I begin with the picture of every thing's beginning,
Where therein lies Venn's image,
And the ornament from the door of the Chalice.
But I grow, now within me a three-foot rests,
The sign of the grandest author(s),
Or perhaps the witches' goddess of SEAL.
I grow yet again, as all the children grow inside,
And once I reach a second form,
The green might call me home, for a time.
I'll continue to grow, and when I am full,
You could pull from me an insensate Ent,
Or the category of Persephone's undoing,
Or call me that from which this unfolds,
And annex the target of Ankou.
But regardless of my perfumes,
I am a friend of priests and numberphiles alike.
Okay, so the beginning of the answer is the "picture of everything's beginning", and within this picture, lies the "Venn Diagram" and the "ornament from the 'door' of the 'Chalice'" (Now, why is it capitilized? Could it be the [Religious reference head] Lord's cup? [Or looking at the post below me, the door of this Chalice Wells Garden])
And when this answer "grows", "within" it rests the "sign of the grandest author(s), or this witches' goddess of "SEAL". (SEAL, all capitilized, perhaps it's an acronym?)
I'm feeling as if there's a riddle within this riddle D:
I begin with the picture of every thing's beginning, zero? nothing?
Where therein lies Venn's image, a ring or circle?
And the ornament from the door of the Chalice. no idea
But I grow, now within me a three-foot (yard?) rests,
The sign of the grandest author(s),
Or perhaps the witches' goddess of SEAL. SEAL could reference Navy SEAL or "Sea Air and Land" implying that the goddess is mother earth
I grow yet again, as all the children grow inside, mytosis/cytokinesis?
And once I reach a second form, metamorphosis?
The green might call me home, for a time. green... new? envious? inexperienced? vegetative?
I'll continue to grow, and when I am full,
You could pull from me an insensate Ent,
Or the category of Persephone's undoing,
Or call me that from which this unfolds, cause and effect? a seed?
And annex the target of Ankou.
But regardless of my perfumes,
I am a friend of priests and numberphiles alike. infinity?
Alright, so what is it? Also, since I think this was a good idea, I'll ask you to give me some reasoning for each guess. Not a line-by-line analysis if you don't want to, but whatever made your guess occur to you.
Nota bene: all punctuation, capitalization, and spelling is intentional.
If my ideas are anywhere on track, then there is a strong motif of overlapping circles or cells. But I'm not sure what sort of answer that would point to and there are several lines that I have no idea how to interpret. I did get an interesting image when I googled "door of the chalice". The Chalice Well Gardens entrance in England has a paving stone pattern of two overlapping circles inside of a larger circle. Either that is a very obscure clue or else its just a random coincidence...
If my ideas are anywhere on track, then there is a strong motif of overlapping circles or cells. But I'm not sure what sort of answer that would point to and there are several lines that I have no idea how to interpret. I did get an interesting image when I googled "door of the chalice". The Chalice Well Gardens entrance in England has a paving stone pattern of two overlapping circles inside of a larger circle. Either that is a very obscure clue or else its just a random coincidence...
Those circles are something very like the Venn Diagram, assuming you don't know.
Everything's beginning, is this a circle, or even a dot? Dots make lines which makes shapes. Considering the riddle, there happens to be lots of transformation.
A dot is the beginning, when it "grows" it will become a line. And when it grows again, it could possibly become a shape, or more likely something that's almost a shape. When this becomes "full" it is then a shape. Perhaps a circle.
Alnar, I could solve it, but to do so would just be irritating in the extreme. Brain expects verse to have proper rhyme and structure. Doesn't like it when it's just slapped together ;P
I'll have a look at as much as I can tolerate, though. Crest, structure your verses properly!
The first three lines remind me of another type of riddle where the clues help you spell out the thing, rather than actually describing it. From those lines, with that logic, the first letter could be O or B...
Okay, so the beginning of the answer is the "picture of everything's beginning", and within this picture, lies the "Venn Diagram" and the "ornament from the 'door' of the 'Chalice'" (Now, why is it capitilized? Could it be the [Religious reference head] Lord's cup? [Or looking at the post below me, the door of this Chalice Wells Garden])
Yes . Actually, the Chalice Well itself. If you look up what that ornament is, you might be a bit disappointed at first, but just keep digging...
And when this answer "grows", "within" it rests the "sign of the grandest author(s), or this witches' goddess of "SEAL". (SEAL, all capitilized, perhaps it's an acronym?)
It is. Someone below figured it out.
I'm feeling as if there's a riddle within this riddle D:
If my ideas are anywhere on track, then there is a strong motif of overlapping circles or cells.
Someone saw it . And, because we've sort of been dancing around the the other themes, I will clarify them: the other common threads through the riddle are "nature" and "life and death." These are not the answers in themselves, but were meant to get you thinking along the right lines once you discovered this other very important point which ATG (I hope you don't mind the abbreviation) just mentioned.
Also, in regard to your bolded notes: they were mostly wrong, with the exception of your interpretation of the acronym SEAL (though the goddess is not mother earth, you have her domain right... earlier in the line, I mention that she is the goddess of witches, so try to follow these two clues), and your interpretation of "green" as "new."
But I'm not sure what sort of answer that would point to and there are several lines that I have no idea how to interpret. I did get an interesting image when I googled "door of the chalice". The Chalice Well Gardens entrance in England has a paving stone pattern of two overlapping circles inside of a larger circle. Either that is a very obscure clue or else its just a random coincidence...
Everything's beginning, is this a circle, or even a dot? Dots make lines which makes shapes. Considering the riddle, there happens to be lots of transformation.
No to the dot thing, and you would be more right to say it is an "adding on" rather than a transformation.
A dot is the beginning, when it "grows" it will become a line. And when it grows again, it could possibly become a shape, or more likely something that's almost a shape. When this becomes "full" it is then a shape. Perhaps a circle.
Is the answer a circle?
Shapes maybe?
You're getting somewhere with that, but neither one is the answer.
Alnar, I could solve it, but to do so would just be irritating in the extreme. Brain expects verse to have proper rhyme and structure. Doesn't like it when it's just slapped together ;P
I'll have a look at as much as I can tolerate, though. Crest, structure your verses properly!
Aw, but it's so much more fun this way
The first three lines remind me of another type of riddle where the clues help you spell out the thing, rather than actually describing it. From those lines, with that logic, the first letter could be O or B...
That's not what I was going for.... and also, if anyone wants to be helpful, feel free to make a compilation of all the clues gathered so far (but be sure to spoiler it :P).
Reposting for convenience
I begin with the picture of every thing's beginning, Where therein lies Venn's image, And the ornament from the door of the Chalice. But I grow, now within me a three-foot rests, The sign of the grandest author(s), Or perhaps the witches' goddess of SEAL. I grow yet again, as all the children grow inside, And once I reach a second form, The green might call me home, for a time. I'll continue to grow, and when I am full, You could pull from me an insensate Ent, Or the category of Persephone's undoing, Or call me that from which this unfolds, And annex the target of Ankou. But regardless of my perfumes, I am a friend of priests and numberphiles alike.
I'd say the witches' goddess is Hecate, but apparently, she isn't, at least not in this riddle.
That Venn Diagram, Chalice Wells symbol is more commonly called a Vesica Piscis. Or bladder of a fish. Which symbolizes a solar eclipse more commonly.
This is definitely a riddle within a riddle D:
I'd say the witches' goddess is Hecate, but apparently, she isn't, at least not in this riddle.
That Venn Diagram, Chalice Wells symbol is more commonly called a Vesica Piscis. Or bladder of a fish. Which symbolizes a solar eclipse more commonly.
This is definitely a riddle within a riddle D:
Vesica Piscis... that's good. Run with that
Also, I could tell you what I mean by "witches' goddess," but that might be a bit too much... go for one more guess, and if you don't get it then and if you want the hint, I'll give it to ya.
Is the answer, the Flower of Life? Tree of Life even?
It is a vast pattern, think of as a repetition of the Vesica Piscis in a floral pattern. It begins with nothing, everything's beginning, and within it, lies the image of Venn (Venn Diagram) and the ornament from the door of the Chalice (The Chalice Wells' gate/door) and this pattern basically has many forms, and continues to "grow". It is a friend both to priest and "numberphiles" (Mathematicians) because of it's sacred meaning and geometrical properties.
Should it not be the answer, though I really think it is, here's a link to the thing itself. Within this, will most probably be an answer.
Is the answer, the Flower of Life? Tree of Life even?
It is a vast pattern, think of as a repetition of the Vesica Piscis in a floral pattern. It begins with nothing, everything's beginning, and within it, lies the image of Venn (Venn Diagram) and the ornament from the door of the Chalice (The Chalice Wells' gate/door) and this pattern basically has many forms, and continues to "grow". It is a friend both to priest and "numberphiles" (Mathematicians) because of it's sacred meaning and geometrical properties.
Should it not be the answer, though I really think it is, here's a link to the thing itself. Within this, will most probably be an answer.
I believe this riddle is cracked wide open. Or close to it at least.
Winner!
...And, for those who are curious, here's the full explanation:
I begin with the picture of every thing's beginning,
The beginning of the Flower of Life, or at least one of its base components, is called the Seed of Life. It is said to symbolize the 7 days of creation in Jewish and Christian theology. Where therein lies Venn's image,
...which contains many Venn Diagrams And the ornament from the door of the Chalice.
The door of the Chalice Well displays a symbol which sort of is a Venn diagram, but I hoped that anyone who looked it up would discover the term "Vesica Piscis," leading to the answer. But I grow, now within me a three-foot rests,
The Tripod of Life is a component of the Flower of Life, made by adding one more circle to the two forming the Vesica Piscis. The sign of the grandest author(s),
It has stood as a symbol for the Judeo-Christian Trinity, as well as... Or perhaps the witches' goddess of SEAL.
The Wiccan (witches') Moon Goddess, and her domain: SEa, Air, and Land (an irrelevant reference to the Navy SEALs by the way) I grow yet again, as all the children grow inside,
As the flower grows, another symbol can be pulled from it called the "Egg of Life," said to depict the cell cluster that we all were a few hours after conception. And once I reach a second form, The green might call me home, for a time.
Since the cell cluster reference was a bit more obscure in that you probably could not find it as easily by following clues, I tried to include a mini-riddle to give you the term "egg." "Green," here, refers to the inexperienced, new, or young, which once called an egg home. I'll continue to grow, and when I am full,
Just add a few more circles to complete the Flower... You could pull from me an insensate Ent,
"Ent is derived from an Anglo-Saxon word for "giant," but in the sense most of us would recognize, popularized by J.R.R. Tolkien and marked by the capitalization of the word, it is a large animated tree. An "insensate Ent," therefore, is just a tree. The Tree of Life, as Alnar mentioned, is another component of the fully formed Flower of Life. Or the category of Persephone's undoing,
Persephone's undoing being a pomegranate, the "category" would simply be "fruit." The Fruit of Life is another component of the fully formed Flower, and the reference to Persephone was there to ensure that all you solvers would begin thinking in terms of symbolism, because, as you might have been able to tell, there's a lot of it in this riddle Or call me that from which this unfolds,
This was included for those who know nothing of all this symbolism. The thing from which a fruit unfolds is, of course, a flower. And annex the target of Ankou.
And if you annex (add on) the target of Ankou (Ankou is a personification of death from areas of medieval France and England, so his target would be "life"), you get "Flower Life," which is close enough to the answer that I think you could figure it out from there. But regardless of my perfumes,
Just another reference to flowers to round things out. I am a friend of priests and numberphiles alike.
The Flower of Life has long been an important religious and mathematical symbol, used in cultures worldwide and in Pythagorean geometry respectively, and this line was meant to be most useful as an early guide to narrowing down the category of the answer.
I can't think of a riddle as of now, and I'll be gone for about 20-22 hours from now, so yeah, post brain teasers and side-riddles. Or if vexx deems it rightful, (and you guys are eager to get another riddle) go ahead and post the next riddle.
Well, since this is not going anywhere, here's another. I'm actually writing this as I post this, so it'll probably be excessively confusing. My mind thinks in excessively complex ways.
I am the water that cools and ends the fire, No more destruction, decay nor desire. I am cool and fresh but yet not cold, Stable and strong for minds so bold. Cold and heat are nothing to me, For I am their end soon to be; Repairing lost hopes and shedding light, I cast 'way shadows afore dark night. When naught you see comes as may, Wield me well to venture t'wards day; I'll cleave and clear shadow's veil, With cool clear might's telling tale.
Green could mean beginner.
A Tree?
God?
The seven mages?
... If you're not gonna rhyme it, why's it in verse D:
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Okay, so the beginning of the answer is the "picture of everything's beginning", and within this picture, lies the "Venn Diagram" and the "ornament from the 'door' of the 'Chalice'" (Now, why is it capitilized? Could it be the [Religious reference head] Lord's cup? [Or looking at the post below me, the door of this Chalice Wells Garden])
And when this answer "grows", "within" it rests the "sign of the grandest author(s), or this witches' goddess of "SEAL". (SEAL, all capitilized, perhaps it's an acronym?)
I'm feeling as if there's a riddle within this riddle D:
If my ideas are anywhere on track, then there is a strong motif of overlapping circles or cells. But I'm not sure what sort of answer that would point to and there are several lines that I have no idea how to interpret. I did get an interesting image when I googled "door of the chalice". The Chalice Well Gardens entrance in England has a paving stone pattern of two overlapping circles inside of a larger circle. Either that is a very obscure clue or else its just a random coincidence...
Those circles are something very like the Venn Diagram, assuming you don't know.
Everything's beginning, is this a circle, or even a dot? Dots make lines which makes shapes. Considering the riddle, there happens to be lots of transformation.
A dot is the beginning, when it "grows" it will become a line. And when it grows again, it could possibly become a shape, or more likely something that's almost a shape. When this becomes "full" it is then a shape. Perhaps a circle.
Is the answer a circle?
Shapes maybe?
I'll have a look at as much as I can tolerate, though. Crest, structure your verses properly!
The first three lines remind me of another type of riddle where the clues help you spell out the thing, rather than actually describing it. From those lines, with that logic, the first letter could be O or B...
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Responses to guesses will usually contain hints
No for the moon thing, but bingo on "beginner." Though it might be more helpful to say "young," or as was mentioned below, "new."
Nopes
Aw
Yes . Actually, the Chalice Well itself. If you look up what that ornament is, you might be a bit disappointed at first, but just keep digging...
It is. Someone below figured it out.
RIDDLECEPTION!
Someone saw it . And, because we've sort of been dancing around the the other themes, I will clarify them: the other common threads through the riddle are "nature" and "life and death." These are not the answers in themselves, but were meant to get you thinking along the right lines once you discovered this other very important point which ATG (I hope you don't mind the abbreviation) just mentioned.
Also, in regard to your bolded notes: they were mostly wrong, with the exception of your interpretation of the acronym SEAL (though the goddess is not mother earth, you have her domain right... earlier in the line, I mention that she is the goddess of witches, so try to follow these two clues), and your interpretation of "green" as "new."
I'd go with "clue"
No to the dot thing, and you would be more right to say it is an "adding on" rather than a transformation.
You're getting somewhere with that, but neither one is the answer.
Aw, but it's so much more fun this way
That's not what I was going for.... and also, if anyone wants to be helpful, feel free to make a compilation of all the clues gathered so far (but be sure to spoiler it :P).
Reposting for convenience
I begin with the picture of every thing's beginning,
Where therein lies Venn's image,
And the ornament from the door of the Chalice.
But I grow, now within me a three-foot rests,
The sign of the grandest author(s),
Or perhaps the witches' goddess of SEAL.
I grow yet again, as all the children grow inside,
And once I reach a second form,
The green might call me home, for a time.
I'll continue to grow, and when I am full,
You could pull from me an insensate Ent,
Or the category of Persephone's undoing,
Or call me that from which this unfolds,
And annex the target of Ankou.
But regardless of my perfumes,
I am a friend of priests and numberphiles alike.
P.S.: I'll get a better signature eventually...
That Venn Diagram, Chalice Wells symbol is more commonly called a Vesica Piscis. Or bladder of a fish. Which symbolizes a solar eclipse more commonly.
This is definitely a riddle within a riddle D:
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Vesica Piscis... that's good. Run with that
Also, I could tell you what I mean by "witches' goddess," but that might be a bit too much... go for one more guess, and if you don't get it then and if you want the hint, I'll give it to ya.
Not a fractal, no, but...
it is a specific pattern.
P.S.: I'll get a better signature eventually...
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I think I may have gotten it.
Is the answer, the Flower of Life? Tree of Life even?
It is a vast pattern, think of as a repetition of the Vesica Piscis in a floral pattern. It begins with nothing, everything's beginning, and within it, lies the image of Venn (Venn Diagram) and the ornament from the door of the Chalice (The Chalice Wells' gate/door) and this pattern basically has many forms, and continues to "grow". It is a friend both to priest and "numberphiles" (Mathematicians) because of it's sacred meaning and geometrical properties.
Should it not be the answer, though I really think it is, here's a link to the thing itself. Within this, will most probably be an answer.
I believe this riddle is cracked wide open. Or close to it at least.
Note: Should the answer be correct and I am absent to post a riddle, feel free to post some brain teasers while I am gone.
Winner!
...And, for those who are curious, here's the full explanation:
I begin with the picture of every thing's beginning,
The beginning of the Flower of Life, or at least one of its base components, is called the Seed of Life. It is said to symbolize the 7 days of creation in Jewish and Christian theology.
Where therein lies Venn's image,
...which contains many Venn Diagrams
And the ornament from the door of the Chalice.
The door of the Chalice Well displays a symbol which sort of is a Venn diagram, but I hoped that anyone who looked it up would discover the term "Vesica Piscis," leading to the answer.
But I grow, now within me a three-foot rests,
The Tripod of Life is a component of the Flower of Life, made by adding one more circle to the two forming the Vesica Piscis.
The sign of the grandest author(s),
It has stood as a symbol for the Judeo-Christian Trinity, as well as...
Or perhaps the witches' goddess of SEAL.
The Wiccan (witches') Moon Goddess, and her domain: SEa, Air, and Land (an irrelevant reference to the Navy SEALs by the way)
I grow yet again, as all the children grow inside,
As the flower grows, another symbol can be pulled from it called the "Egg of Life," said to depict the cell cluster that we all were a few hours after conception.
And once I reach a second form,
The green might call me home, for a time.
Since the cell cluster reference was a bit more obscure in that you probably could not find it as easily by following clues, I tried to include a mini-riddle to give you the term "egg." "Green," here, refers to the inexperienced, new, or young, which once called an egg home.
I'll continue to grow, and when I am full,
Just add a few more circles to complete the Flower...
You could pull from me an insensate Ent,
"Ent is derived from an Anglo-Saxon word for "giant," but in the sense most of us would recognize, popularized by J.R.R. Tolkien and marked by the capitalization of the word, it is a large animated tree. An "insensate Ent," therefore, is just a tree. The Tree of Life, as Alnar mentioned, is another component of the fully formed Flower of Life.
Or the category of Persephone's undoing,
Persephone's undoing being a pomegranate, the "category" would simply be "fruit." The Fruit of Life is another component of the fully formed Flower, and the reference to Persephone was there to ensure that all you solvers would begin thinking in terms of symbolism, because, as you might have been able to tell, there's a lot of it in this riddle
Or call me that from which this unfolds,
This was included for those who know nothing of all this symbolism. The thing from which a fruit unfolds is, of course, a flower.
And annex the target of Ankou.
And if you annex (add on) the target of Ankou (Ankou is a personification of death from areas of medieval France and England, so his target would be "life"), you get "Flower Life," which is close enough to the answer that I think you could figure it out from there.
But regardless of my perfumes,
Just another reference to flowers to round things out.
I am a friend of priests and numberphiles alike.
The Flower of Life has long been an important religious and mathematical symbol, used in cultures worldwide and in Pythagorean geometry respectively, and this line was meant to be most useful as an early guide to narrowing down the category of the answer.
P.S.: I'll get a better signature eventually...
I can't think of a riddle as of now, and I'll be gone for about 20-22 hours from now, so yeah, post brain teasers and side-riddles. Or if vexx deems it rightful, (and you guys are eager to get another riddle) go ahead and post the next riddle.
Whelp, talk about an obscure subject for a riddle! Well done, Crest!
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I have my answer, yet I do not have my riddle. I'll get back as soon as I wrap it in a mystery.
Should be easy.
-To Come In A Few Hours-
Meanwhile, do you guys like stuff?
(Post small riddles in the meantime?)
I am the water that cools and ends the fire,
No more destruction, decay nor desire.
I am cool and fresh but yet not cold,
Stable and strong for minds so bold.
Cold and heat are nothing to me,
For I am their end soon to be;
Repairing lost hopes and shedding light,
I cast 'way shadows afore dark night.
When naught you see comes as may,
Wield me well to venture t'wards day;
I'll cleave and clear shadow's veil,
With cool clear might's telling tale.
What am I?
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