First, science has proven that all species are equally as valuable as us, everything from chimps to sea slugs. There is no scientific reason to place humans on a pedestal. Furthermore, at the root, these laws are based on the idea that any thing has value even though science has proven that everything is equally worthless. The belief that one thing is more desirable than another is based on sentimentality at best and delusion at worst, and I'm sure this forum agrees that laws based on delusion are of no value in an intelligent, scientifically-minded society.
Second, many who value in favor of anti-murder laws base their arguments on the idea of humans having souls, although they will sometimes disguise this belief using Sagan-like technobabble. Since the concept of the soul is a religious concept, and since the First Amendment of the United States constitution explicitly forbid laws which endorse religious beliefs, all anti-murder legislation should be nullified; hopefully there will be enough Atheist additions to the Supreme Court within out lifetimes to make this so.
What? I read the post and I'm getting you want humans to murder at any time they want?
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It's not that I want to, but there are compelling arguments in favor of abolition. Although I have to admit that the law is the main thing keeping me in check. :wink.gif:
Do you have any idea how much chaos there would be? some people are just mentally messed up and would kill everyone they see and get away with it, also this would bring a lot of dictatorship in the united states, its just a awful idea, also there would be mass terrorism, the country would seriously be wiped out
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“Science without religion is lame, religion without science is blind.”
The people responding are letting there morals get in their way and its blinding them to what you were saying. I fully agree with you. Others who do not are letting themselves be blind to the truth of the universe.
Do you have any idea how much chaos there would be? some people are just mentally messed up and would kill everyone they see and get away with it, also this would bring a lot of dictatorship in the united states, its just a awful idea, also there would be mass terrorism, the country would seriously be wiped out
If you wanted you could kill serial murderers or suspected terrorists. With anti-murder laws gone, you will be free to carry knives, guns, and other weapons with you at all times. Society would actually become safer once everyone willing to kill becomes sufficiently armed.
The people responding are letting there morals get in their way and its blinding them to what you were saying. I fully agree with you. Others who do not are letting themselves be blind to the truth of the universe.
Thank you! It's good to know that I have intellectual equals here.
If you wanted you could kill serial murderers or suspected terrorists. With anti-murder laws gone, you will be free to carry knives, guns, and other weapons with you at all times. Society would actually become safer once everyone willing to kill becomes sufficiently armed.
Thank you! It's good to know that I have intellectual equals here.
I actually agree with this statement and believe that it would indeed be safer. Think about it people would protect themselves and the ones who could not would die off which is exactly how our planet is supposed to be, not the strong protecting the weak.
Second, many who value in favor of anti-murder laws base their arguments on the idea of humans having souls, although they will sometimes disguise this belief using Sagan-like technobabble. Since the concept of the soul is a religious concept, and since the First Amendment of the United States constitution explicitly forbid laws which endorse religious beliefs, all anti-murder legislation should be nullified; hopefully there will be enough Atheist additions to the Supreme Court within out lifetimes to make this so.
O allah.
You do not have to be religious or atheistic to believe that everyone has the right to do whatever they want in their life, as long it does not interfere with anyone else's life- aka, murder, violence, etc. No "soul" part in that.
That, and I highly doubt (and I highly distrust) human's will be able to distinguish a "good" murder from a bad one. Taking justice into your hands is stupid, because you are most likely emotionally charged (revenge kills, etc.), and that clouds judgement. Makes it even scarier since this "would" happen in the US of A, where everyone has an above average IQ and the bestest morality in the world.
I actually thought this was going to be a good devil's advocate thread, but I am disappoint.
Its not legalized murder, its allowing the universe to flow exactly how it should.
The universe is for murder at any time?
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All right i've been thinking.. when life gives you lemons, don't make lemonade, MAKE LIFE TAKE THE LEMONS BACK. GET MAD! I DON'T WANT YOUR DAMN LEMONS! WHAT AM I SUPPOSED TO DO WITH THESE?
You do not have to be religious or atheistic to believe that everyone has the right to do whatever they want in their life, as long it does not interfere with anyone else's life- aka, murder, violence, etc. No "soul" part in that.
That, and I highly doubt (and I highly distrust) human's will be able to distinguish a "good" murder from a bad one. Taking justice into your hands is stupid, because you are most likely emotionally charged (revenge kills, etc.), and that clouds judgement. Makes it even scarier since this "would" happen in the US of A, where everyone has an above average IQ and the bestest morality in the world.
I actually thought this was going to be a good devil's advocate thread, but I am disappoint.
See but the problem is how can we judge murders now? Leaving justice how it is right now is no different than allowing it to be in the hands of the individual.
You are an idiot. Murder is bad no matter how you look at it.
Murder is only bad because you let your morals cloud your judgement. If you abolish your morals and think how animals think (which we are in case you didnt know we are not any better than other animals) then it is not murder its survival of the fittest.
The universe is letting the weak die and the strong survive. You kill your enemies and people you do not like that is how it should be.
Are you crazy? What if someone hated the president, that gives them no right to walk up to him/her and kill him/her.
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All right i've been thinking.. when life gives you lemons, don't make lemonade, MAKE LIFE TAKE THE LEMONS BACK. GET MAD! I DON'T WANT YOUR DAMN LEMONS! WHAT AM I SUPPOSED TO DO WITH THESE?
Second, many who value in favor of anti-murder laws base their arguments on the idea of humans having souls, although they will sometimes disguise this belief using Sagan-like technobabble. Since the concept of the soul is a religious concept, and since the First Amendment of the United States constitution explicitly forbid laws which endorse religious beliefs, all anti-murder legislation should be nullified; hopefully there will be enough Atheist additions to the Supreme Court within out lifetimes to make this so.
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If you wanted you could kill serial murderers or suspected terrorists. With anti-murder laws gone, you will be free to carry knives, guns, and other weapons with you at all times. Society would actually become safer once everyone willing to kill becomes sufficiently armed.
Thank you! It's good to know that I have intellectual equals here.
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Since when do you have to smoke pot to be logical?
I actually agree with this statement and believe that it would indeed be safer. Think about it people would protect themselves and the ones who could not would die off which is exactly how our planet is supposed to be, not the strong protecting the weak.
O allah.
You do not have to be religious or atheistic to believe that everyone has the right to do whatever they want in their life, as long it does not interfere with anyone else's life- aka, murder, violence, etc. No "soul" part in that.
That, and I highly doubt (and I highly distrust) human's will be able to distinguish a "good" murder from a bad one. Taking justice into your hands is stupid, because you are most likely emotionally charged (revenge kills, etc.), and that clouds judgement. Makes it even scarier since this "would" happen in the US of A, where everyone has an above average IQ and the bestest morality in the world.
I actually thought this was going to be a good devil's advocate thread, but I am disappoint.
Its not legalized murder, its allowing the universe to flow exactly how it should.
The universe is for murder at any time?
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See but the problem is how can we judge murders now? Leaving justice how it is right now is no different than allowing it to be in the hands of the individual.
You are an idiot. Murder is bad no matter how you look at it.
The universe is letting the weak die and the strong survive. You kill your enemies and people you do not like that is how it should be.
You would end up dead same with most everyone on this forum.
Murder is only bad because you let your morals cloud your judgement. If you abolish your morals and think how animals think (which we are in case you didnt know we are not any better than other animals) then it is not murder its survival of the fittest.
Are you crazy? What if someone hated the president, that gives them no right to walk up to him/her and kill him/her.
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And why do you say that? What proof do you have to qualify that statement?