I Don't strongly believe In hitting dogs, shoot I'd say I don't hit them at all but I'd be a liar. Yes I've hit a dog in the past due to frustration and not being patient but it's honestly such a stupid feeling. If you don't have the patience to take care of a dog and get to the point where you have to hit them to control them then get rid of them...
Guess i'm just looking for a community intake on the subject. I've yet to hit this new dog my moms got but she beats her every blue moon. 4 Months old I believe. I Don't like to point my mom out on her flaws because she'll say something like "then you take care of her" which I won't because its not my freaking dog but I guess that means I can't pass judgement upon the situation saying things like there's gotta be other ways than hitting her. I Don't like bringing this up around her because we get into such a heated argument.
I Don't know, Is hitting dogs ok (if you have to?)
or is it completely wrong and there's a different way of learning.
Far as why the punishment is needed would probably be something like committing rebellions actions such as not staying sat down when told too, or not coming to its owner when called, chewing up things you aren't suppose to blah blah blah. I can't see myself hitting a dog ever again. They just look too innocent...
Maybe if the dog does something really bad like chewing up a couch or something like that, just give him a light hit on the muzzle but really that's the extent of it. Don't beat the dog.
Assuming that's a Rhetorical question...gonna answer it anyways.
Either or...I'm simply trying to figure out if the punishments my moms dog receives are normal and I'm not just crazy to think its not ok. This woman from ComEd came to our house once and was having a conversation about dogs with my mother and they're speaking as if hitting them when done wrong was ok. Maybe I just can't grasp the harsh grip of reality. It's pretty much "Do you hit your kids" topic replace with dogs.
Well, can you hit a child? No. Can you hit your teacher? No. Can you hit your annoying co-worker? No. Why should it be any different for your dog? They don't know any better and instead of punishing them teach them to not do it again.
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No, that's not good for the dog. The best thing to do is to teach it whats right from wrong. Dogs are like little furry children, and they're not just some emotionless drones that always follow orders.
With every dog I've had if they have done something really bad (like tearing up furniture or grabbing food off the counter) I would very lightly hit their muzzle with a single finger once. I would then forcefully, not angrily, tell them no. Anything more is just wrong. No animal deserves a beating just because it did something that displeased you.
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NO BEATING A DOG IS NOT OKAY. Tell her to quit it, your dog could become extremely aggressive or may become nervous around humans. If you see her again call the RSPCA.
I have two cats. On many occasions I have seen one of the two whack the other in the face with it's paw for something the other has done. Just one simple cat-smack between companions. They both do it, for reasons I do not know. I'm not a cat. But the whacker has obviously has a reason to smack the other. A fight does not ensue between the two, instead they sit and look at each other, and work out whatever it was.
I've seen the same thing with dogs, usually a nip to let the other know that what was done is not right. I guess when communication between animals is non-verbal, light physical violence is accepted when needed. Though our pets may understand a tiny part of our language, most of it is "blah,blah,blah" to them. Sometimes words are not enough.
I use physical punishment when necessary. I try not to go overboard, but have on occasion. I do not feel good about it. But as I said, it seems to be part of the natural thing to give that simple cat-smack.
As far as your mom, sounds like she may be abusing the dog. There is a difference between a simple (yet physical) reprimand and a beating. Part of the difference may be the frequency of hitting. If it happens too often, it's abuse. I physically reprimand only our younger cat. The older cat has learned what is acceptable and what is not. I am still training the younger cat, so he needs a little something now and the other then "blah,blah,blah". But I do not hit the cat for every little thing. If you feel your mom is abusing the dog, report it.
If you are just frustrated at them for not doing what you want, DEFINITELY NOT.
I can honestly say that I haven't ever, because I love (most) animals like my family. Just not spiders or mosquitoes. Nasty and annoying, a bad combination.
Your mother shouldn't have a dog, or any pet for that matter. They don;'t have the brain that humans do, they don't know these things. They think they are worthless after you do that to them, not learn. And if they do learn, they learn to never be happy again.
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I Don't strongly believe In hitting dogs, shoot I'd say I don't hit them at all but I'd be a liar. Yes I've hit a dog in the past due to frustration and not being patient but it's honestly such a stupid feeling. If you don't have the patience to take care of a dog and get to the point where you have to hit them to control them then get rid of them...
Guess i'm just looking for a community intake on the subject. I've yet to hit this new dog my moms got but she beats her every blue moon. 4 Months old I believe. I Don't like to point my mom out on her flaws because she'll say something like "then you take care of her" which I won't because its not my freaking dog but I guess that means I can't pass judgement upon the situation saying things like there's gotta be other ways than hitting her. I Don't like bringing this up around her because we get into such a heated argument.
I Don't know, Is hitting dogs ok (if you have to?)
or is it completely wrong and there's a different way of learning.
Far as why the punishment is needed would probably be something like committing rebellions actions such as not staying sat down when told too, or not coming to its owner when called, chewing up things you aren't suppose to blah blah blah. I can't see myself hitting a dog ever again. They just look too innocent...
No it's not okay, what kind of question is this?
Maybe if the dog does something really bad like chewing up a couch or something like that, just give him a light hit on the muzzle but really that's the extent of it. Don't beat the dog.
Assuming that's a Rhetorical question...gonna answer it anyways.
Either or...I'm simply trying to figure out if the punishments my moms dog receives are normal and I'm not just crazy to think its not ok. This woman from ComEd came to our house once and was having a conversation about dogs with my mother and they're speaking as if hitting them when done wrong was ok. Maybe I just can't grasp the harsh grip of reality. It's pretty much "Do you hit your kids" topic replace with dogs.
Well, can you hit a child? No. Can you hit your teacher? No. Can you hit your annoying co-worker? No. Why should it be any different for your dog? They don't know any better and instead of punishing them teach them to not do it again.
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Renewed shall be the blade that was broken, The crownless again shall be king
I say, don't do it to inflict pain. Just do it lightly in order to get their attention and tell them that what they're doing is not okay.
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No, that's not good for the dog. The best thing to do is to teach it whats right from wrong. Dogs are like little furry children, and they're not just some emotionless drones that always follow orders.
With every dog I've had if they have done something really bad (like tearing up furniture or grabbing food off the counter) I would very lightly hit their muzzle with a single finger once. I would then forcefully, not angrily, tell them no. Anything more is just wrong. No animal deserves a beating just because it did something that displeased you.
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Hippocrates says "Do no harm"
So that means, light scolding is enough. Like "no no, Bella, don't do that!" No hitting.
If you're aware of someone beating a dog, you really should bring it to the attention of the SPCA in your area. Even if she is your mother.
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NO BEATING A DOG IS NOT OKAY. Tell her to quit it, your dog could become extremely aggressive or may become nervous around humans. If you see her again call the RSPCA.
I can't stand people intentionally beating dogs (or cats or any other pets) just for "punishment". In my eyes, that's cruelty.
I never really had a dog but according to my friends, a light yell or a light friendly tap is enough.
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I have two cats. On many occasions I have seen one of the two whack the other in the face with it's paw for something the other has done. Just one simple cat-smack between companions. They both do it, for reasons I do not know. I'm not a cat. But the whacker has obviously has a reason to smack the other. A fight does not ensue between the two, instead they sit and look at each other, and work out whatever it was.
I've seen the same thing with dogs, usually a nip to let the other know that what was done is not right. I guess when communication between animals is non-verbal, light physical violence is accepted when needed. Though our pets may understand a tiny part of our language, most of it is "blah,blah,blah" to them. Sometimes words are not enough.
I use physical punishment when necessary. I try not to go overboard, but have on occasion. I do not feel good about it. But as I said, it seems to be part of the natural thing to give that simple cat-smack.
As far as your mom, sounds like she may be abusing the dog. There is a difference between a simple (yet physical) reprimand and a beating. Part of the difference may be the frequency of hitting. If it happens too often, it's abuse. I physically reprimand only our younger cat. The older cat has learned what is acceptable and what is not. I am still training the younger cat, so he needs a little something now and the other then "blah,blah,blah". But I do not hit the cat for every little thing. If you feel your mom is abusing the dog, report it.
I'm not entirely sure the Hippocratic Oath applies much outside being the dog's vet.
If they have rabies and attack you, yes.
If you are just frustrated at them for not doing what you want, DEFINITELY NOT.
I can honestly say that I haven't ever, because I love (most) animals like my family. Just not spiders or mosquitoes. Nasty and annoying, a bad combination.
Your mother shouldn't have a dog, or any pet for that matter. They don;'t have the brain that humans do, they don't know these things. They think they are worthless after you do that to them, not learn. And if they do learn, they learn to never be happy again.
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