Here's what I don't get. Sure, it's a possibility that some god started everything, but you have no evidence. It's not demonstrable in any experiment, and we have no way of knowing. So why would you commit to believing that god started the universe/big bang?
What evidence do you have of anything else happening?
The thing with these debates is that it's impossible to prove with complete certainty your point since it's all a matter of belief.
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Here's what I don't get. Sure, it's a possibility that some god started everything, but you have no evidence. It's not demonstrable in any experiment, and we have no way of knowing. So why would you commit to believing that god started the universe/big bang?
What evidence do you have of anything else happening?
The thing with these debates is that it's impossible to prove with complete certainty your point since it's all a matter of belief.
So the only logical thing to accept is that you don't know what's happening.
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The eagle picks my eyes, the worm he licks my bone
Feel so suicidal just like dear old Mr. Jones
So the only logical thing to accept is that you don't know what's happening.
Exactly. Now go to the park and try to swing as high as possible :3
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Time waits for none at all
Your allowance may crawl,
It may fly or even vanish
But none will seem more lavished
Than time lost to all.
Doesn't make much of a difference really, you'll end up on the swings either way :biggrin.gif:
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Time waits for none at all
Your allowance may crawl,
It may fly or even vanish
But none will seem more lavished
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Ah sorry if I was mistaken - I don't mean God as in an entity/person/thing. I mean it in the sense that there will never be a true answer to "what started it all". To me, that process, reason or whatever it is, is god.
Saying that something might have "started" the Big Bang makes no sense. Cause-and-effect phenomena by definition require time, and time began at the Big Bang. There was no time "before" the Big Bang, so it's impossible for the Big Bang to have been caused by something.
Also, why bother labelling it "god"? When people talk about God, they usually mean a personal God like Yahweh or whatever, who listens to your prayers and whatnot. Using a loaded word like that to mean "whatever started it all" just leads to confusions like you just demonstrated. It's just as useless as calling God "love". It doesn't add anything and just confuses everyone.
If God is love, and love is blind, and Ray Charles is blind, then God plays the piano.
Personally, I don't see why an after life is improbable if it is possible we were all ancestors from a single cell and our planet was made from the Big Bang. To me it sounds like that it is probable that there is some sort of a God or an overseer to watch over us. In my own opinion evidence against God is simply works of evil it is there to try and test and see if people will still believe in God. It must work too considering there is still 2.5 Billion of them.
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Personally, I don't see why invisible pink unicorns are so improbable. It is possible that the unicorns simply 'Blinded Us With Science'. To me it sounds like it's probable that there is some sort of unicorn conspiracy to keep us in the dark about their obvious existence, seeing as none of us believe in them. It must work too, considering I seem to be one of the very, very few who do.
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Here's what I don't get. Sure, it's a possibility that some god started everything, but you have no evidence. It's not demonstrable in any experiment, and we have no way of knowing. So why would you commit to believing that god started the universe/big bang?
What evidence do you have of anything else happening?
The thing with these debates is that it's impossible to prove with complete certainty your point since it's all a matter of belief.
So the only logical thing to accept is that you don't know what's happening.
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You brain could be reconfiguring your thoughts to make it seem that something is happen while it actually isn't.
All senses go to your brain, in which your brain could alter them. That means any ****ed up **** you can think of right now might be happening.
That disproves any need for 'Evidence'.
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You brain could be reconfiguring your thoughts to make it seem that something is happen while it actually isn't.
All senses go to your brain, in which your brain could alter them. That means any ****ed up **** you can think of right now might be happening.
That disproves any need for 'Evidence'.
Unless the evidence is a repeatable experiment that has been done by many different people, and can be done by you if you so choose.
But here is the problem. You don't know if other people are just your brain messing with you or not. That is the problem. You can't prove nor disprove anything.
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When I was like six, I made up some batshit insane religion where all the dieties are office supplies. Like, Pencil was the god of Life, Eraser god of Death, Paper god of Fertility, Scissors were war...
yeah.
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You brain could be reconfiguring your thoughts to make it seem that something is happen while it actually isn't.
All senses go to your brain, in which your brain could alter them. That means any ****ed up **** you can think of right now might be happening.
That disproves any need for 'Evidence'.
Unless the evidence is a repeatable experiment that has been done by many different people, and can be done by you if you so choose.
But here is the problem. You don't know if other people are just your brain messing with you or not. That is the problem. You can't prove nor disprove anything.
You're being purposefully thick. If the universe is just a figment of my imagination, then whatever, I'm still finding the laws that govern that universe.
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Yer Blues
The eagle picks my eyes, the worm he licks my bone
Feel so suicidal just like dear old Mr. Jones
Personally, I don't see why invisible pink unicorns are so improbable. It is possible that the unicorns simply 'Blinded Us With Science'. To me it sounds like it's probable that there is some sort of unicorn conspiracy to keep us in the dark about their obvious existence, seeing as none of us believe in them. It must work too, considering I seem to be one of the very, very few who do.
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Because simply it is impossible to be invisible Since objects can be seen by light in the visible spectrum from a source reflecting off their surfaces and hitting the viewer's eye.
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"All men have stood for freedom... For freedom is the man that will turn the world upside down."
Personally, I don't see why invisible pink unicorns are so improbable. It is possible that the unicorns simply 'Blinded Us With Science'. To me it sounds like it's probable that there is some sort of unicorn conspiracy to keep us in the dark about their obvious existence, seeing as none of us believe in them. It must work too, considering I seem to be one of the very, very few who do.
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Because simply it is impossible to be invisible Since objects can be seen by light in the visible spectrum from a source reflecting off their surfaces and hitting the viewer's eye.
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Er...I can't tell if this is sarcasm, but if it isn't, he/she was using an analogy to show how someone's claim that the after existed was flawed.
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Yer Blues
The eagle picks my eyes, the worm he licks my bone
Feel so suicidal just like dear old Mr. Jones
Unless the evidence is a repeatable experiment that has been done by many different people, and can be done by you if you so choose.
But here is the problem. You don't know if other people are just your brain messing with you or not. That is the problem. You can't prove nor disprove anything.
You're being purposefully thick. If the universe is just a figment of my imagination, then whatever, I'm still finding the laws that govern that universe.
I know that, but since we are on the topic of Off-the-wall ideas and such, I decided to just make that point. :tongue.gif:
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When I was like six, I made up some batshit insane religion where all the dieties are office supplies. Like, Pencil was the god of Life, Eraser god of Death, Paper god of Fertility, Scissors were war...
yeah.
Sign me up!
To be honest, I'm not sure if I believe in an afterlife. On one hand, you get to be at rest after your (hopefully) long life if there isn't one. But if there is, then you could possibly spend eternity with all of your loved ones.
And that's where it gets shaky. I've honestly never liked the idea of any kind of eternal life. But then there's an end, so what's after that? Just darkness? If that's so, then in a sense, I still am alive in a way. Because if you see darkness, then you see something. But I could be void of emotions or something like that.
It's just difficult to wrap my head around the idea that one minute I'm here, and the next I'm not.
Also, sorry if that's completely off topic. Just needed to get that off my chest x]
Because if you see darkness, then you see something.
Wrong, my good man. You can't see darkness. Why? Because Darkness doesn't exist. Darkness is a lack of light. Just light cold is a lack of heat, and nothingness is a lack of existance. I mean, after all, you can't go below zero degrees Kelvin, can you? I think not.
I have no idea for a name I would call my ideas about religion, but it consists of God making the Big Bang, and not helping a bit more or a bit less.
I'm pretty much the same. I'd normally call myself an atheist, however if really questioned about what to call the 'the thing that made physics work' in order for the first matter to exist - I'd have to call it God.
Thats what I believe. I call myself a Deist. Easiest way to quickly give people an approximations of my beliefs.
What evidence do you have of anything else happening?
The thing with these debates is that it's impossible to prove with complete certainty your point since it's all a matter of belief.
Do not wallow do not stall
Time waits for none at all
Your allowance may crawl,
It may fly or even vanish
But none will seem more lavished
Than time lost to all.
So the only logical thing to accept is that you don't know what's happening.
The eagle picks my eyes, the worm he licks my bone
Feel so suicidal just like dear old Mr. Jones
Exactly. Now go to the park and try to swing as high as possible :3
Do not wallow do not stall
Time waits for none at all
Your allowance may crawl,
It may fly or even vanish
But none will seem more lavished
Than time lost to all.
Or ditto with a bunch of coke. :biggrin.gif:
The eagle picks my eyes, the worm he licks my bone
Feel so suicidal just like dear old Mr. Jones
Doesn't make much of a difference really, you'll end up on the swings either way :biggrin.gif:
Do not wallow do not stall
Time waits for none at all
Your allowance may crawl,
It may fly or even vanish
But none will seem more lavished
Than time lost to all.
If God is love, and love is blind, and Ray Charles is blind, then God plays the piano.
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To Construct on this:
You brain could be reconfiguring your thoughts to make it seem that something is happen while it actually isn't.
All senses go to your brain, in which your brain could alter them. That means any ****ed up **** you can think of right now might be happening.
That disproves any need for 'Evidence'.
HeroineHerobrine Addictions..Unless the evidence is a repeatable experiment that has been done by many different people, and can be done by you if you so choose.
The eagle picks my eyes, the worm he licks my bone
Feel so suicidal just like dear old Mr. Jones
But here is the problem. You don't know if other people are just your brain messing with you or not. That is the problem. You can't prove nor disprove anything.
HeroineHerobrine Addictions..yeah.
You're being purposefully thick. If the universe is just a figment of my imagination, then whatever, I'm still finding the laws that govern that universe.
The eagle picks my eyes, the worm he licks my bone
Feel so suicidal just like dear old Mr. Jones
Because simply it is impossible to be invisible Since objects can be seen by light in the visible spectrum from a source reflecting off their surfaces and hitting the viewer's eye.
Sorry
Please Try Again
Your Point has been Refuted.
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Er...I can't tell if this is sarcasm, but if it isn't, he/she was using an analogy to show how someone's claim that the after existed was flawed.
The eagle picks my eyes, the worm he licks my bone
Feel so suicidal just like dear old Mr. Jones
I know that, but since we are on the topic of Off-the-wall ideas and such, I decided to just make that point. :tongue.gif:
HeroineHerobrine Addictions..Sign me up!
To be honest, I'm not sure if I believe in an afterlife. On one hand, you get to be at rest after your (hopefully) long life if there isn't one. But if there is, then you could possibly spend eternity with all of your loved ones.
And that's where it gets shaky. I've honestly never liked the idea of any kind of eternal life. But then there's an end, so what's after that? Just darkness? If that's so, then in a sense, I still am alive in a way. Because if you see darkness, then you see something. But I could be void of emotions or something like that.
It's just difficult to wrap my head around the idea that one minute I'm here, and the next I'm not.
Also, sorry if that's completely off topic. Just needed to get that off my chest x]
Wrong, my good man. You can't see darkness. Why? Because Darkness doesn't exist. Darkness is a lack of light. Just light cold is a lack of heat, and nothingness is a lack of existance. I mean, after all, you can't go below zero degrees Kelvin, can you? I think not.
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Thats what I believe. I call myself a Deist. Easiest way to quickly give people an approximations of my beliefs.
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