Again, there are quieter and better CFM alternatives.
Squirrel cage fans have been bad since the GT 6000 series, and have not gotten any better. Especially in the noise department.
I'm going to have to agree with you here. Not only could better be done, it looks bad in my opinion. I mean for a reference cooler it's decent, but I still prefer the looks of my Windforce 3 from Gigabyte over it.
I'm going to have to agree with you here. Not only could better be done, it looks bad in my opinion. I mean for a reference cooler it's decent, but I still prefer the looks of my Windforce 3 from Gigabyte over it.
Looks is subjective. Although I agree the windforce 3 cools great, it is ugly as sin. One of the worst looking coolers there is, probably more so than the Asus DCUII.
1. they are going way before AMD with the release of a flagship card R&D takes time but 8000 series isnt due till Q3 or Q4 that long enough to pull something off
2. if an early listing by amazon I think it was is to be trusted it would be $1500 I highly doubt it will id go for about $1000 though
3. No overvolting I get why they lock it but seriously they could have just limited it to stop idiots from frying a card
4. supposedly Nvidia are not allowing non reference PCBs
5. inconsistant its failed Tesla chips so they fail for various reasons
it has potential though and if it comes in at a low enough price at any point id consider going for one unless the 8000 series brings something better
No overvolting because they don't want to replace a $900 card. It's not a new flagship card, it's supposedly a replacement or whatever, or maybe it's its own standalone thing and not a part of the 600 or 700 series. The non reference PCB's is a bit weird but when you think about it it's probably for the best, besides its not like Nvidias PCBs are bad. The chips are bad for Tesla chips, that doesn't mean they will be bad for consumers, and I bet they are the Tesla chips that almost made it to market. I wonder how they are getting $900 on the price though? Tesla cards cost like $3000.
The HIS IceQ cards are the ugliest cards on the market IMO. I like the Twin Frozr's, especially the Lightning cards.
Whatever floats your boat I guess. I don't have a problem with blower coolers.
Looks is subjective. Although I agree the windforce 3 cools great, it is ugly as sin. One of the worst looking coolers there is, probably more so than the Asus DCUII.
I don't know, I kind of like the looks of my 7950 WF3
The HIS IceQ cards are the ugliest cards on the market IMO. I like the Twin Frozr's, especially the Lightning cards.
thats your opinion.
My 7870 never gets above 55 with stock fan speeds. And its Oced to 1100Mhz Core and 1200Mhz RAM
Also, that's card will probably need support stands... looks heavy...
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thats your opinion.
My 7870 never gets above 55 with stock fan speeds. And its Oced to 1100Mhz Core and 1200Mhz RAM
Also, that's card will probably need support stands... looks heavy...
All of the MSI cards are dual slot, not behemoths like the Asus DCUII. Most coolers are comparable (Twin Frozr and Windforce are around ~5 degrees within each other, same with the other cards) that the maximum OC you can get is really about how good your chip is. Granted, the current method of cooling cards, besides water cooling, is really crappy in general.
I don't know, I kind of like the looks of my 7950 WF3
Yeah, I like my 670's Windforce cooler as well. It's not the prettiest looking cooler out there, but it doesn't look terrible either, and it's extremely good at cooling.
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All of the MSI cards are dual slot, not behemoths like the Asus DCUII. Most coolers are comparable (Twin Frozr and Windforce are around ~5 degrees within each other, same with the other cards) that the maximum OC you can get is really about how good your chip is. Granted, the current method of cooling cards, besides water cooling, is really crappy in general.
there's not many ways to cool it. You can
A: Blow a fan on a Heat-sink and deposit the air in the case where fans must move it out.
B: Blow it out the back
C: include a closed waterloop
D: just have a massive heat sink.
And what i meant is it looks like the case is made of metal, so it looks heavy...
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there's not many ways to cool it. You can
A: Blow a fan on a Heat-sink and deposit the air in the case where fans must move it out.
B: Blow it out the back
C: include a closed waterloop
D: just have a massive heat sink.
And what i meant is it looks like the case is made of metal, so it looks heavy...
I only know of one card that includes a closed water loop, the Asus Ares 2 and those are uber expensive and hard to get. Our current method is to blow it out the back which is just wrong, I mean, heat rises so why not have it like that? I can't really blame the engineers because it's not the best idea they had, it's what they had to work with, but whatever. The reason we don't put massive heatsinks on cards is because think about the motherboard, if you have too much weight hanging off of it it will bend and possibly break.
I only know of one card that includes a closed water loop, the Asus Ares 2 and those are uber expensive and hard to get. Our current method is to blow it out the back which is just wrong, I mean, heat rises so why not have it like that? I can't really blame the engineers because it's not the best idea they had, it's what they had to work with, but whatever. The reason we don't put massive heatsinks on cards is because think about the motherboard, if you have too much weight hanging off of it it will bend and possibly break.
clearly you never seen the MARS II from Asus, that thing was so large and heavy they included a litle peice thatnyou plugged in below it to prevent it from leaning down. In my opinion graphics cards should be like cpu's, the motherboard handles power and what not, you can install more ram as you need and of course the gpu would come as a chip you installed in a socket, then you could say stick a d-14 on it if you really wanted (any cooler would do, but thats an extreme example).
I only know of one card that includes a closed water loop, the Asus Ares 2 and those are uber expensive and hard to get. Our current method is to blow it out the back which is just wrong, I mean, heat rises so why not have it like that? I can't really blame the engineers because it's not the best idea they had, it's what they had to work with, but whatever. The reason we don't put massive heatsinks on cards is because think about the motherboard, if you have too much weight hanging off of it it will bend and possibly break.
i'd love to see more case comapnys using the 90° mounting that the Silverstone Raven uses, just makes so much more sense it isn't funny for cooling
Don't they have that patented? I guess another company could do 89.5º mounting if they wanted.
or 270º...
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Unless Silverstone makes the cases for FNW then no, because FNW does the exact same thing.
wouldn't that still be 90 degrees?
Depends on how you measure it.
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I actually might look into one of these, I have the money and I don't care about it being extreme overkill. But if I do, I'd put a waterblock on it ASAP, those squirrel cage fans look like .
Squirrel cage fans have been bad since the GT 6000 series, and have not gotten any better. Especially in the noise department.
I'm going to have to agree with you here. Not only could better be done, it looks bad in my opinion. I mean for a reference cooler it's decent, but I still prefer the looks of my Windforce 3 from Gigabyte over it.
Whatever floats your boat I guess. I don't have a problem with blower coolers.
Looks is subjective. Although I agree the windforce 3 cools great, it is ugly as sin. One of the worst looking coolers there is, probably more so than the Asus DCUII.
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No overvolting because they don't want to replace a $900 card. It's not a new flagship card, it's supposedly a replacement or whatever, or maybe it's its own standalone thing and not a part of the 600 or 700 series. The non reference PCB's is a bit weird but when you think about it it's probably for the best, besides its not like Nvidias PCBs are bad. The chips are bad for Tesla chips, that doesn't mean they will be bad for consumers, and I bet they are the Tesla chips that almost made it to market. I wonder how they are getting $900 on the price though? Tesla cards cost like $3000.
The HIS IceQ cards are the ugliest cards on the market IMO. I like the Twin Frozr's, especially the Lightning cards.
I don't know, I kind of like the looks of my 7950 WF3
thats your opinion.
My 7870 never gets above 55 with stock fan speeds. And its Oced to 1100Mhz Core and 1200Mhz RAM
Also, that's card will probably need support stands... looks heavy...
if someone suggests Alienware or Cyberpower, wait for a custom-built list from someone who knows their stuff. Meh Rig
All of the MSI cards are dual slot, not behemoths like the Asus DCUII. Most coolers are comparable (Twin Frozr and Windforce are around ~5 degrees within each other, same with the other cards) that the maximum OC you can get is really about how good your chip is. Granted, the current method of cooling cards, besides water cooling, is really crappy in general.
MCF isn't 4chan.
Yeah, I like my 670's Windforce cooler as well. It's not the prettiest looking cooler out there, but it doesn't look terrible either, and it's extremely good at cooling.
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there's not many ways to cool it. You can
A: Blow a fan on a Heat-sink and deposit the air in the case where fans must move it out.
B: Blow it out the back
C: include a closed waterloop
D: just have a massive heat sink.
And what i meant is it looks like the case is made of metal, so it looks heavy...
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Considering ATI doesn't really exist as a brand anymore, I would be very surprised. AMD on the other hand......
http://pcpartpicker.com/user/SteevyT/saved/21PI
I only know of one card that includes a closed water loop, the Asus Ares 2 and those are uber expensive and hard to get. Our current method is to blow it out the back which is just wrong, I mean, heat rises so why not have it like that? I can't really blame the engineers because it's not the best idea they had, it's what they had to work with, but whatever. The reason we don't put massive heatsinks on cards is because think about the motherboard, if you have too much weight hanging off of it it will bend and possibly break.
i'd love to see more case comapnys using the 90° mounting that the Silverstone Raven uses, just makes so much more sense it isn't funny for cooling
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Don't they have that patented? I guess another company could do 89.5º mounting if they wanted.
http://pcpartpicker.com/user/SteevyT/saved/21PI
or 270º...
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Cutting corners is my guess.
Plus, I'm pretty sure that enthusiasts will just do watercool it.
Depends on how you measure it.
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