Since it sounds like an SMP issue, then I think the answer would depend on how it would effect your servers economy or pvp/faction balance. While I generally feel the same as the above responders, if you have some kind of plugin that gives money or trade value for ender orbs or if a pvp faction has a large amount of orbs to teleport all over with then it could be a problem to allow farming of them.
whats the best way to get the initial orbs to even find the stronghold?
I went out to a plain biome, made a basic shelter, then hunted for a couple nights. Easier to see mobs around you that way and the enderman has plenty of places to teleport to nearby. A little bit unsettling though to be out in the open with mobs spawning all around you.
I only expended one eye of the 5 or 6 I had though to find my stronghold. I tossed that one about 6-8 times before it broke. Best suggestion is to travel a ways in the same direction before tossing it again. If it goes back the other way then you know you overshot your mark, but that just means you're close.
Since it sounds like an SMP issue, then I think the answer would depend on how it would effect your servers economy or pvp/faction balance. While I generally feel the same as the above responders, if you have some kind of plugin that gives money or trade value for ender orbs or if a pvp faction has a large amount of orbs to teleport all over with then it could be a problem to allow farming of them.
That's exactly what it is. Faction server with iconomy. Killing mobs will give you money and you can sell things and buy anything at shops. They later on disabled enderpearls since they were abused very badly to teleport through walls, but you could still sell them for money. The farm took me 18 hours to build and I spent nearly $30,000 (Diamonds are $500 ea, if that gives you an idea) working on it.
Since the server has iconomy, many people race to see who has the most money, and generally the person with the most wealth gains respect and fear for factions. Now for my faction, we designated one person to represent our monetary wealth of our faction, so his balance was extremely high because we never let him buy anything. My friend accidently types ".balancetop" instead of "/balancetop" and so now most people start checking the top balances. Of course 1st place in money was the owner, but 2nd place belonged to us. So this person (we'll call him Bob) challenges our monetary representative (we'll call him Steve) to see who could get the most money in one day. We told him he had no chance (because Enderman gave $57.00 a kill). He was a full time diamond miner and could only get $250.00 for each diamond he sold. The owner then unexpectedly says, "Don't worry, Bob has me". We ask him what he means but he doesn't respond after that.
So my friend Steve starts farming away on those Enderman, and all of a sudden the lever (which raised and lowered the ground by 1 block to instant kill or leave an Enderman with one heart left) stops working. My friend tells me and I go to check out the redstone, only to find it "freshly" broken everywhere. There were only 3 people on the server at the time, Steve and I and the owner. When I hit /tab/ on my keyboard, it only showed 2 players, but when I typed "/list" it showed the owner, too, meaning he was in invisible mode so no one could see him. Also being in a faction server, you can't destroy/build on other faction's territory unless you have claimed the territory, so it was flat out obvious the owner did it. I kindly ask him to not break the redstone in our End farm, as it took me over 18 hours to build it and I didn't want to have to rebuild it. He pretends like he doesn't know what was going on, and I tell him that I know he plays tricks like these on players (placing and destroying blocks while invisible). He ignores what I say and keeps asking about what was broken (I'm pretty sure he was a little steamed after his devious tricks had been disclosed by me).
Now the owner teleports to us after asking what we were doing, and we replied that we were at our Enderman farm. He starts flying around and asks us what the thing was. We tell him it is our Enderman farm. And for some reason, he becomes angry and destroys the pistons and blocks up the farm. He threatens us to destroy it before he does it for us, and so we ask him why. He calls us stupid and retarded because we didn't know the reason why we had to destroy it.. then he says the whole farm is retarded and pointless. The reason we had to get rid of it was because it was an "exploit", and he said the worst part was that we were "hiding" it from him. I had just finished building the farm a night ago and never got to use it and had just gotten back on after coming back from school. And as far as I know, the owner was too busy playing Counter Strike or doing something else to get on the server to check. I told him we didn't know it was an "exploit" and he just explodes. He yells at us, asking if we were retarded and resets Steve's money from just over $100K to $10K, when he had barely even made money off the farm. He then sets the price of Enderpearls from $10.00 to $0.00. I ask him why the farm is an exploit, and he can't even back it up. He just says it's insane how much money you can make off of it. So I ask him if regular Mob Systems or even if Mob Spawner traps are exploits, and he says yes and the people who make them are retarded, too. Obviously nothing he said backed up and justified his actions for destroying our farm and resetting Steve's money. I'm suspecting that destroying the redstone wiring at first was just to help Bob, as he previously said before "Don't worry, Bob has me", but then after that he probably just got mad because he couldn't back up an argument and decided to go rage mode on us.
After all, in the rules, there is no where that says exploits aren't allowed. Though at one point, the auto-messages said that, "If you found any exploits, report it to the owner and you will be greatly rewarded." It never said, "If you don't report it, you will be greatly punished." And we didn't even think it was considered an "exploit". Even the Head-Admin visited the Enderman farm and said it was nice. So I'm thinking the owner is very biased and is trying to help certain players, though I can't be positive.
(I need to know because of something that happened in an SMP server. If this gets enough votes, I'll tell you the reason :D)
uhm, what?
by c0yote
I tried it with terrible results. I gave my wife my glasses for a second, a creeper showed up and now my wife is pregnant.
Stupid 3D..
I went out to a plain biome, made a basic shelter, then hunted for a couple nights. Easier to see mobs around you that way and the enderman has plenty of places to teleport to nearby. A little bit unsettling though to be out in the open with mobs spawning all around you.
I only expended one eye of the 5 or 6 I had though to find my stronghold. I tossed that one about 6-8 times before it broke. Best suggestion is to travel a ways in the same direction before tossing it again. If it goes back the other way then you know you overshot your mark, but that just means you're close.
by c0yote
I tried it with terrible results. I gave my wife my glasses for a second, a creeper showed up and now my wife is pregnant.
Stupid 3D..
That's exactly what it is. Faction server with iconomy. Killing mobs will give you money and you can sell things and buy anything at shops. They later on disabled enderpearls since they were abused very badly to teleport through walls, but you could still sell them for money. The farm took me 18 hours to build and I spent nearly $30,000 (Diamonds are $500 ea, if that gives you an idea) working on it.
Since the server has iconomy, many people race to see who has the most money, and generally the person with the most wealth gains respect and fear for factions. Now for my faction, we designated one person to represent our monetary wealth of our faction, so his balance was extremely high because we never let him buy anything. My friend accidently types ".balancetop" instead of "/balancetop" and so now most people start checking the top balances. Of course 1st place in money was the owner, but 2nd place belonged to us. So this person (we'll call him Bob) challenges our monetary representative (we'll call him Steve) to see who could get the most money in one day. We told him he had no chance (because Enderman gave $57.00 a kill). He was a full time diamond miner and could only get $250.00 for each diamond he sold. The owner then unexpectedly says, "Don't worry, Bob has me". We ask him what he means but he doesn't respond after that.
So my friend Steve starts farming away on those Enderman, and all of a sudden the lever (which raised and lowered the ground by 1 block to instant kill or leave an Enderman with one heart left) stops working. My friend tells me and I go to check out the redstone, only to find it "freshly" broken everywhere. There were only 3 people on the server at the time, Steve and I and the owner. When I hit /tab/ on my keyboard, it only showed 2 players, but when I typed "/list" it showed the owner, too, meaning he was in invisible mode so no one could see him. Also being in a faction server, you can't destroy/build on other faction's territory unless you have claimed the territory, so it was flat out obvious the owner did it. I kindly ask him to not break the redstone in our End farm, as it took me over 18 hours to build it and I didn't want to have to rebuild it. He pretends like he doesn't know what was going on, and I tell him that I know he plays tricks like these on players (placing and destroying blocks while invisible). He ignores what I say and keeps asking about what was broken (I'm pretty sure he was a little steamed after his devious tricks had been disclosed by me).
Now the owner teleports to us after asking what we were doing, and we replied that we were at our Enderman farm. He starts flying around and asks us what the thing was. We tell him it is our Enderman farm. And for some reason, he becomes angry and destroys the pistons and blocks up the farm. He threatens us to destroy it before he does it for us, and so we ask him why. He calls us stupid and retarded because we didn't know the reason why we had to destroy it.. then he says the whole farm is retarded and pointless. The reason we had to get rid of it was because it was an "exploit", and he said the worst part was that we were "hiding" it from him. I had just finished building the farm a night ago and never got to use it and had just gotten back on after coming back from school. And as far as I know, the owner was too busy playing Counter Strike or doing something else to get on the server to check. I told him we didn't know it was an "exploit" and he just explodes. He yells at us, asking if we were retarded and resets Steve's money from just over $100K to $10K, when he had barely even made money off the farm. He then sets the price of Enderpearls from $10.00 to $0.00. I ask him why the farm is an exploit, and he can't even back it up. He just says it's insane how much money you can make off of it. So I ask him if regular Mob Systems or even if Mob Spawner traps are exploits, and he says yes and the people who make them are retarded, too. Obviously nothing he said backed up and justified his actions for destroying our farm and resetting Steve's money. I'm suspecting that destroying the redstone wiring at first was just to help Bob, as he previously said before "Don't worry, Bob has me", but then after that he probably just got mad because he couldn't back up an argument and decided to go rage mode on us.
After all, in the rules, there is no where that says exploits aren't allowed. Though at one point, the auto-messages said that, "If you found any exploits, report it to the owner and you will be greatly rewarded." It never said, "If you don't report it, you will be greatly punished." And we didn't even think it was considered an "exploit". Even the Head-Admin visited the Enderman farm and said it was nice. So I'm thinking the owner is very biased and is trying to help certain players, though I can't be positive.