Ughh, in English a few weeks ago, my teacher wanted us to do a project with who we sit with. Of course I sit with;
My absolute MORTAL ENEMY
Two girls who are so addicted to their phones and Instagram, they barely did anything
Everyone else was too busy to work because they were playing Clash of Clans
So I had to do EVERYTHING, and when our teacher came by, they PRETENDED to help me and my teacher believed it ALL!!!
And, in another group project (for social studies), we had to write about two different cultures and my group did absolutely NOTHING!!! I did everything, and when I handed it in, I put a disclaimer on the page saying I did ALL THE WORK AND NO ONE DECIDED TO HELP!!!!!! I HATE forced group work. Those three dreaded words send chills down my spine. (Does not actually send chills down my spine!)
Two girls who are so addicted to their phones and Instagram, they barely did anything
Everyone else was too busy to work because they were playing Clash of Clans
Sounds like my Ed Tech class. The teacher there is smart, but really absentminded. Everyone pretty much does their own thing, which usually consists of Instagram, Clash Royale, and (muted) YouTube videos.
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Teachers need to stop doing this crap. A test should see if we can properly learned what a lesson was, not be some verbal catacomb that throws curveballs and relies on finger-crossing answers.
And teachers favoring the jerky kids over the nice ones because they match the teacher's nasty personality.
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Yeah, that guy in the avatar is me. I'm *that* strange. It happens. Sometimes people act like that. Just go with it. I can offer help with suggestions even before you post them - NOT make your suggestions - but help you with them.
Teachers need to stop doing this crap. A test should see if we can properly learned what a lesson was, not be some verbal catacomb that throws curveballs and relies on finger-crossing answers.
Not to mention multiple choice doesn't prove that you learned anything. You don't actually have to think and produce an answer. The process of elimination and guessing is practically encouraged when you don't know. Which helps better retain information, instead of getting it handed to you. The only reason multiple choice is done is to make it easy on computers and teachers to grade. You can know the content inside and out and still get it wrong because the intentionally strange wording. How the heck does that prove you know the material?
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I am currently lurking more than I am posting. I haven't gone anywhere.
Horribly slow, boring powerpoints that teachers really seem to enjoy. All it is, is them reading word for word what sloooooowly transitions on the screen. And it takes up like 40 minutes.
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Yeah, that guy in the avatar is me. I'm *that* strange. It happens. Sometimes people act like that. Just go with it. I can offer help with suggestions even before you post them - NOT make your suggestions - but help you with them.
UNEXPECTED TESTS in my life (2 years on high school) I've only gotten 3 unexpected unexpected tests... Well, my grades were a 1, 3.3 and a 6... oh well, at least the 1 didn't count...
If they were Pop quizzes, they were made for that purpose. If it was a test that was on a certain date you forgot, that's technically your fault. But if it's a date pushed to the very next day or current one would just be plain stupid. Unexpected tests are supposed to test your learning ability in the unit.
"Is spring break coming up? Well I better give you a thick packet so your vacation is shot!"
And people wonder why I'm such a pessimistic, bitter person. Because people like that exist.
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Yeah, that guy in the avatar is me. I'm *that* strange. It happens. Sometimes people act like that. Just go with it. I can offer help with suggestions even before you post them - NOT make your suggestions - but help you with them.
"Is spring break coming up? Well I better give you a thick packet so your vacation is shot!"
And people wonder why I'm such a pessimistic, bitter person. Because people like that exist.
One time my 3rd grade teacher gave us this huge packet with different math questions for us to work on in the summer and told us she wanted it completed.
It's pretty obvious that not one person would have worked on it.
My art teacher told us that we could skip doing a certain piece of artwork. She was out for the next few days, and her substitute demanded that we hand in the assignments, despite repeated protests.
One time my 3rd grade teacher gave us this huge packet with different math questions for us to work on in the summer and told us she wanted it completed.
It's pretty obvious that not one person would have worked on it.
Happened me on 5th Grade but the teacher was gonna give us class on 6th so we suffered all the vacations.
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Doesn't matter what the press says. Doesn't matter what the politicians or the mobs say. Doesn't matter if the whole country decides that something wrong is something right. This nation was founded on one principle above all else: the requirement that we stand up for what we believe, no matter the odds or the consequences. When the mob and the press and the whole world tell you to move, your job is to plant yourself like a tree beside the river of truth, and tell the whole world — "No, you move
I'm glad forced group work was brought up. Everyone got to be partners with who they wanted while I always, always got paired up with the laziest kid. Twice in a row I got some failure who would fall asleep when the worktime began. I begged the teachers to split us up so he wouldn't share my good grade only I put effort in.
Boy do I NOT miss high school.
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Yeah, that guy in the avatar is me. I'm *that* strange. It happens. Sometimes people act like that. Just go with it. I can offer help with suggestions even before you post them - NOT make your suggestions - but help you with them.
I wish people would stop complaining about 'forced' group work. If you have a problem with the person you're paired up with, by all means talk to the teacher, but don't dismiss the entire concept.
Sorry kids, in the real world you're gonna have to learn to work with other people, and those other people aren't always going to be your best friends. And the point of school is to teach you how to handle yourself in the real world. As much as I think it fails to do that in a lot of ways, forced group work is not one of them.
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I wish people would stop complaining about 'forced' group work. If you have a problem with the person you're paired up with, by all means talk to the teacher, but don't dismiss the entire concept.
Sorry kids, in the real world you're gonna have to learn to work with other people, and those other people aren't always going to be your best friends. And the point of school is to teach you how to handle yourself in the real world. As much as I think it fails to do that in a lot of ways, forced group work is not one of them.
Yeah, except in the real world a lot of the people you work with will be at least competent. There's too many people at my school that just flat out don't understand a thing, plus they're completely unmotivated. In a workplace you'll be working with people who actually got hired.
I wish people would stop complaining about 'forced' group work. If you have a problem with the person you're paired up with, by all means talk to the teacher, but don't dismiss the entire concept.
Sorry kids, in the real world you're gonna have to learn to work with other people, and those other people aren't always going to be your best friends. And the point of school is to teach you how to handle yourself in the real world. As much as I think it fails to do that in a lot of ways, forced group work is not one of them.
You don't need to be so confrontational about this. This really goes without saying. Some of what we're talking about is when teachers go "For this assignment you need to draw a picture of a cat! Pair up with 5 other people just to do it!"
It doesn't matter if we need to learn group work in real life, it can still be a stupid thing in our school. That's what your thread is about.
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Yeah, that guy in the avatar is me. I'm *that* strange. It happens. Sometimes people act like that. Just go with it. I can offer help with suggestions even before you post them - NOT make your suggestions - but help you with them.
That is what they teach us in schools... to be better than the other! That is totally wrong. Instead of that, they should try to make us motivated and happy to go to school and to go right things (right, not good or bad).
I find that "you've got to be the best" mentality has disappeared rapidly. The real world is full of competition. Job/college scholarship competition is strong and people want the best, being good isn't good enough. The "do your best and have fun" line of advice kind of falls apart in real-life situations. Even though it's messed up, immoral things are what get far in many industries, people who have principals will never get very far.
Who is in the book of world records or gets the most mention at the Olympics? The best. That is the principal of the free-market, you've got to be the best or you'll lose profits to competition. The best have the most opportunities open to them nowadays in comparison to the average student, whether that's a good thing or a bad thing.
In 1st grade, I was at the top of the class because I was competing with another kid. I always made more of an effort to study harder and throw my hand up in class as fast as possible. Then there was no competition, my grades dramatically fell. I feel like childhood rivalry has been mostly replaced by this "everyone gets a gold star so that nobody feels bad!" mentality. To me, that just encourages kids not to make an effort in life, it spoils them.
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Let me know if my posts are helpful or if you like them. That's what I'm here for.
I am currently lurking more than I am posting. I haven't gone anywhere.
I find that "you've got to be the best" mentality has disappeared rapidly. The real world is full of competition. Job/college scholarship competition is strong and people want the best, being good isn't good enough. The "do your best and have fun" line of advice kind of falls apart in real-life situations. Even though it's messed up, immoral things are what get far in many industries, people who have principals will never get very far.
Who is in the book of world records or gets the most mention at the Olympics? The best. That is the principal of the free-market, you've got to be the best or you'll lose profits to competition. The best have the most opportunities open to them nowadays in comparison to the average student, whether that's a good thing or a bad thing.
In 1st grade, I was at the top of the class because I was competing with another kid. I always made more of an effort to study harder and throw my hand up in class as fast as possible. Then there was no competition, my grades dramatically fell. I feel like childhood rivalry has been mostly replaced by this "everyone gets a gold star so that nobody feels bad!" mentality. To me, that just encourages kids not to make an effort in life, it spoils them.
I am always 2nd place on class but because the 1st one copies on the test, I am not gonna drop my morals even if the world will crush me.
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Doesn't matter what the press says. Doesn't matter what the politicians or the mobs say. Doesn't matter if the whole country decides that something wrong is something right. This nation was founded on one principle above all else: the requirement that we stand up for what we believe, no matter the odds or the consequences. When the mob and the press and the whole world tell you to move, your job is to plant yourself like a tree beside the river of truth, and tell the whole world — "No, you move
Yeah, except in the real world a lot of the people you work with will be at least competent. There's too many people at my school that just flat out don't understand a thing, plus they're completely unmotivated. In a workplace you'll be working with people who actually got hired.
Unfortunately, in the real world, even competence can be too much to ask for. I also did say "If you have a problem with the person you're paired up with, by all means talk to the teacher". I'm just pointing out that forced group work is not the problem, nor is forced group work with people you aren't best buddies with the problem. The problem is the unwillingness of some students to work, but schools need to get those students working rather than just leaving the already incredibly antisocial children of today's world in their happy little comfort zones where they can all work at their own pace with no interference, smell the flowers and hug bunny rabbits.
You don't need to be so confrontational about this. This really goes without saying. Some of what we're talking about is when teachers go "For this assignment you need to draw a picture of a cat! Pair up with 5 other people just to do it!"
So your only example is hyperbole to being with?
It doesn't matter if we need to learn group work in real life, it can still be a stupid thing in our school. That's what your thread is about.
When you're in a system designed to teach you how to operate in real life, no, learning something you need to operate in real life can't be a stupid thing.
They should make it like this ... Students work on teams but they are rated individually.
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Doesn't matter what the press says. Doesn't matter what the politicians or the mobs say. Doesn't matter if the whole country decides that something wrong is something right. This nation was founded on one principle above all else: the requirement that we stand up for what we believe, no matter the odds or the consequences. When the mob and the press and the whole world tell you to move, your job is to plant yourself like a tree beside the river of truth, and tell the whole world — "No, you move
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
It worked out, and we all got a good grade. It was just exceedingly frustrating.
I have a twitter, if you're interested in stalking me.
Ughh, in English a few weeks ago, my teacher wanted us to do a project with who we sit with. Of course I sit with;
So I had to do EVERYTHING, and when our teacher came by, they PRETENDED to help me and my teacher believed it ALL!!!
And, in another group project (for social studies), we had to write about two different cultures and my group did absolutely NOTHING!!! I did everything, and when I handed it in, I put a disclaimer on the page saying I did ALL THE WORK AND NO ONE DECIDED TO HELP!!!!!! I HATE forced group work. Those three dreaded words send chills down my spine. (Does not actually send chills down my spine!)
Sounds like my Ed Tech class. The teacher there is smart, but really absentminded. Everyone pretty much does their own thing, which usually consists of Instagram, Clash Royale, and (muted) YouTube videos.
I have a twitter, if you're interested in stalking me.
"Choose the best correct answer!"
Teachers need to stop doing this crap. A test should see if we can properly learned what a lesson was, not be some verbal catacomb that throws curveballs and relies on finger-crossing answers.
And teachers favoring the jerky kids over the nice ones because they match the teacher's nasty personality.
Yeah, that guy in the avatar is me. I'm *that* strange. It happens. Sometimes people act like that. Just go with it. I can offer help with suggestions even before you post them - NOT make your suggestions - but help you with them.
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Unofficial Critics Guide - by yoshi9048
Not to mention multiple choice doesn't prove that you learned anything. You don't actually have to think and produce an answer. The process of elimination and guessing is practically encouraged when you don't know. Which helps better retain information, instead of getting it handed to you. The only reason multiple choice is done is to make it easy on computers and teachers to grade. You can know the content inside and out and still get it wrong because the intentionally strange wording. How the heck does that prove you know the material?
Horribly slow, boring powerpoints that teachers really seem to enjoy. All it is, is them reading word for word what sloooooowly transitions on the screen. And it takes up like 40 minutes.
Yeah, that guy in the avatar is me. I'm *that* strange. It happens. Sometimes people act like that. Just go with it. I can offer help with suggestions even before you post them - NOT make your suggestions - but help you with them.
Unofficial Suggestions Guide (2.0) - by Theriasis
Unofficial Critics Guide - by yoshi9048
If they were Pop quizzes, they were made for that purpose. If it was a test that was on a certain date you forgot, that's technically your fault. But if it's a date pushed to the very next day or current one would just be plain stupid. Unexpected tests are supposed to test your learning ability in the unit.
"Is spring break coming up? Well I better give you a thick packet so your vacation is shot!"
And people wonder why I'm such a pessimistic, bitter person. Because people like that exist.
Yeah, that guy in the avatar is me. I'm *that* strange. It happens. Sometimes people act like that. Just go with it. I can offer help with suggestions even before you post them - NOT make your suggestions - but help you with them.
Unofficial Suggestions Guide (2.0) - by Theriasis
Unofficial Critics Guide - by yoshi9048
One time my 3rd grade teacher gave us this huge packet with different math questions for us to work on in the summer and told us she wanted it completed.
It's pretty obvious that not one person would have worked on it.
My art teacher told us that we could skip doing a certain piece of artwork. She was out for the next few days, and her substitute demanded that we hand in the assignments, despite repeated protests.
And people wonder why I hate art.
-FunVod
Happened me on 5th Grade but the teacher was gonna give us class on 6th so we suffered all the vacations.
I'm glad forced group work was brought up. Everyone got to be partners with who they wanted while I always, always got paired up with the laziest kid. Twice in a row I got some failure who would fall asleep when the worktime began. I begged the teachers to split us up so he wouldn't share my good grade only I put effort in.
Boy do I NOT miss high school.
Yeah, that guy in the avatar is me. I'm *that* strange. It happens. Sometimes people act like that. Just go with it. I can offer help with suggestions even before you post them - NOT make your suggestions - but help you with them.
Unofficial Suggestions Guide (2.0) - by Theriasis
Unofficial Critics Guide - by yoshi9048
I wish people would stop complaining about 'forced' group work. If you have a problem with the person you're paired up with, by all means talk to the teacher, but don't dismiss the entire concept.
Sorry kids, in the real world you're gonna have to learn to work with other people, and those other people aren't always going to be your best friends. And the point of school is to teach you how to handle yourself in the real world. As much as I think it fails to do that in a lot of ways, forced group work is not one of them.
Yeah, except in the real world a lot of the people you work with will be at least competent. There's too many people at my school that just flat out don't understand a thing, plus they're completely unmotivated. In a workplace you'll be working with people who actually got hired.
And who are you, the proud lord said, that I must bow so low?
Only a cat of a different coat, that's all the truth I know.
In a coat of gold or a coat of red, a lion still has claws,
And mine are long and sharp, my lord, as long and sharp as yours.
And so he spoke, and so he spoke, that lord of Castamere,
But now the rains weep o'er his hall, with no one there to hear.
Yes now the rains weep o'er his hall, and not a soul to hear.
You don't need to be so confrontational about this. This really goes without saying. Some of what we're talking about is when teachers go "For this assignment you need to draw a picture of a cat! Pair up with 5 other people just to do it!"
It doesn't matter if we need to learn group work in real life, it can still be a stupid thing in our school. That's what your thread is about.
Yeah, that guy in the avatar is me. I'm *that* strange. It happens. Sometimes people act like that. Just go with it. I can offer help with suggestions even before you post them - NOT make your suggestions - but help you with them.
Unofficial Suggestions Guide (2.0) - by Theriasis
Unofficial Critics Guide - by yoshi9048
Who says one doesn't make enemies at work?
I find that "you've got to be the best" mentality has disappeared rapidly. The real world is full of competition. Job/college scholarship competition is strong and people want the best, being good isn't good enough. The "do your best and have fun" line of advice kind of falls apart in real-life situations. Even though it's messed up, immoral things are what get far in many industries, people who have principals will never get very far.
Who is in the book of world records or gets the most mention at the Olympics? The best. That is the principal of the free-market, you've got to be the best or you'll lose profits to competition. The best have the most opportunities open to them nowadays in comparison to the average student, whether that's a good thing or a bad thing.
In 1st grade, I was at the top of the class because I was competing with another kid. I always made more of an effort to study harder and throw my hand up in class as fast as possible. Then there was no competition, my grades dramatically fell. I feel like childhood rivalry has been mostly replaced by this "everyone gets a gold star so that nobody feels bad!" mentality. To me, that just encourages kids not to make an effort in life, it spoils them.
I am always 2nd place on class but because the 1st one copies on the test, I am not gonna drop my morals even if the world will crush me.
Unfortunately, in the real world, even competence can be too much to ask for. I also did say "If you have a problem with the person you're paired up with, by all means talk to the teacher". I'm just pointing out that forced group work is not the problem, nor is forced group work with people you aren't best buddies with the problem. The problem is the unwillingness of some students to work, but schools need to get those students working rather than just leaving the already incredibly antisocial children of today's world in their happy little comfort zones where they can all work at their own pace with no interference, smell the flowers and hug bunny rabbits.
So your only example is hyperbole to being with?
When you're in a system designed to teach you how to operate in real life, no, learning something you need to operate in real life can't be a stupid thing.
They should make it like this ... Students work on teams but they are rated individually.