A few days ago, my friends and I sparked off a debate about whether being a musician, or being a gamer benefits your everyday life the most. Some points include that gamers are likely to triple their reaction speed, and music makes you read and comprehend faster. What's better? Which is more beneficial? What do you all think? Comment below, and vote on the poll!
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I honestly have never came across a situation where someones's musical or gaming ability really benefited them outside of those areas. Yeah they may have some creative points but when someone says "music helps your math" or "FPS's improve focus" I just laugh. If anything these interests help with social culture and expression, something to talk about with others. I will say that music in some sense improves confidence in various areas and it's still probably the more socially "cooler" hobby but at this point gaming has started to pick up steam.
Logical answer, I say. Musicians prove to be better in academia, for the general purposes. Gaming just seems to be a popular things these days, and music is cool, but a majority of people pass that off and just like that, neither Gaming or Music is really a standout. But I believe musicians (Myself one, and also a gamer) prove to do things faster and/or comprehend things and what not faster in life.
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Logical answer, I say. Musicians prove to be better in academia, for the general purposes. Gaming just seems to be a popular things these days, and music is cool, but a majority of people pass that off and just like that, neither Gaming or Music is really a standout. But I believe musicians (Myself one, and also a gamer) prove to do things faster and/or comprehend things and what not faster in life.
Well you can get a degree for playing music whether it be classical or jazz, you can't get a degree for playing text-based-adventures or sidescrollers.
Three years of marching band in high school had more academic and physical benefits than any amount of gaming I do will ever have, so you can probably guess what my answer is.
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Both can develop into basement dwelling scuttlemites. I know of old school acquaintances that are self proclaimed musicians, which is a fancier way of saying they play in dive bars for the free drinks, afterparties, and groupies. Otherwise they're either living at home or in a two bit dump, but that's fine if they are happy.
It all depends on the person. A disciplined, driven, and well rounded person can make gaming or music, or even both, broaden their horizons and open opportunities for other aspects in their life. The trick is not to become consumed with one thing to the point it becomes a hinderance rather than an asset.
Chad: "Yo, I can play a guitar!"
10/10 qt 3.14 girl: "Really? Play something for me <3" chad begins to play wonderwall
Nah, probably more like -
Chad LeDouche: "Yo, I can play guitar!"
Pumpkin Spice Sippin' Chiqqa: *Swoon* "Play me Wonderwall!?"
Chad LeDouche: *Strums random variations of the only 4 chords he knows*
A few days ago, my friends and I sparked off a debate about whether being a musician, or being a gamer benefits your everyday life the most. Some points include that gamers are likely to triple their reaction speed, and music makes you read and comprehend faster. What's better? Which is more beneficial? What do you all think? Comment below, and vote on the poll!
The barrier to entry to actually make a living off of it is a lot lower for musicians than it is for 'gamers'. a 'Gamer' has to play at a very high level to have much hope of making a living off of it, and it requires constant practice. Seldom do people who call themselves "gamers" have the appropriate patience to do that to begin with- they just like playing games. Musicians can create music, distribute it for free or at a small price via any number of on-line distribution websites such as bandcamp, and get a reasonable return; and if they make good music there is a good chance they will be "discovered" and gain popularity. But at any rate, creating Music as a hobby can result in a small source of income.
Playing games as a Hobby cannot do this. If you want to make any money by playing games, you have to be "top teir"- playing a game nearly constantly, practicing, playing over and over again, etc.
There are studies that show some 'benefits' to playing video games, in terms of increased reaction times. However, the results of these studies are only used to justify people playing far too many video games, in my experience. This is particularly clear since they so often ignore the health detriments of sitting on your ass all day (which applies to most games) paired with the typical "gamer diet" which has become a trope of sorts involving junk food and soft drinks. Having a better reaction time is nice but it is rather offset if you can't climb a flight of stairs without having to catch your breath.
Many of the studies also don't perform additional checks for possible confounding factors. Especially since it may cause reactions to have the "wrong" answer, despite what the studies state, in real-world situations.
Take the game Test Drive 4. It is a very old game but it has a peculiar behaviour- if you take a sharp corner and hold the arrow key to turn, but hit the opposite wall, you will spin out. However, if you turn into the wall, you will lose very little speed and won't spin out. I recall that I exploited this particular behaviour myself- but it ended up affecting other games, as I did the same thing, without thinking, in games like Need for Speed which did not have the same rules.
I was a kid so thankfully I wasn't driving, but in a pinch I could imagine somebody conditioned in this manner could very well make faster decisions based on physical laws that don't exist in reality. Most games have these sorts of minor inconsistencies, if not because if errors then because it made the game more entertaining.
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I see it as an opinionated matter. Music is something has been around for a long time and music is used to express feelings, thoughts, etc. Video Games have a stigma to them of being brainless and having no real intellectual point to them, though. I see them as just interactive stories. You play Star Wars Battlefront, you're playing in the Star Wars world. You play Fallout, you play the story of a Vault Dweller that goes to find a water chip, so on and so forth. In the end, both of them have their own values and are very underrated. Music now-a-days are still generalized as if there's only two genres : Good music and bad music. It has a lot to do with culture, too. Music is kind of like a universal language that everyone can understand and enjoy. Video Games just get knocked for having no "depth" when in reality, I've experienced lots of games that I've thought had lots of depth.
Musicians pull chicks if they play guitar or drums. Good singing adds to it if you're a guitarist, but singing by itself makes you look like you've got your head up your bum. Pianists are gay though, and anything else is just uncool. Gamers only pull chicks if they play on Xbox and only play COD or Fifa, anything else is either nerdy or try hard.
Ultimately it's just a choice between someone who probably smokes a lot of cannabis vs. someone who drinks a lot of Mtn Dew. The cannabis normally wins, because it doesn't give you diabetes.
If this was the nineties, gamers would have the advantage of not overdosing on heroine, though they'll still have problems with the necks and eyes due to overuse of VR machines.
'Musicians' are arguably more skilled than those who play video games, as there is much more to think about when playing. You have to think about notes, touch, duration, rubato, tempo, dynamics, style, mechanisms and movement as well as reading music, knowing locations of notes, knowing how t play notes &c. Most games can be easily 'learnt' through intuition, though perhaps good players have faster reaction times.
I'm a pianist/singer so I'm probably a bit biased though. As for academics, music probably helps your brain think more creatively perhaps, though it depends greatly.
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A few days ago, my friends and I sparked off a debate about whether being a musician, or being a gamer benefits your everyday life the most. Some points include that gamers are likely to triple their reaction speed, and music makes you read and comprehend faster. What's better? Which is more beneficial? What do you all think? Comment below, and vote on the poll!
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Musician, play Wonderwall, gets girls. Gamer, play Half-Life, gets nothing.
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I honestly have never came across a situation where someones's musical or gaming ability really benefited them outside of those areas. Yeah they may have some creative points but when someone says "music helps your math" or "FPS's improve focus" I just laugh. If anything these interests help with social culture and expression, something to talk about with others. I will say that music in some sense improves confidence in various areas and it's still probably the more socially "cooler" hobby but at this point gaming has started to pick up steam.
Logical answer, I say. Musicians prove to be better in academia, for the general purposes. Gaming just seems to be a popular things these days, and music is cool, but a majority of people pass that off and just like that, neither Gaming or Music is really a standout. But I believe musicians (Myself one, and also a gamer) prove to do things faster and/or comprehend things and what not faster in life.
Josh | Media Editor: Photographer & Videographer | Advanced Minecraft Server Administrator
"Only god knows what we're fighting for!"
Well you can get a degree for playing music whether it be classical or jazz, you can't get a degree for playing text-based-adventures or sidescrollers.
Three years of marching band in high school had more academic and physical benefits than any amount of gaming I do will ever have, so you can probably guess what my answer is.
Both can develop into basement dwelling scuttlemites. I know of old school acquaintances that are self proclaimed musicians, which is a fancier way of saying they play in dive bars for the free drinks, afterparties, and groupies. Otherwise they're either living at home or in a two bit dump, but that's fine if they are happy.
It all depends on the person. A disciplined, driven, and well rounded person can make gaming or music, or even both, broaden their horizons and open opportunities for other aspects in their life. The trick is not to become consumed with one thing to the point it becomes a hinderance rather than an asset.
http://www.minecraftforum.net/forums/minecraft-discussion/survival-mode/2372609-journal-the-ballad-of-dirtdog
Nah, probably more like -
Chad LeDouche: "Yo, I can play guitar!"
Pumpkin Spice Sippin' Chiqqa: *Swoon* "Play me Wonderwall!?"
Chad LeDouche: *Strums random variations of the only 4 chords he knows*
http://www.minecraftforum.net/forums/minecraft-discussion/survival-mode/2372609-journal-the-ballad-of-dirtdog
As a Pianist, it's funny how you can play simple chords or rely on scale movements in random pieces to impress your friends.
Josh | Media Editor: Photographer & Videographer | Advanced Minecraft Server Administrator
"Only god knows what we're fighting for!"
Why be a gamer, or musician, when you can become a "video game composer"?
Josh | Media Editor: Photographer & Videographer | Advanced Minecraft Server Administrator
"Only god knows what we're fighting for!"
It was enough to land Johnny Ramone 16th on Rolling Stone's Top 100 Greatest Guitarists list but that list is crap anyway.
I know someone who played the piano. And it definetly helped her be happy and kind.
This reminds me of her, and how much I love music.
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The barrier to entry to actually make a living off of it is a lot lower for musicians than it is for 'gamers'. a 'Gamer' has to play at a very high level to have much hope of making a living off of it, and it requires constant practice. Seldom do people who call themselves "gamers" have the appropriate patience to do that to begin with- they just like playing games. Musicians can create music, distribute it for free or at a small price via any number of on-line distribution websites such as bandcamp, and get a reasonable return; and if they make good music there is a good chance they will be "discovered" and gain popularity. But at any rate, creating Music as a hobby can result in a small source of income.
Playing games as a Hobby cannot do this. If you want to make any money by playing games, you have to be "top teir"- playing a game nearly constantly, practicing, playing over and over again, etc.
There are studies that show some 'benefits' to playing video games, in terms of increased reaction times. However, the results of these studies are only used to justify people playing far too many video games, in my experience. This is particularly clear since they so often ignore the health detriments of sitting on your ass all day (which applies to most games) paired with the typical "gamer diet" which has become a trope of sorts involving junk food and soft drinks. Having a better reaction time is nice but it is rather offset if you can't climb a flight of stairs without having to catch your breath.
Many of the studies also don't perform additional checks for possible confounding factors. Especially since it may cause reactions to have the "wrong" answer, despite what the studies state, in real-world situations.
Take the game Test Drive 4. It is a very old game but it has a peculiar behaviour- if you take a sharp corner and hold the arrow key to turn, but hit the opposite wall, you will spin out. However, if you turn into the wall, you will lose very little speed and won't spin out. I recall that I exploited this particular behaviour myself- but it ended up affecting other games, as I did the same thing, without thinking, in games like Need for Speed which did not have the same rules.
I was a kid so thankfully I wasn't driving, but in a pinch I could imagine somebody conditioned in this manner could very well make faster decisions based on physical laws that don't exist in reality. Most games have these sorts of minor inconsistencies, if not because if errors then because it made the game more entertaining.
both.
but then if i had to choose id say gamers.
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A skilled musician has more use to anyone than a gamer.
Both will be living off of welfare. I guess I'd rather pay for someone that makes music rather than someone who plays video games all day.
I see it as an opinionated matter. Music is something has been around for a long time and music is used to express feelings, thoughts, etc. Video Games have a stigma to them of being brainless and having no real intellectual point to them, though. I see them as just interactive stories. You play Star Wars Battlefront, you're playing in the Star Wars world. You play Fallout, you play the story of a Vault Dweller that goes to find a water chip, so on and so forth. In the end, both of them have their own values and are very underrated. Music now-a-days are still generalized as if there's only two genres : Good music and bad music. It has a lot to do with culture, too. Music is kind of like a universal language that everyone can understand and enjoy. Video Games just get knocked for having no "depth" when in reality, I've experienced lots of games that I've thought had lots of depth.
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If this was the nineties, gamers would have the advantage of not overdosing on heroine, though they'll still have problems with the necks and eyes due to overuse of VR machines.
They had VR machines developed for public use in the 90s? I thought they start in the 2000s!
Josh | Media Editor: Photographer & Videographer | Advanced Minecraft Server Administrator
"Only god knows what we're fighting for!"
As I'm a guitar player, I'd say musicians. Gamers just sit around and do crap.
'Musicians' are arguably more skilled than those who play video games, as there is much more to think about when playing. You have to think about notes, touch, duration, rubato, tempo, dynamics, style, mechanisms and movement as well as reading music, knowing locations of notes, knowing how t play notes &c. Most games can be easily 'learnt' through intuition, though perhaps good players have faster reaction times.
I'm a pianist/singer so I'm probably a bit biased though. As for academics, music probably helps your brain think more creatively perhaps, though it depends greatly.