Hi guys! I'm currently playing on what I believe is a 2009 MacBook Pro. It has an Intel Core 2 Duo Processor and 4GB of Ram. It works fine, I guess... the thing is, I am hosting a Minecraft server and it lags very badly sometimes when only 3-4 players are on it. Sometimes I have 8-10 maximum on the server. Seeing as the computer is getting pretty old now, I'm wondering what the best type of Mac is for playing Minecraft. I assume the one with the most RAM and highest processor. And I don't care if you mention a desktop or another laptop. Thanks for your help!
If you are inexperienced with Macs, please list some good gaming PCs that can be purchased for low prices, and that run Minecraft very smoothly. Thank you.
P.S. I have tried everything to reduce lag... fast graphics, no clouds, default texture pack, I have 3GB of RAM going into the server, I've allocated 2GB of RAM to running Minecraft itself. So yea, that's it. Thanks!
Hi guys! I'm currently playing on what I believe is a 2009 MacBook Pro. It has an Intel Core 2 Duo Processor and 4GB of Ram. It works fine, I guess... the thing is, I am hosting a Minecraft server and it lags very badly sometimes when only 3-4 players are on it. Sometimes I have 8-10 maximum on the server. Seeing as the computer is getting pretty old now, I'm wondering what the best type of Mac is for playing Minecraft. I assume the one with the most RAM and highest processor. And I don't care if you mention a desktop or another laptop. Thanks for your help!
If you are inexperienced with Macs, please list some good gaming PCs that can be purchased for low prices, and that run Minecraft very smoothly. Thank you.
P.S. I have tried everything to reduce lag... fast graphics, no clouds, default texture pack, I have 3GB of RAM going into the server, I've allocated 2GB of RAM to running Minecraft itself. So yea, that's it. Thanks!
To be completely honest, no mac can beat the price and performance of a build-it-yourself PC. You'll often find you get double the performance of a mac at half the price, and you can run more games on them to boot. If you would like, we could recommend you parts to put together and load your own OS onto (be it OSX or Windows)
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i5 4670k @ 4.9GHz - Stock Heatsink - The rest is melted silicon but I think I have a graphics card in there somewhere It surprises me how many people on this forum can't read benchmarks.
Well, you shouldn't start with asking for a mac but luckily you are open to PC's. The reason you shouldn't care about Macs is because they are always overpriced and you never get much. For the same price as any Mac, I can give you a list of parts for a computer (a "build") that will out preform it in every single way imaginable. Not only that, the current OSX won't support as much software as Windows 7. If you only plan on playing and hosting a minecraft server we won't have to give you a build that is very expensive or powerful. However, the main limiting factor for the performance on a server for the other players will be you internet connection. If you still wish to host a server I suggest that you rent one out from a website. It isn't that much, last time I checked it was about $12 per month.
I recently built my computer just last month, and it was a quick simple process. I made a build that was meant for high performance gaming, but yours would be less powerful and less expensive. If you already have a monitor and the peripherals (keyboard, mouse, and speakers), then my guess the price would be about $800. The common expression for building a computer around here is that it is like a box of legos where every part has its own place. There are plenty of tutorials on building a computer, here is a popular one made by Newegg: .
I honestly don't see why everybody is so negative towards macs. Call me an iSheep (or an iEntei), but I think the OS is actually superior compared to that of Windows's. Of course, the hardware for a $2000 MacBook Pro isn't going to be anything like a $2000 custom gaming computer, but some people actually want to use a computer for things more than games.
IMHO, any mac with an nVidia graphics card is really good for video gaming in general. And I would advise you to stay away from i7s in macs, since they have been known to overheat, and I would also stay away from 8-gb or higher RAM if you're buying from Apple. For a laptop, I'd go with a 15-in. Non-Retina MacBook Pro with an SSD, since it has the "good" graphics cards. But if you're going to buy a desktop, I'd suggest any of the iMacs. I'd stay away from the Mac Mini if I were you.
But in all honesty, Macs and PCs were not designed for the same things. Mac OS X was (and is) designed for simplicity of use, and not power. Windows, in my opinion, was designed only for power, and not much else. And also coupled with the fact that you can custom-build a PC makes Windows a better choice than a Mac when it comes to gaming. But if you need a computer for school, or work, or just anything else other than gaming, I'd go with a mac.
I honestly don't see why everybody is so negative towards macs. Call me an iSheep (or an iEntei), but I think the OS is actually superior compared to that of Windows's. Of course, the hardware for a $2000 MacBook Pro isn't going to be anything like a $2000 custom gaming computer, but some people actually want to use a computer for things more than games.
IMHO, any mac with an nVidia graphics card is really good for video gaming in general. And I would advise you to stay away from i7s in macs, since they have been known to overheat, and I would also stay away from 8-gb or higher RAM if you're buying from Apple. For a laptop, I'd go with a 15-in. Non-Retina MacBook Pro with an SSD, since it has the "good" graphics cards. But if you're going to buy a desktop, I'd suggest any of the iMacs. I'd stay away from the Mac Mini if I were you.
But in all honesty, Macs and PCs were not designed for the same things. Mac OS X was (and is) designed for simplicity of use, and not power. Windows, in my opinion, was designed only for power, and not much else. And also coupled with the fact that you can custom-build a PC makes Windows a better choice than a Mac when it comes to gaming. But if you need a computer for school, or work, or just anything else other than gaming, I'd go with a mac.
Just saying. Feel free to disagree.
The OS is good and all, but why? The OS isn't worth a billion dollars.
I honestly don't see why everybody is so negative towards macs. Call me an iSheep (or an iEntei), but I think the OS is actually superior compared to that of Windows's.We all do. Of course, the hardware for a $2000 MacBook Pro isn't going to be anything like a $2000 custom gaming computer, but some people actually want to use a computer for things more than games.Yes, and if I want to use my computer for things other than games, I'll have tons of money left over to spend on those things.
IMHO, any mac with an nVidia graphics card is really good for video gaming in general. And I would advise you to stay away from i7s in macs, since they have been known to overheat, and I would also stay away from 8-gb or higher RAM if you're buying from Apple. For a laptop, I'd go with a 15-in. Non-Retina MacBook Pro with an SSD, since it has the "good" graphics cards.No it doesn't - the same crap in the iMac, but branded Nvidia instead of AMD. But if you're going to buy a desktop, I'd suggest any of the iMacs.THE. IMAC. IS. NOT. A. TRUE. DESKTOP. I'd stay away from the Mac Mini if I were you.The top end iMac has less graphical power than a $500 homebuild costing a quarter of its price. No kidding.
But in all honesty, Macs and PCs were not designed for the same things.Yes they were. They ended up on different paths, but the original vision was mostly the same. Mac OS X was (and is) designed for simplicity of use, and not power. Windows, in my opinion, was designed only for power, and not much else.Completely wrong. And also coupled with the fact that you can custom-build a PC makes Windows a better choice than a Mac when it comes to gaming. But if you need a computer for schoolMacs are more expensive, making them a worse choice for limited school budgets, or worklack of intercompatibility Mac <--> Windows, or just anything else other than gaming, I'd go with a mac.What if you need software only available on Windows?
Just saying. Feel free to disagree.
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I agree, The one that I'm saving up for (900$) Has very in-depth instuctions, and runs as fast as the 2500$ Mac Pro. If you want to spen 500 more $ then you can get hack that runs as fast as a 3400$ mac pro. Link to website: http://nofilmschool.com/build-a-hackintosh/
Thank you for your help so far, everyone. As of now, I have a 25.78 mb/s download speed, a 3.1 mb/s upload speed, and 27 ms Ping. How is this connection compared to you guys? I used speedtest.net for this.
Also, I'm not really all that intrigued with the idea of building my own computer, especially because I'm just a 15 year old guy, and my school uses Macs. (this is why I have a Mac) So, I'd really like to stick with Apple for now because of my school, but would still be alright with looking into buying a cheap PC or building my own computer if it is simple enough. The thing is, I don't have much money at all, and my parents probably wouldn't be all that happy with the idea of buying me a good PC just for Minecraft. I just love Minecraft so much and am the only one who knows how to make a server out of all of my friends.
So, any further suggestions would be greatly appreciated, and I do think it would be pretty sweet if I could build my own computer...I'd just want it to be nice and cheap. Cheap PCs would be acceptable too, but most of all, I'd prefer to solve my problems just with the Mac I currently have.
In my opinion (not sure about others) I this the OSX isn't really supported by games such as Minecraft and it's much slower than Windows 7, etc. If you see Macs with 670MX's and 680 SLI's I wouldn't recommend getting them because the OS is so bad. Macs (as well as mostly all of apple) they are OVERPRICED much like Alienwares, I would probably get one for some college/university work but not for gaming. Get Windows.
I'm not sure there is a difference between a 670M and a 670MX, I'm pretty sure the X is slapped on by Apple. And there's a Mac out there w/ dual 680s?
Thank you for your help so far, everyone. As of now, I have a 25.78 mb/s download speed, a 3.1 mb/s upload speed, and 27 ms Ping. How is this connection compared to you guys? I used speedtest.net for this.
Also, I'm not really all that intrigued with the idea of building my own computer, especially because I'm just a 15 year old guy, and my school uses Macs. (this is why I have a Mac) So, I'd really like to stick with Apple for now because of my school, but would still be alright with looking into buying a cheap PC or building my own computer if it is simple enough. The thing is, I don't have much money at all, and my parents probably wouldn't be all that happy with the idea of buying me a good PC just for Minecraft. I just love Minecraft so much and am the only one who knows how to make a server out of all of my friends.
So, any further suggestions would be greatly appreciated, and I do think it would be pretty sweet if I could build my own computer...I'd just want it to be nice and cheap. Cheap PCs would be acceptable too, but most of all, I'd prefer to solve my problems just with the Mac I currently have.
Thanks, guys!
Building a computer is actually quite simple. I did it when I was 13, and the first one I build I actually Hackintoshed. You could do the same. What is your definition of "cheap" (i.e. what's your budget).
I'd really like to stick with Apple for now because of my school, but would still be alright with looking into buying a cheap PC or building my own computer if it is simple enough. The thing is, I don't have much money at all, and my parents probably wouldn't be all that happy with the idea of buying me a good PC just for Minecraft.
*Sigh* I never got the point of educational institutions using macs. I also never got the point of my English teacher signing us up for the Mac Lab for essay writing when there's a perfectly good and empty Windows Lab with mechanical keyboards right next door. But I digress.
Anyway, your internet seems fine, my friend manages 5ish at a time with 3/4 your up/down. I'm assuming you're hosting and playing at the same time. When you're running a server and playing MC, are we talking server lag or framerate "lag?" If it's the latter, check what's bottlenecking (cpu or gpu). Only allocate 1GB to minecraft, since if it uses more than 1GB we have bigger problems than a laggy server. Try allocating only 2GB to the server.
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i5 4670k @ 4.9GHz - Stock Heatsink - The rest is melted silicon but I think I have a graphics card in there somewhere It surprises me how many people on this forum can't read benchmarks.
*Sigh* I never got the point of educational institutions using macs. I also never got the point of my English teacher signing us up for the Mac Lab for essay writing when there's a perfectly good and empty Windows Lab with mechanical keyboards right next door. But I digress.
Anyway, your internet seems fine, my friend manages 5ish at a time with 3/4 your up/down. I'm assuming you're hosting and playing at the same time. When you're running a server and playing MC, are we talking server lag or framerate "lag?" If it's the latter, check what's bottlenecking (cpu or gpu). Only allocate 1GB to minecraft, since if it uses more than 1GB we have bigger problems than a laggy server. Try allocating only 2GB to the server.
I have taken your advice about the allocation of RAM, and things seem to have gotten a little bit better... and i'm talking about framerate lag. The server runs peffectly fine, and to answer your questions, yes, I am playing and hosting at the same time.
Building a computer is actually quite simple. I did it when I was 13, and the first one I build I actually Hackintoshed. You could do the same. What is your definition of "cheap" (i.e. what's your budget).
When I say "cheap," I'm talking about probably < $500. If I'm being ignorant and this number is way too low, please excuse me. I would appreciate it if you can point me in a certain direction and if you could explain what exactly "Hackintosh" is. Thank you, sir!
I have taken your advice about the allocation of RAM, and things seem to have gotten a little bit better... and i'm talking about framerate lag. The server runs peffectly fine, and to answer your questions, yes, I am playing and hosting at the same time.
When I say "cheap," I'm talking about probably < $500. If I'm being ignorant and this number is way too low, please excuse me. I would appreciate it if you can point me in a certain direction and if you could explain what exactly "Hackintosh" is. Thank you, sir!
You can build a computer for $500. It could max minecraft and host a server at the same time, most likely. You cannot get a mac for that price however, the cheapest mac is the Mac Mini which is $600 for the crappiest specs, and it couldn't even run Minecraft hardly.
A hackintosh is a PC with Mac OSX compatible hardware so that you can install Mac OSX on it, and run it just like a Mac. Building computers saves money because you're not paying someone else to make it for you.
We can give lists of parts that you can get to build a computer. Are you interested in doing a hackintosh, keep in mind it's a fairly advanced process, but still not too challenging.
You can build a computer for $500. It could max minecraft and host a server at the same time, most likely. You cannot get a mac for that price however, the cheapest mac is the Mac Mini which is $600 for the crappiest specs, and it couldn't even run Minecraft hardly.
A hackintosh is a PC with Mac OSX compatible hardware so that you can install Mac OSX on it, and run it just like a Mac. Building computers saves money because you're not paying someone else to make it for you.
We can give lists of parts that you can get to build a computer. Are you interested in doing a hackintosh, keep in mind it's a fairly advanced process, but still not too challenging.
I'd be interested in doing a Hackintosh or just any old computer if it will run Minecraft like a good gaming computer and not just like my MacBook Pro. I want to be able to host servers, and play with little to no lag. That's all I'm looking for. Something like a good computer for Minecraft... Thanks!
If you are inexperienced with Macs, please list some good gaming PCs that can be purchased for low prices, and that run Minecraft very smoothly. Thank you.
P.S. I have tried everything to reduce lag... fast graphics, no clouds, default texture pack, I have 3GB of RAM going into the server, I've allocated 2GB of RAM to running Minecraft itself. So yea, that's it. Thanks!
It surprises me how many people on this forum can't read benchmarks.
I recently built my computer just last month, and it was a quick simple process. I made a build that was meant for high performance gaming, but yours would be less powerful and less expensive. If you already have a monitor and the peripherals (keyboard, mouse, and speakers), then my guess the price would be about $800. The common expression for building a computer around here is that it is like a box of legos where every part has its own place. There are plenty of tutorials on building a computer, here is a popular one made by Newegg: .
IMHO, any mac with an nVidia graphics card is really good for video gaming in general. And I would advise you to stay away from i7s in macs, since they have been known to overheat, and I would also stay away from 8-gb or higher RAM if you're buying from Apple. For a laptop, I'd go with a 15-in. Non-Retina MacBook Pro with an SSD, since it has the "good" graphics cards. But if you're going to buy a desktop, I'd suggest any of the iMacs. I'd stay away from the Mac Mini if I were you.
But in all honesty, Macs and PCs were not designed for the same things. Mac OS X was (and is) designed for simplicity of use, and not power. Windows, in my opinion, was designed only for power, and not much else. And also coupled with the fact that you can custom-build a PC makes Windows a better choice than a Mac when it comes to gaming. But if you need a computer for school, or work, or just anything else other than gaming, I'd go with a mac.
Just saying. Feel free to disagree.
The OS is good and all, but why? The OS isn't worth a billion dollars.
I agree, The one that I'm saving up for (900$) Has very in-depth instuctions, and runs as fast as the 2500$ Mac Pro. If you want to spen 500 more $ then you can get hack that runs as fast as a 3400$ mac pro. Link to website:
http://nofilmschool.com/build-a-hackintosh/
The case is still pretty though.
What is that, an Antec P183?
Also, I'm not really all that intrigued with the idea of building my own computer, especially because I'm just a 15 year old guy, and my school uses Macs. (this is why I have a Mac) So, I'd really like to stick with Apple for now because of my school, but would still be alright with looking into buying a cheap PC or building my own computer if it is simple enough. The thing is, I don't have much money at all, and my parents probably wouldn't be all that happy with the idea of buying me a good PC just for Minecraft. I just love Minecraft so much and am the only one who knows how to make a server out of all of my friends.
So, any further suggestions would be greatly appreciated, and I do think it would be pretty sweet if I could build my own computer...I'd just want it to be nice and cheap. Cheap PCs would be acceptable too, but most of all, I'd prefer to solve my problems just with the Mac I currently have.
Thanks, guys!
I'm not sure there is a difference between a 670M and a 670MX, I'm pretty sure the X is slapped on by Apple. And there's a Mac out there w/ dual 680s?
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Building a computer is actually quite simple. I did it when I was 13, and the first one I build I actually Hackintoshed. You could do the same. What is your definition of "cheap" (i.e. what's your budget).
Equivalent to around a 7850.
And it's found in most not-quite-top-end gaming laptops.
Anyway, your internet seems fine, my friend manages 5ish at a time with 3/4 your up/down. I'm assuming you're hosting and playing at the same time. When you're running a server and playing MC, are we talking server lag or framerate "lag?" If it's the latter, check what's bottlenecking (cpu or gpu). Only allocate 1GB to minecraft, since if it uses more than 1GB we have bigger problems than a laggy server. Try allocating only 2GB to the server.
It surprises me how many people on this forum can't read benchmarks.
I have taken your advice about the allocation of RAM, and things seem to have gotten a little bit better... and i'm talking about framerate lag. The server runs peffectly fine, and to answer your questions, yes, I am playing and hosting at the same time.
When I say "cheap," I'm talking about probably < $500. If I'm being ignorant and this number is way too low, please excuse me. I would appreciate it if you can point me in a certain direction and if you could explain what exactly "Hackintosh" is. Thank you, sir!
You can build a computer for $500. It could max minecraft and host a server at the same time, most likely. You cannot get a mac for that price however, the cheapest mac is the Mac Mini which is $600 for the crappiest specs, and it couldn't even run Minecraft hardly.
A hackintosh is a PC with Mac OSX compatible hardware so that you can install Mac OSX on it, and run it just like a Mac. Building computers saves money because you're not paying someone else to make it for you.
We can give lists of parts that you can get to build a computer. Are you interested in doing a hackintosh, keep in mind it's a fairly advanced process, but still not too challenging.
I'd be interested in doing a Hackintosh or just any old computer if it will run Minecraft like a good gaming computer and not just like my MacBook Pro. I want to be able to host servers, and play with little to no lag. That's all I'm looking for. Something like a good computer for Minecraft... Thanks!