Basically, this is an arguement I had with this guy on youtube. He was on about how the Xbox One is better than the PS4, and his arguement was full of strawman fallacies, so I corrected him, using a source. All I want to know, if what you guys think about this arguement. Please don't get into X console is better than Y console.
First comment in the chain:
"Trade in you PS3 and get $100 off an Xbox One" Or I could keep my PS3 and buy a PS4 for the exact same price
The guys first comment in the chain:
Well the xbox one is better and has actually been proved in sales haha...
Im gonna skip all other comments, and move straight into my first comment, and then it goes between me and him.
"It’s been well-documented that Sony’s PS4 has thoroughly beaten Microsoft’s Xbox One in sales since both consoles released back in November."
See now *****(my name, not a swear), this is where you are wrong. The PS4 has only been bought the people who could not afford the xbox one. My proof; in December of 2013, the xbox one actually outsold the PS4 by 1.8x the amount that PS4 sold. So this provides the evidence that the xbox one is WAY more premium and when people actually have the money, will always choose the xbox one over the PS4. Now if you wish to argue that fact that because the PS4 has better specifications, then explain to me why it constantly drops frames on games that my phone could run? Please just take this all in and Think about your next comment, cause i guarantee you, it will make you look like a fool. :)
First of all, you didn't site a single source. At least I quoted an actual reputable news source. Yes, the XboxOne outsold the PS4 in December, but since launch, the PS4 has outsold the Xbox One 3 to 1 ( http://www.vg247.com/2014/01/30/play-com-ps4-games-outsold-xbox-one-titles-31-over-holidays-pc-software-outselling-both-consoles/ ). Curious how you failed to mention that in your comment. The Xbox and the PS4 have equal specifications, so I really doubt your phone could run any of the games on the PS4. My PS4 has never dropped frames, and neither have any of my friends', so yours is probably damaged.
What exactly do you mean by saying the Xbox One is more premium. The Xbox One has gasp the ability to stream TV, ON MY GOD DAMN TV! ITS SUCH A ING REVOLUTION!
It seems my prediction is Absolutely accurate. First of all you appeared to have made no attempt to read and consider my argument, you have read the first line and thought, hmm, i am definitely right i will keep fighting my corner until he gets bored and eventually gives up on me. Also did you not read the part where i said the PS4 has been bought by people with less money? I guess not since you are so rash with your arguments yet, the whole structure just flops when i pick it apart. So forgive me for being so rude but goodbye, and thank you for backing up my comment.
WHERE IS YOUR GOD DAMN PROOF? You never gave any proof to back up your comment. Literally at all. I ignored that because it was so idiotic that I thought you were joking. Next time, cite sources kid.
Your argument is literally just, "I'm right, your wrong." You didn't disprove my points, just said that I was wrong, and then just saying goodbye, because you know you can't fight this battle. Good game, no rematch.
It seems like you're asking us in hopes we all say you're right just so you have the satisfaction of knowing you were right.
When it comes down to it, neither of you are right. No console is better than the other. One may have some better features, or runs better, but the other is not a piece of garbage. Something that I think gamer fan boys seem to forget is that everyone has their own personal preference when choosing a console. Some who have grown up playing the Playstation, PS2, etc are always going to choose the console they are more comfortable with. Controller plays a big part of this as well.
There will always be PS vs Xbox wars, which is so stupid. We're all gamers, and we're all playing to have fun. Why should it matter if a console is better? Why should it matter at all if people choose to play the other console? Both systems are equal. They have their differences, but they're still equal. Arguing over which is better is pathetic, and makes the rest of us (who play to have fun and don't care) look bad.
You're the exact reason most console players hate PC players. PC is not elite, it's not better. Cool, you get better graphics...so what? PC is not better, nor are the consoles better. When it comes down to gaming, all systems are equal. Enough with this pathetic little console/system war.
Like I said, I wanted to know what you guys thought of the arguement that was had, not what console you prefer. I know, most people on here prefer PC, I do too, what I want to know is, do you guys think that my arguement was better or his?
Like I said, I wanted to know what you guys thought of the arguement that was had, not what console you prefer. I know, most people on here prefer PC, I do too, what I want to know is, do you guys think that my arguement was better or his?
Re-read my reply. It doesn't matter whose argument was better. It's stupid to argue over which console is better, and you need to get a grip if you honestly care if you "win" the the argument with him.
These are VIDEO GAME CONSOLES! Who cares? Who cares if your argument about one system being better is better than his argument? Get a freaking grip on reality.
You're the exact reason most console players hate PC players. PC is not elite, it's not better. Cool, you get better graphics...so what? PC is not better, nor are the consoles better. When it comes down to gaming, all systems are equal. Enough with this pathetic little console/system war.
I even found this complete side-to-side comparison of consoles and PCs: http://www.digitalst...icles/25_02.jpg
(You'll probably need to zoom in or out.)
EDIT: Back to the OP, yes your argument was far superior.
I even found this complete side-to-side comparison of consoles and PCs: http://www.digitalst...icles/25_02.jpg
(You'll probably need to zoom in or out.)
EDIT: Back to the OP, yes your argument was far superior.
Cool, you can post a bunch of links, doesn't mean you're right. Get off your damn high horse and understand something. We are all gamers. Why are you superior to us because you choose a PC that can run better graphics? Why are you superior because you get some extra games? I am sick of people like you and the original poster who turn video games into a flame war and a retarded debate about THIS CONSOLE IS BETTER, OH MY GOD HEAR ME CRY!!!!!!
You people that argue about which is better are pathetic, flat out pathetic. You PC elitists are worst. You flaunt around you "MASTER RACE HUHUHUHUHU" BS like you're some king. You're not! I don't care if you have five monitors and several amazing top notch keyboards. I don't care if someone's console has ERMEHGERD SPEED. No console, and definitely not PC are better. Each have their own unique qualities, and people like you need to wake the hell up. You're not some better person or better gamer, you never will be, especially if you continue your pathetic master race high horse.
I'm not going to be like to other to people here who posted things saying that PC gamer are the master gamers. What i am going to say is that I have had a better time on PC's than consoles. I'm not saying that PC are better it all comes down to personal opinions but if you really want to say which is better in the way of specs gaming PC's are better than consoles but the keyword was gaming so if your looking at like a 500 to 600 dollar than consoles are better or at least the next gen ones.
(My personal opinion is PC's are better but like i said it really what a person is looking for and I'm looking for games on the PC like half life 2, Garys mod, Minecraft etc...) (All of them modable which is really obvious and i didn't list half life 3 because from what I know it's not out yet or I even been confirmed but I could be wrong I don't know)
Also i have to agree with ArarielFett with the PC elitism if your computer lags you shouldn't play the game, you have to play with somethings turned down you shouldn't play the game. I really just love those bastards who think that they are better than you just because their computer can run a game on full graphical settings. Also the elitism in gaming is getting worse the best example I can think of is people on World of tanks. People use the mod XVM which shows the stats of all the players and they judge you based on a number. (This coming from a person who plays video games for fun not to be competitive)
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Like really, shut up, you're not even contributing to the thread you nimwit,
What do you call this? I call it flaming and not even part of the topic. Before you post this garbage of an attempt at flaming me, think about what you're going to post before you post it.
Last time I checked, my post has EVERYTHING to do with this topic. If you don't like it, that's too damn bad.
IMO, arguments in the youtube comments section should stay in the youtube comments section.
If you want Killer Instinct, get a Xbox One. If you want Killzone, get a Playstation 4. If neither game is enough to entice one to shell out a couple hundred dollars, hold off for awhile and enjoy one's 360/PS3/Wii/PC/older consoles.
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You're the exact reason most console players hate PC players. PC is not elite, it's not better. Cool, you get better graphics...so what? PC is not better, nor are the consoles better. When it comes down to gaming, all systems are equal. Enough with this pathetic little console/system war.
Sorry but you're wrong, PC is better than all the consoles. It's not about opinion or who is superior, it's just a better platform.
Sorry but you're wrong, PC is better than all the consoles. It's not about opinion or who is superior, it's just a better platform.
PC is better if you know how to build one and use it effectively. Consoles are better for people that don't have much time to play games and young kids (or just people that don't know much about computers). They're also better for getting friends together and playing video games in the same room for a few hours. They're good for different things, and saying one is better than the other 100% is absolutely wrong.
PC is better if you know how to build one and use it effectively. Consoles are better for people that don't have much time to play games and young kids (or just people that don't know much about computers). They're also better for getting friends together and playing video games in the same room for a few hours. They're good for different things, and saying one is better than the other 100% is absolutely wrong.
You do not need to build one, not even close. It is very easy to figure out how to use. Severely restricting your options and locking you out of improving your platform should not be a selling point but apparently you think it is. I cannot understand that. This isn't about a console war or being better than someone for owning a PC, it's just the truth. PC blows consoles away. The only argument that can be made against it is console exclusives and that's an artificial difference forced on the customer by game companies who wanna keep their customers locked into consoles.
You do not need to build one, not even close. It is very easy to figure out how to use. Severely restricting your options and locking you out of improving your platform should not be a selling point but apparently you think it is. I cannot understand that. This isn't about a console war or being better than someone for owning a PC, it's just the truth. PC blows consoles away. The only argument that can be made against it is console exclusives and that's an artificial difference forced on the customer by game companies who wanna keep their customers locked into consoles.
Try inviting a few people over to your house to play video games. See how easy it is with a PC.
Sure, PC's are much better than consoles performance wise, and in many other aspects. Consoles are just much easier to use. And if you want to play any decent games, you will have to build a computer. Otherwise, you can enjoy dropping a ton of money buying a prebuilt.
Well I guess it's pointless to post anymore factual info about PC gaming if this is the kind of nonsense that you guys wanna believe. Have fun with that. I guess everyone is too settled into their US vs THEM mentality and being objective about your options is out of the question. Have fun with that.
You're the exact reason most console players hate PC players. PC is not elite, it's not better. Cool, you get better graphics...so what? PC is not better, nor are the consoles better. When it comes down to gaming, all systems are equal. Enough with this pathetic little console/system war.
lol...seriously? That's not true in the slightest? You think that all consoles are equal?
Good luck with that line of thinking.
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He probably meant equal as in they all have their own pros and cons. That includes PC.
Eh maybe I don't sense that vibe but the way he said "PC isn't better" isn't true. Of course there are opinions but PC has SO many games and SO much graphical capacity although many glitches are harder to setup but if you ask me all the pros weigh of the cons. I also don't count PC a console but it doesn't matter, all consoles do have there pros and cons.
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First comment in the chain:
"Trade in you PS3 and get $100 off an Xbox One" Or I could keep my PS3 and buy a PS4 for the exact same price
The guys first comment in the chain:
Well the xbox one is better and has actually been proved in sales haha...
Im gonna skip all other comments, and move straight into my first comment, and then it goes between me and him.
"It’s been well-documented that Sony’s PS4 has thoroughly beaten Microsoft’s Xbox One in sales since both consoles released back in November."
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See now *****(my name, not a swear), this is where you are wrong. The PS4 has only been bought the people who could not afford the xbox one. My proof; in December of 2013, the xbox one actually outsold the PS4 by 1.8x the amount that PS4 sold. So this provides the evidence that the xbox one is WAY more premium and when people actually have the money, will always choose the xbox one over the PS4. Now if you wish to argue that fact that because the PS4 has better specifications, then explain to me why it constantly drops frames on games that my phone could run? Please just take this all in and Think about your next comment, cause i guarantee you, it will make you look like a fool. :)
First of all, you didn't site a single source. At least I quoted an actual reputable news source. Yes, the XboxOne outsold the PS4 in December, but since launch, the PS4 has outsold the Xbox One 3 to 1 ( http://www.vg247.com/2014/01/30/play-com-ps4-games-outsold-xbox-one-titles-31-over-holidays-pc-software-outselling-both-consoles/ ). Curious how you failed to mention that in your comment. The Xbox and the PS4 have equal specifications, so I really doubt your phone could run any of the games on the PS4. My PS4 has never dropped frames, and neither have any of my friends', so yours is probably damaged.
What exactly do you mean by saying the Xbox One is more premium. The Xbox One has gasp the ability to stream TV, ON MY GOD DAMN TV! ITS SUCH A ING REVOLUTION!
Your fanboyism is fail sir.
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It seems my prediction is Absolutely accurate. First of all you appeared to have made no attempt to read and consider my argument, you have read the first line and thought, hmm, i am definitely right i will keep fighting my corner until he gets bored and eventually gives up on me. Also did you not read the part where i said the PS4 has been bought by people with less money? I guess not since you are so rash with your arguments yet, the whole structure just flops when i pick it apart. So forgive me for being so rude but goodbye, and thank you for backing up my comment.
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WHERE IS YOUR GOD DAMN PROOF? You never gave any proof to back up your comment. Literally at all. I ignored that because it was so idiotic that I thought you were joking. Next time, cite sources kid.
Your argument is literally just, "I'm right, your wrong." You didn't disprove my points, just said that I was wrong, and then just saying goodbye, because you know you can't fight this battle. Good game, no rematch.
Thats currently the end of the comment chain.
Click the dragon. You know you want too.
When it comes down to it, neither of you are right. No console is better than the other. One may have some better features, or runs better, but the other is not a piece of garbage. Something that I think gamer fan boys seem to forget is that everyone has their own personal preference when choosing a console. Some who have grown up playing the Playstation, PS2, etc are always going to choose the console they are more comfortable with. Controller plays a big part of this as well.
There will always be PS vs Xbox wars, which is so stupid. We're all gamers, and we're all playing to have fun. Why should it matter if a console is better? Why should it matter at all if people choose to play the other console? Both systems are equal. They have their differences, but they're still equal. Arguing over which is better is pathetic, and makes the rest of us (who play to have fun and don't care) look bad.
You're the exact reason most console players hate PC players. PC is not elite, it's not better. Cool, you get better graphics...so what? PC is not better, nor are the consoles better. When it comes down to gaming, all systems are equal. Enough with this pathetic little console/system war.
Click the dragon. You know you want too.
Re-read my reply. It doesn't matter whose argument was better. It's stupid to argue over which console is better, and you need to get a grip if you honestly care if you "win" the the argument with him.
These are VIDEO GAME CONSOLES! Who cares? Who cares if your argument about one system being better is better than his argument? Get a freaking grip on reality.
First, lets talk hardware.
PS4 - http://www.ign.com/w..._Hardware_Specs
Xbox One - http://www.ign.com/w..._Hardware_Specs
Now, how about confirmed games?
PS4 - http://www.ign.com/w...Station_4_Games
Xbox One - http://www.ign.com/w..._Xbox_One_Games
I even found this complete side-to-side comparison of consoles and PCs:
http://www.digitalst...icles/25_02.jpg
(You'll probably need to zoom in or out.)
EDIT: Back to the OP, yes your argument was far superior.
Quote me if you want a reply, and please click that little if I helped you out.
Paxit - A Nation-Building Forum Roleplay. Join us!Rest in peace, Paxit.Cool, you can post a bunch of links, doesn't mean you're right. Get off your damn high horse and understand something. We are all gamers. Why are you superior to us because you choose a PC that can run better graphics? Why are you superior because you get some extra games? I am sick of people like you and the original poster who turn video games into a flame war and a retarded debate about THIS CONSOLE IS BETTER, OH MY GOD HEAR ME CRY!!!!!!
You people that argue about which is better are pathetic, flat out pathetic. You PC elitists are worst. You flaunt around you "MASTER RACE HUHUHUHUHU" BS like you're some king. You're not! I don't care if you have five monitors and several amazing top notch keyboards. I don't care if someone's console has ERMEHGERD SPEED. No console, and definitely not PC are better. Each have their own unique qualities, and people like you need to wake the hell up. You're not some better person or better gamer, you never will be, especially if you continue your pathetic master race high horse.
Lets all just go back to playing our games, this argument will never end.
Quote me if you want a reply, and please click that little if I helped you out.
Paxit - A Nation-Building Forum Roleplay. Join us!Rest in peace, Paxit.(My personal opinion is PC's are better but like i said it really what a person is looking for and I'm looking for games on the PC like half life 2, Garys mod, Minecraft etc...) (All of them modable which is really obvious and i didn't list half life 3 because from what I know it's not out yet or I even been confirmed but I could be wrong I don't know)
Also i have to agree with ArarielFett with the PC elitism if your computer lags you shouldn't play the game, you have to play with somethings turned down you shouldn't play the game. I really just love those bastards who think that they are better than you just because their computer can run a game on full graphical settings. Also the elitism in gaming is getting worse the best example I can think of is people on World of tanks. People use the mod XVM which shows the stats of all the players and they judge you based on a number. (This coming from a person who plays video games for fun not to be competitive)
What do you call this? I call it flaming and not even part of the topic. Before you post this garbage of an attempt at flaming me, think about what you're going to post before you post it.
Last time I checked, my post has EVERYTHING to do with this topic. If you don't like it, that's too damn bad.
If you want Killer Instinct, get a Xbox One. If you want Killzone, get a Playstation 4. If neither game is enough to entice one to shell out a couple hundred dollars, hold off for awhile and enjoy one's 360/PS3/Wii/PC/older consoles.
On a side note, Dreamcast > everything else.
"like this coment if you were 301 viewer" - Me
"shut up ur not original" - Somebody else
"its my opinion if u dont like it u can leeve -_-_- bloked" - Me
I wanted to be one of the cool kids.
Sorry but you're wrong, PC is better than all the consoles. It's not about opinion or who is superior, it's just a better platform.
PC is better if you know how to build one and use it effectively. Consoles are better for people that don't have much time to play games and young kids (or just people that don't know much about computers). They're also better for getting friends together and playing video games in the same room for a few hours. They're good for different things, and saying one is better than the other 100% is absolutely wrong.
I wanted to be one of the cool kids.
You do not need to build one, not even close. It is very easy to figure out how to use. Severely restricting your options and locking you out of improving your platform should not be a selling point but apparently you think it is. I cannot understand that. This isn't about a console war or being better than someone for owning a PC, it's just the truth. PC blows consoles away. The only argument that can be made against it is console exclusives and that's an artificial difference forced on the customer by game companies who wanna keep their customers locked into consoles.
Try inviting a few people over to your house to play video games. See how easy it is with a PC.
Sure, PC's are much better than consoles performance wise, and in many other aspects. Consoles are just much easier to use. And if you want to play any decent games, you will have to build a computer. Otherwise, you can enjoy dropping a ton of money buying a prebuilt.
I wanted to be one of the cool kids.
Good luck with that line of thinking.