There won't be one - as it's illegal. So yes, it would make you a pirate.
If you don't even have the power to download a few gigs in a few hours, then it's a problem on your side, not one by the developers or Steam as a decent internet-connection-speed is nowerdays a standard for most people.
Also, it's not a surprise-decion they made at the very last day before release that it becomes a Steamworks-game, they annouced that months before release. Partly because Valve needs time to update their servers with the new files as well.
Not only illiterate but stupid with it. NOWADAYS a decent internet connection speed may be standard for some but not for all. There are unfortunates who live in country areas with slow connections. It takes my connection 30+min to download the game to play and that is in spite of having a computer with an i7 CPU and 6Gb DDR3 memory etc.,. Steam sucks and should be forced to allow people who pay good money to play the game without recourse to their idiotic method of copy protection. After all why should I be denied the right to play the game unhindered because manufacturers are paranoid about somebody pirating it. If I could find a method, legal or illegal, of getting round Steam I would do so. Since I have paid for the game I cannot see that as illegal or pirating. Get real. Steam is rubbish.
Not only illiterate but stupid with it. NOWADAYS a decent internet connection speed may be standard for some but not for all. There are unfortunates who live in country areas with slow connections. It takes my connection 30+min to download the game to play and that is in spite of having a computer with an i7 CPU and 6Gb DDR3 memory etc.,. Steam sucks and should be forced to allow people who pay good money to play the game without recourse to their idiotic method of copy protection. After all why should I be denied the right to play the game unhindered because manufacturers are paranoid about somebody pirating it. If I could find a method, legal or illegal, of getting round Steam I would do so. Since I have paid for the game I cannot see that as illegal or pirating. Get real. Steam is rubbish.
If you have **** internet and you know it, buy it retail. Basic logic.
And before anybody says "Well you still need steam" I KNOW you do. I HAVE Skyrim. But buying retail means it installs off the disk rather than using the internet connection to DL the files from elsewhere; took me maybe ten minutes, and I was not anywhere near a reasonable internet connection at the time (I was at my grandparents slow-as-**** 100kb/s max)
The point remains, if you don't have what you need to handle it, that's not their fault. Complaining about slow internet impeding your digital downloads is like complaining about not being able to install a retail CD because you don't have a CD drive in your computer. Problems caused by a lack of something on the client's side are, by default, the client's problems.
If you have **** internet and you know it, buy it retail. Basic logic.
And before anybody says "Well you still need steam" I KNOW you do. I HAVE Skyrim. But buying retail means it installs off the disk rather than using the internet connection to DL the files from elsewhere; took me maybe ten minutes, and I was not anywhere near a reasonable internet connection at the time (I was at my grandparents slow-as-**** 100kb/s max)
The point remains, if you don't have what you need to handle it, that's not their fault. Complaining about slow internet impeding your digital downloads is like complaining about not being able to install a retail CD because you don't have a CD drive in your computer. Problems caused by a lack of something on the client's side are, by default, the client's problems.
He's referring to Steam's digital-copy prevention and anti-piracy methods, mostly, not so much the actually installation or downloading.
He's referring to Steam's digital-copy prevention and anti-piracy methods, mostly, not so much the actually installation or downloading.
If the anti-piracy's the issue, then one should complain about the anti-piracy, NOT how much of a hassle getting the game is for a slow-connection user. Because, at least to me, that whole post came across as "my internet sucks and Skyrim downloads slow if you buy it on Steam!"
As for anti-piracy, I really don't see how Steam is so bad. It's non-intrusive (Unlike Origin), it does NOT require constant internet (unlike Ubisoft), and it makes owning and maintaining an extensive games library a HELL of a lot easier.
If somebody would care to explain what the issue with it is, I'd appreciate it. I can't even try to understand your argument if I don't know what your problem is. Though, if your reason is "it's DRM and I hate DRM," don't bother replying, because TBH it's not even worth my time to argue against THAT kind of logic.
i believe (and correct me if im wrong) that since the new skyrim update (cant remeber when it was) that you cannot use the .exe anymore i know i have been trying it on my laptop i either get that my steam_api.dll is missing or that it fails to launch the application so if any one can get me some fast help im about to go on a 6 hour long car ride and REALLY want skyrim to work or else ima die :sad.gif:
i believe (and correct me if im wrong) that since the new skyrim update (cant remeber when it was) that you cannot use the .exe anymore i know i have been trying it on my laptop i either get that my steam_api.dll is missing or that it fails to launch the application so if any one can get me some fast help im about to go on a 6 hour long car ride and REALLY want skyrim to work or else ima die :sad.gif:
Does it still run through Steam? If so, just switch Steam to offline mode before you leave.
Ok, I signed into this forum just so I could speak out about the lies being told here. Steam is ****. it has always been ****, we brought it on ourselves by pirating games. We live in a capitalist society. Money rules the world. Money is the reason for spending most of our waking hours working as slaves to simply survive (pay rent, eat, etc). We are happy giving most our lives to an employer, just to survive. In getting way off point. Computer game makers, just like every other profession, only EXIST due to money, due to the making of money. Steam is a way they can ensure they make money in future years, as much money as possible. NOW.... most of us have installed, burned, downloaded a game without purchasing it. Some of us haven't. Irrelevant, the leading industry solution to "piracy" or loss of revenue due to "piracy", is STEAM. STEAM is full of problems, hence the thousands of forums on people just wanting to know how to play the game they PAYED FOR. In some cases (South Africa) it means the person has to pay a hell of a lot more for their game. Due to no fault of theirs, rather the systems STEAM has put in place.
ANYONE saying they LOVE steam, is either an employee, or a BOT.Anyone who thinks big companies don't hire people to go onto forums and spread positive propaganda about them rather than the truthful issues they have, is an ignorant fool. WAKE UP. STEAM representatives.... LEAVE THIS FORUM AND OTHER FORUMS. You don't help customers, or the general public. You evil, lying, scumbags!
DON'T try to retort with some petty picking away at my rant. Don't distract the people from your lies!!!!
It's **** to get free and fast updates, ability to share screenshots, have a full community-management-system with groups, sortable friendslist ect., be able to play even the oldest games on the most up-to-date OS, ablility to download some mods via Steam and keep them up-to-date that way and even be able to test FULL games for FREE (Free Weekend)? Not to mention all those deals during Summer, Christmas and RIGHT NOW during Black Friday...
Uhm, dunno about you, but if someone thinks, those are nothing but downsides, then I would say, that one might need to get to a mental doctor. Fast.
Honestly, the only real downside you got with Steam is that you can't re-sell used games. Which, to some degree, is not even a bad thing as the only ones, who gain from that, are the retailers. (Buying gamees for 2$ and sell the exact same game for 10$ again. Talking about rip-off - where the publisher not even gain something from!)
The argument for buying used games "it's too expensive to buy games new" is easily countered by the fact that Steam GOT SALES (with up to 85% off. Heck, sometimes you get a full franchise for less than you usually pay for the game alone!)
I Guess I'm too late. Idiots fed the troll.
Let me summarize this argument for those who have context identification issues. The general issue at hand is the steam verification process. The unanswered argument (which this guy somehow went around), was summarized to be something like "why am I forced to download the patch to play my game? I don't have proper internet speed, so this is an outrage."
To properly answer your question simply, YOU MAY START IT IN OFFLINE MODE IMMEDIATELY AFTER SUCCESSFUL INSTALLATION. You have a disc, uninstall the game, reinstall it (after verification), and turn off your internet immediately after (so it will ask to go offline).
There's your answer, user from South Africa (sorry, I didn't want to look at your name, too lazy).
Its amazing how ignorant many people are.
Not everybody have internet access or even fast internet access. So forcing everybody to use Steam to install Skyrim (which one can buy on a normal DVD copy) and then also enforcing the auto download of a 200MB + patch is very ignorant and arrogant imho. I know that many third world countries that might have good enough PC's to play Skyrim ,but dont have any or any good or cheap internet access yet. Like me for instance. I am in South Africa and here we pay a fortune for internet access. If we dont have a rather expense annual connection contract (ADSL) then we are forced to pay for 3G (pay as you go) usage where they charge you per megabyte. And trust me, paying for installing Skyrim via Steam online is more expensive than buying the game itself!
I have ordered the game and is awaiting delivery. Now in the meanwhile I started reading reviews and posts on forums and got the shock of my life when I learned about the whole online installation. I need a no steam crack. Not because I am a pirate. Not becuase I have any gripes against Steam. Merely because I cannot afford any internet costs related to installing this game.
At the end of the day, the crux is this: You pay for the game, you should be able to play the game without all the hooha. It should not cost so much to be able to get it up and running...no matter where in the world you are. I bought it ligit...I want to play it! End of story! It is becoming a real pain. I have no problem buying or activating. I don't play multi-player, so why don't I have the choice of updating, etc?? There is nothing wrong with questioning why you don't have a choice. Allow others their opinion or choise to question. If you don't live in a country, which you have no expewrience or knowledge of, rather say nothing at all. If you are not here to help, why are you here???
It's a bit silly to get worked-up about it like that, it's been commonplace for games to require internet activation for years, and it'll also be indicated on the box and usually by the retailler (Steam always makes it clear for example). If Amazon didn't make you aware of that then it's an issue to take up with them.
For what it's worth, buying a Bethesda game without access to patches and mods is utterly pointless anyway :smile.gif:
Ah, so you are one of the employees, bots or liars I have heard about?
I am not worked up, I am annoyed. I will not have the internet in the house. We don't need it and it caused too many problems when we had it when antivirus companies required you to go on-line to update their signatures instead of sending out free disks as they used to. So I connected the new PC, put the antivirus and net software on, connected it to the web for the first time and a virus came down the wire and stuffed things up before I could update things. End of. Between 1997 and 2003 and there weren't so many problems, but I won't have it any more or since.
We invest a lot of time and money in firewalls and antivirus protection at my place of business, so any patches, drivers, chipsets and other updates we need I can download there, check them for viruses and then take them home. I will never at any time allow any remote server to access my home machine, let alone scan it. EVER.
Just because I have nothing to hide does not mean that I am not entitled to freedom and privacy.
Insisting on an internet connection for some form of glorified copy protection is like a publisher saying I can only read their books if I wear their reading glasses. It's bull.
And I will never again buy their books.
I tried that crack and it still needs an internet connection. In fact, the crack itself tries to look for updates on the net. I don't want to steal someone else's account, just bypass STEAM entirely. The fact that it is written in Russian and translated with Google doesn't help.
Would it be possible to install the game on an external hard drive connected to one of my work PCs, authenticate the licence I have paid for, and then install it onto another hard drive? I doubt this would work by just copying across as there is no Windows on my external drive and so the registry won't be updated, but any helpful suggestions gratefully received.
Not only illiterate but stupid with it. NOWADAYS a decent internet connection speed may be standard for some but not for all. There are unfortunates who live in country areas with slow connections. <snip> Get real. Steam is rubbish.
Quite so. There are parts of southern ENGLAND, UK, where people can't get broadband coverage. You don't have to go to South Africa, Outer Mongolia or Peru for that. Just move 50 miles outside London.
My beef is the fact that I cannot install a game I just paid for because I WILL NOT have the internet in the house at all. There's no reason I should not be able to install the game and play it. Patches I can get elsewhere.
All the people that hate Steam most likely are using PCs/Laptops with parts that were made 9-12 years ago... Steam works very well and is one of the best digital services I've ever used. The only time I have trouble with it is if I'm getting internet problems, which does not happen often.
i have a really good computer, but i still dont like steam due to that sometimes games freezes during the "starting up process" (the loading box) or other problems, those problems wouldnt have happend if the game would have worked without steam :tongue.gif:
Even if you buy it from somewhere other then Steam, you will still need to install it through Steam. AFAIK there is no real way around it.
No you wont. You don't need Steam to play it on 360/PS3. Problem solved.
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No, there has never, ever been a sandbox game with a story or ending... except Grand Theft Auto... and Saints Row... and Red Dead Redemption... and Crack Down... and Assassins Creed...
Steam doesn't work for me. I bought my disk from amazon but I don't live in the U.S. most of the time and our internet isn't good. If anyone knows how to crack this game I could use the help. I paid about $60 and all's I have is a really expensive c.d. coaster for my coffee.
Not only illiterate but stupid with it. NOWADAYS a decent internet connection speed may be standard for some but not for all. There are unfortunates who live in country areas with slow connections. It takes my connection 30+min to download the game to play and that is in spite of having a computer with an i7 CPU and 6Gb DDR3 memory etc.,. Steam sucks and should be forced to allow people who pay good money to play the game without recourse to their idiotic method of copy protection. After all why should I be denied the right to play the game unhindered because manufacturers are paranoid about somebody pirating it. If I could find a method, legal or illegal, of getting round Steam I would do so. Since I have paid for the game I cannot see that as illegal or pirating. Get real. Steam is rubbish.
If you have **** internet and you know it, buy it retail. Basic logic.
And before anybody says "Well you still need steam" I KNOW you do. I HAVE Skyrim. But buying retail means it installs off the disk rather than using the internet connection to DL the files from elsewhere; took me maybe ten minutes, and I was not anywhere near a reasonable internet connection at the time (I was at my grandparents slow-as-**** 100kb/s max)
The point remains, if you don't have what you need to handle it, that's not their fault. Complaining about slow internet impeding your digital downloads is like complaining about not being able to install a retail CD because you don't have a CD drive in your computer. Problems caused by a lack of something on the client's side are, by default, the client's problems.
He's referring to Steam's digital-copy prevention and anti-piracy methods, mostly, not so much the actually installation or downloading.
Yeah, and? The illegality of something like this means zilch.
If the anti-piracy's the issue, then one should complain about the anti-piracy, NOT how much of a hassle getting the game is for a slow-connection user. Because, at least to me, that whole post came across as "my internet sucks and Skyrim downloads slow if you buy it on Steam!"
As for anti-piracy, I really don't see how Steam is so bad. It's non-intrusive (Unlike Origin), it does NOT require constant internet (unlike Ubisoft), and it makes owning and maintaining an extensive games library a HELL of a lot easier.
If somebody would care to explain what the issue with it is, I'd appreciate it. I can't even try to understand your argument if I don't know what your problem is. Though, if your reason is "it's DRM and I hate DRM," don't bother replying, because TBH it's not even worth my time to argue against THAT kind of logic.
Does it still run through Steam? If so, just switch Steam to offline mode before you leave.
ANYONE saying they LOVE steam, is either an employee, or a BOT.Anyone who thinks big companies don't hire people to go onto forums and spread positive propaganda about them rather than the truthful issues they have, is an ignorant fool. WAKE UP. STEAM representatives.... LEAVE THIS FORUM AND OTHER FORUMS. You don't help customers, or the general public. You evil, lying, scumbags!
DON'T try to retort with some petty picking away at my rant. Don't distract the people from your lies!!!!
I Guess I'm too late. Idiots fed the troll.
Let me summarize this argument for those who have context identification issues. The general issue at hand is the steam verification process. The unanswered argument (which this guy somehow went around), was summarized to be something like "why am I forced to download the patch to play my game? I don't have proper internet speed, so this is an outrage."
To properly answer your question simply, YOU MAY START IT IN OFFLINE MODE IMMEDIATELY AFTER SUCCESSFUL INSTALLATION. You have a disc, uninstall the game, reinstall it (after verification), and turn off your internet immediately after (so it will ask to go offline).
There's your answer, user from South Africa (sorry, I didn't want to look at your name, too lazy).
Probally just your computer thats slow.
If you try to install it, it just installs it through Steam. I'd guess it just installs steam if you don't have it.
End of story
Ah, so you are one of the employees, bots or liars I have heard about?
I am not worked up, I am annoyed. I will not have the internet in the house. We don't need it and it caused too many problems when we had it when antivirus companies required you to go on-line to update their signatures instead of sending out free disks as they used to. So I connected the new PC, put the antivirus and net software on, connected it to the web for the first time and a virus came down the wire and stuffed things up before I could update things. End of. Between 1997 and 2003 and there weren't so many problems, but I won't have it any more or since.
We invest a lot of time and money in firewalls and antivirus protection at my place of business, so any patches, drivers, chipsets and other updates we need I can download there, check them for viruses and then take them home. I will never at any time allow any remote server to access my home machine, let alone scan it. EVER.
Just because I have nothing to hide does not mean that I am not entitled to freedom and privacy.
Insisting on an internet connection for some form of glorified copy protection is like a publisher saying I can only read their books if I wear their reading glasses. It's bull.
And I will never again buy their books.
I tried that crack and it still needs an internet connection. In fact, the crack itself tries to look for updates on the net. I don't want to steal someone else's account, just bypass STEAM entirely. The fact that it is written in Russian and translated with Google doesn't help.
Would it be possible to install the game on an external hard drive connected to one of my work PCs, authenticate the licence I have paid for, and then install it onto another hard drive? I doubt this would work by just copying across as there is no Windows on my external drive and so the registry won't be updated, but any helpful suggestions gratefully received.
Cheers.
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Quite so. There are parts of southern ENGLAND, UK, where people can't get broadband coverage. You don't have to go to South Africa, Outer Mongolia or Peru for that. Just move 50 miles outside London.
My beef is the fact that I cannot install a game I just paid for because I WILL NOT have the internet in the house at all. There's no reason I should not be able to install the game and play it. Patches I can get elsewhere.
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i have a really good computer, but i still dont like steam due to that sometimes games freezes during the "starting up process" (the loading box) or other problems, those problems wouldnt have happend if the game would have worked without steam :tongue.gif:
And the pirated version has its flaws as well, (I.E not being able to use the mouse in menus, Dual-casting certain spells, etc.).
No you wont. You don't need Steam to play it on 360/PS3. Problem solved.