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Quote from Wolfhusband»

It helps if you read the entire post. My problem with kids and GTA V should be evident in itself but I guess not so here it is again. Steve doesn' stumble about the minecraft world cursing, being over-the-top violent or just taking a break with a few puffs a few drinks and a few (keyword here) adult entertainers. I have no problem with kids playing games in general as your comment makes it sound.

Okay, before I get a bunch of hate, I'm just going to ask that the people viewing this thread read everything that I have to say before going on a rant spree. I'm not sure how the forums work anymore so if this type of thread isn't allowed, feel free to lock it.

6-7 months ago, all I played constantly was Minecraft. I ate, breathed, and dreamed Minecraft. I remember specifically that I had a survival world that I had spent around the 500-600 hour range in. Minecraft still, to this date, is my most played game, probably of all time. I had countless thousand hours of fun mining, exploring, and playing online with friends. I was really active here on the Minecraft forums, contributing to many articles and often getting in forum battles that resulted in me getting a temporary ban. Minecraft held a special connection to me, considering it was the one thing that truly comforted me during many hard times. I made new friends online, and I could easily escape from everything by simply just entering my survival world.

Then one day, I decided that I wanted to play a bit of Team Fortress 2. I had loads of fun just messing around, talking to the community, ect. I played it for a couple of hours and returned to Minecraft. There was something about it that was different. I just couldn't get immersed like I could before. Everything felt really boring and stale. I frequently caught myself minimizing the game to watch YouTube videos of other games.

About a week later, I bought CS:GO. CS:GO gave me such a feeling of progression. A feeling that what I was doing actually required some degree of skill and mastery. Minecraft gave a progression vibe, but it gave an in-game progression vibe. CS:GO actually gave me a feeling of personal progression.

Months passed, and I racked up over 300 hours in CS:GO and made it out of the silver leagues. When I got my first Gold Nova 1 rank, it was an achievement unlike anything I had ever experienced in Minecraft. A cloud of pride and excitement came over me. It almost made me feel like I became a new person.

Then I remembered that it is just a game.

A couple more months passed, playing a couple of side games, but mainly playing CS:GO. It had been nearly 5 months since I had touched or even thought of Minecraft. Then GTA V came out for PC. Within nearly a month and a half, I had already racked up 300 hours. As soon as I stopped playing Minecraft, it's almost like I began to see gaming in a whole other light.

And here I am today. Haven't touched Minecraft in nearly 7ish months, and I don't miss it. There are games that I haven't played in years, but there is a difference between those and Minecraft. I actually feel the want to re-experience those games. Minecraft just lost what it had that was special to me. Then I realized that it is a phase.

This is going to be my last thread here on the forums. If you're addicted to Minecraft and that's all you play, breathe and think about, I'm telling you now. Go experience what else gaming has to offer. You won't regret it.

Quote from Hunter»

I have one copy of Insurgency to give out. Any takers?

Quote from echonite»

Only if they kept instant healing. But before hunger, food did not stack, so I fail to see how it would be over powered.

I would actually prefer a heal over time effect with different strengths and duration for different foods. So something like bread can be used for general healing, and the more advanced foods for the intense fights or dire situations.

Quote from TheMasterCaver»

Why would somebody prefer pumpkin pie? Sure, it restores as much hunger as a steak but has terrible saturation; in fact the total hunger+saturation they give is only as much as the saturation alone from a steak. They are also more complicated to make than most other foods, except cake and rabbit stew, requiring chicken, sugarcane, and pumpkin farms (you also might as well eat chicken instead, which is better overall).

The ultimate food of course is golden carrots as they restore more saturation than any other food and nearly the most hunger+saturation overall (the relatively low hunger restored means you don't lose as much if you eat before your hunger drops down enough to avoid wastage, making them a good food in situations where you need to frequently eat to heal).

Also, I thought this was an interesting look on how long food lasts; mind that I haven't eaten every one of those with perhaps a thousand in chests at various bases; I could also be eating golden carrots and easily get enough gold for them (of course, 99.99999% of players don't play like I do, but a gold farm would easily meet the needs):

Quote from TheMasterCaver»

There are much better foods than bread; for example, I eat baked potatoes, which are far better since you get an average of 1.5 per crop (minus replanting) as opposed to requiring three wheat to make one bread; even in 1.8 (which "nerfed" them to restore as much hunger as bread) they are still 4.5 times better in terms of food value from the same size farm, and I use a Fortune III pickaxe to harvest them, making them 9 times better, or 10.8 since I'm still playing on 1.6.4 (three stacks from a tiny 8x8 farm; I spend maybe a couple minutes out of 24 hours of playtime harvesting food; half a stack is also enough for me to explore enough caves to use 1,000 torches, kill 200-300 mobs, and mine 3,000+ ore (including enough coal to cook another 16,000 potatoes; of course, you can even use planks, 6 items per log used, without having to mine); I also often only eat because I am down to one hunger bar left, so I don't need to eat often due to saturation being maxed out. Feeding wheat to cows and killing them with a Looting sword (plus Fire Aspect for no cooking required) is also probably even better, in 1.8 or otherwise, if somewhat more involved (need to grow and harvest wheat, then feed cows, wait 20 minutes, then repeat).

In fact, a while ago for fun I decided to see how much I could do without eating anything since spawning - I was able to get a stack of iron and even 5 diamonds in a cave and still had two hunger bars left (at which I just had to kill a few sheep; of course, I was in 1.8 with buggy mob spawning/AI and very small cave systems (the Wiki calls the vast cave systems present before 1.7 "monster nests" for good reason) so I only encountered a single skeleton which was too confused to shoot me).

In other words, I see nothing at all wrong with the hunger system if I can get that many resources on so little food obtained for so little effort (without automated farms), considering that you can carry multiple stacks, and many people say that stackable food is overpowered and should be removed). The old system also had food act like potions of healing, I believe with no eating animation either so you could instantly heal, unstackable food not being a big issue give the above.

Of course, the first thing I always make is a wooden pickaxe - and never bother making anything else besides swords and hoes out of wood as stone tools are twice as fast, the biggest single upgrade you can make (iron is three times faster and diamond is four times faster, so you have to skip a tier to double the speed again), although 1.6.4 requires that you make a wooden sword and hoe in order to get the achievements, but those are more useful.

Quote from echonite»

Make a hoe and start a farm. I rarely use anything beyond bread. I absolutely despise the hunger system.

Quote from NICKPICK66»

How about for foods?
Wouldn't you need a sword for food?