I find it interesting that there is so little circuitry and electronics on the actual boards compared to previous sockets. Here is a prototype, and pre-production board. Also interesting that they are moving away from quad channel memory and going back down to just dual channel (again).
Haswell prototype (nothing labeled, layout not finalized) motherboard from MSi:
Wait..., TWO 8-pin CPU power inputs? What the hell?
Wait..., TWO 8-pin CPU power inputs? What the hell?
12 phase power for dual EPS connectors or 1 8pin EPS and 1 P4. Honestly on the motherboard manufacture can tell you that one. These ARE prototype boards however, so the design here is obviously not consumer.
12 phase power for dual EPS connectors or 1 8pin EPS and 1 P4. Honestly on the motherboard manufacture can tell you that one. These ARE prototype boards however, so the design here is obviously not consumer.
I hope not... 8+8? That's a bit overkill... compared to today's CPUs then again there was a time.. where it was just 1x4pin
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Wait..., TWO 8-pin CPU power inputs? What the hell?
Probably just for the prototype board.
Note the debug tool header to the right of the ATX20/4 pin (the blue thing) and that nothing is labeled, and the electronics on the board seem to be mismatched random pieces of what they had left over (in addition, the board itself looks to be made from really cheap PCB).
Note the debug tool header to the right of the ATX20/4 pin (the blue thing) and that nothing is labeled, and the electronics on the board seem to be mismatched random pieces of what they had left over (in addition, the board itself looks to be made from really cheap PCB).
The awkward moment when this is the final product.
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It won't be THAT far trust me, but it'll be small bounds.
Isn't it something like 60% faster than the 4000? And the 4000 is 60% faster than the 3000, so they seem to be making quick progress in the realm of integrated cards.
The 4000 runs Minecraft perfectly at high settings on my Macbook, so... These new cards will be pretty damn good...
Isn't it something like 60% faster than the 4000? And the 4000 is 60% faster than the 3000, so they seem to be making quick progress in the realm of integrated cards.
The 4000 runs Minecraft perfectly at high settings on my Macbook, so... These new cards will be pretty damn good...
Damn good if you never compare them to the competition at all.
Isn't it something like 60% faster than the 4000? And the 4000 is 60% faster than the 3000, so they seem to be making quick progress in the realm of integrated cards.
The 4000 runs Minecraft perfectly at high settings on my Macbook, so... These new cards will be pretty damn good...
It's the gt3 integrated graphics that will boost the haswell off the charts. Gt2 and Gt1 are going to be useless for quality gaming.
Just a quick question but why did it take so long for black PCB to become the standard? I mean you look at older boards and you see the ugliest shades of orange, green, blue, red, with very few black PCB boards. Black PCB looks the best and interferes the least, why wasn't it always the standard?
Just a quick question but why did it take so long for black PCB to become the standard? I mean you look at older boards and you see the ugliest shades of orange, green, blue, red, with very few black PCB boards. Black PCB looks the best and interferes the least, why wasn't it always the standard?
Color costs money.
PCB by default depending on the materials used is usually dark blue/puke brown/green, IIRC.
PCB by default depending on the materials used is usually dark blue/puke brown/green, IIRC.
If we're honest though, painting a PCB can't cost very much money compared to the cost of the other things on it. Maybe 1-2 extra dollars in paint, but a robot could probably be programmed to do the painting automatically.
If we're honest though, painting a PCB can't cost very much money compared to the cost of the other things on it. Maybe 1-2 extra dollars in paint, but a robot could probably be programmed to do the painting automatically.
That would add up to quite a bit when you are producing 200,000 boards, even at $1-2.
That would add up to quite a bit when you are producing 200,000 boards, even at $1-2.
well if its costs only a few extra bucks for a company to make a PSU modular compared to non-modular, these guys can paint a PCB.
And for me, i would GLADLY pay $5 for a black pcb over a brown/green PCB
off-ish topic, are there white motherboards?
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Wait..., TWO 8-pin CPU power inputs? What the hell?
nice catch. What's that about?
12 phase power for dual EPS connectors or 1 8pin EPS and 1 P4. Honestly on the motherboard manufacture can tell you that one. These ARE prototype boards however, so the design here is obviously not consumer.
I hope not... 8+8? That's a bit overkill... compared to today's CPUs then again there was a time.. where it was just 1x4pin
Who in their right mind is gonna be pumping 672w through a brand new Haswell chip?
Note the debug tool header to the right of the ATX20/4 pin (the blue thing) and that nothing is labeled, and the electronics on the board seem to be mismatched random pieces of what they had left over (in addition, the board itself looks to be made from really cheap PCB).
The awkward moment when this is the final product.
I'm sure it will mate, i'm sure it will!
It won't be THAT far trust me, but it'll be small bounds.
The 4000 runs Minecraft perfectly at high settings on my Macbook, so... These new cards will be pretty damn good...
Damn good if you never compare them to the competition at all.
It's the gt3 integrated graphics that will boost the haswell off the charts. Gt2 and Gt1 are going to be useless for quality gaming.
And then there's that. AMD will have a fierce lineup of cpus as well, so I can see some int. gpu wars welling up
Just a quick question but why did it take so long for black PCB to become the standard? I mean you look at older boards and you see the ugliest shades of orange, green, blue, red, with very few black PCB boards. Black PCB looks the best and interferes the least, why wasn't it always the standard?
PCB by default depending on the materials used is usually dark blue/puke brown/green, IIRC.
If we're honest though, painting a PCB can't cost very much money compared to the cost of the other things on it. Maybe 1-2 extra dollars in paint, but a robot could probably be programmed to do the painting automatically.
well if its costs only a few extra bucks for a company to make a PSU modular compared to non-modular, these guys can paint a PCB.
And for me, i would GLADLY pay $5 for a black pcb over a brown/green PCB
off-ish topic, are there white motherboards?
if someone suggests Alienware or Cyberpower, wait for a custom-built list from someone who knows their stuff. Meh Rig