7 better. Which is actually most measurable by statistics, and not by your various friends supporting your confirmation bias. The rest would not be measurable by statistics. I was cherry-picking just one of your statements because I am thoroughly tired of this crap. I apologize for giving you a false impression. I should have asked for generic evidence or proof instead. I will adjust my behavioral mechanisms to change this for the future.

    We're probably off-topic, as I don't think coding bloat is the same as feature bloat, which is what this thread is about. Anything further should be moved to PM.
    Posted in: Recent Updates and Snapshots
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    posted a message on Mojang is adding too much to minecraft
    Quote from Is2005»

    I don't think so, do you want me to provide you the statistics or would you rather go take a look for yourself, cause I don't think any peer-reviewed studies have ever been made on this. So If I went to all the trouble to compile a bunch of statistics, would you then believe me? I could use a flawed methodology to skew the result to prove my hypothesis, right? So if you don't believe me now, I assume any statistics I can gather myself would also be of little help to the credibility of what I'm saying... right? So, unless you find an independent study on this, which, I'm not gonna raise your hopes, I don't believe even Mojang has the statistics you're demanding. You know, it's cool and all to be objective and to look for hard proof (or, in your case, statistical proof, which is considered to be the same as nothing by many), but sometimes, specially in a thread about Minecraft, you have to admit asking for statistics just sound pedantic, pseudo-intellectual and extremely silly. Do like I did, and go see for yourself.


    I'd take a look myself, but I don't see anything to look at. The loudest voices are the ones I see, and they're all shouting different things with a sense of superiority. What should I be looking at? The hundred pages of people complaining for reasons that are purely emotional? FPS info which varies for everyone, even two people with the exact same computer, for no discernible reason? Mojang, who made the updates? The Optifine guys, who complain about it? Perhaps I should look at the code itself... except oh wait, I'm not a programmer. I could understand the context of Minecraft's code, but no one's giving it.

    There's a reason I'm asking for proof: I don't know. I cannot say one way or another what's going on. Given my own personal experience, I do not think what you are saying is true. However, given that, and I quote myself, "info varies for everyone, even two people with the exact same computer, for no discernible reason," I am more than willing to believe that I am holding onto a false point of view based on limited data, if you can prove what you're saying.

    I don't care what proof you want to give. Just give more than none and stop tossing unsupported assertions into an echo chamber. If you are so confident in what you are saying, then prove it. Where are you getting your info? "Seeing for yourself?" What are you seeing? How? How can you know that you are right? Anecdotal evidence that's worthless? Emotional arguments based on interpretation? At the very least please make it so that I don't have to read your mind to know what you're talking about. If you have enough reason for me to believe you, then I will.

    Posted in: Recent Updates and Snapshots
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    posted a message on Minecraft 2, Part 4: The Crafting (Updated 9/15/17)

    This is another part of the suggestion where if I understood where you were going, if I had a complete picture, I may have a different opinion. You are slowing things ridiculously down and making parts of the game really annoying if they were to exist in Minecraft 1. I have to go find a gravel to even craft basic 3x3 items? What happens if I spawn in a savannah biome? Do I take forty years to find a single block, and in the meantime am forced to stay on the surface for lack of a pick? I sincerely hope there is more early-game content, but I can't know and if you're planning on it I still can't know if it's good enough to compensate.


    The furnace seems overcomplicated. While it's probably not that bad, I think your explanation of it could be made better.


    The anvil is outright ludicrous in the same way that requiring people to find flint for crafting tables is. Again, whatever early-game content you're planning must make up for using dozens of resources for everything, and because I cannot read your mind or the future I'm stuck wondering if you even know what you're doing.


    So enchantment gems are like enchanted books? Is enchanting gems still random?


    Potions are not underpowered, they just take some planning. I don't often use them because I do not often have the need to be overpowered. I don't think this is solved by doing something to potions, but rather by increasing the amount of situations in which people have need of them.

    Posted in: Suggestions
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    posted a message on Mojang is adding too much to minecraft
    Quote from TheTux99»

    that sounds weird, but it's true


    Everyone has actual reasons for their opinions. Feelings are spawned from objective reality. Figure out what exactly caused your feelings to be that way, and why those things affected you so, and then perhaps you may have a point.
    Posted in: Recent Updates and Snapshots
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    posted a message on PVP is boring and kind of pointless

    You've realized the problem, which you tell us. But then you give zero information on anything that would fix it. You're not suggesting anything. You're not even past the brainstorming part of an idea.


    Please only post complete suggestions.

    Posted in: Suggestions
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    posted a message on Golden Armor/Tools: Why?
    Quote from Ptolemy2002»

    This thread was made to ask about some of the only completely useless items I have found in Minecraft:



    GOLD TOOLS!


    This stuff is completely useless for these reasons:


    • Durability. Any golden tool or armor has the worst durability in the game besides leather.
    • Obtainability. Gold is rarer than iron and only obtainable by an iron pickaxe, but anything that is made of iron is better than anything made of gold.
    • Protection. A full set of golden armor gives you the exact amount of protection as a full set of leather armor. You're better off getting the leather because it is more obtainable.

    Now, there is 1 good thing about golden tools and armor, and that is enchantability. However, if you get your gold stuff enchanted, it doesn't even matter because it will break almost immediately. What's more, you can't repair it that much because gold is very rare.


    I realize that they added the gold to make golden apples, but why golden tools and armor? They are completely useless!


    Agreed. I've been working for years on ideas that might fix the problem, but the closest I've gotten is "just remove them."
    Posted in: Discussion
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