Hey guys/girls. I see Speccy being used frequently, so I tried it out and I'm getting a problem. It says I have 3.0 gigabytes of RAM. Which is incorrect.
But Crucial is telling me I have 2.5. Which is right. Note how it says I should upgrade to 4GB.
My System Panel confirms I have 2.5 GB in. However, this leads to an issue, detailed below.
But my System panel is saying I have 2.5 GB. Which is, of course, correct. However, it only ever recognizes 2.5 GB; even when I put in more. The other day, I had 3.5 GB in by removing two 512MB cards and putting in two 1 GB cards. However, BIOS and the System panel still only recognized 2.5 GB, saying I had 1.87 GB usable! (I'm not too sure about the whole 1.87 GB usable, why does it say that when I have 2.5 in? Is it being reserved for something?) I would think that it only recognizes 2.5 GB at any time because that's all it can support, but look at this report from Crucial.
It suggests I upgrade to 4.0 GB, but it says I can only support 3 or 3.5? How do I determine which amount I can support? My system only recognizes 2.5GB, but that can't be right. Can someone please help me?
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A Windows 32bit OS can only support up to 4GB of ram vram and rom and I think HD cache is counted.
Windows will also reserve ram for your GPU and other hardware.
Open Control panel go to admin tools and hit resource monitor.
Hit physical memory
It should say the total and you should see some amount reserved for hardware.
Holy hell that 80C. Da fuq system is that, if that is true it wont last much longer at those temps.
And you have a 32bit OS. Tech limit is 3.2GB, or tbh 2.5GB is about right. Because hardware, and graphics card will yank some memory from system for its own usage.
And you have a 32bit OS. Tech limit is 3.2GB, or tbh 2.5GB is about right. Because hardware, and graphics card will yank some memory from system for its own usage.
Actually the 32bit limit is in the 256 TB range but Microsoft limits the memory for stability reasons.
The Linux kernel can do 64GB under 32bit.
Okay, so, this makes a little more sense. The Nvidia card uses 256mb in RAM, which is counted along with the 2.5 I have in there, right?
Okay. If this is the problem, then can I upgrade the RAM, at all? If the limit is 3.5GB, technically 3.2GB available since some is reserved, shouldn't I be able to take two 521mb cards out and put in two 1GB cards? Or would it not recognize it since the Nvidia card uses 256mb, putting me over the edge or something?
Sorry, I just have so many questions.
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Okay, so, this makes a little more sense. The Nvidia card uses 256mb in RAM, which is counted along with the 2.5 I have in there, right?
Okay. If this is the problem, then can I upgrade the RAM, at all? If the limit is 3.5GB, technically 3.2GB available since some is reserved, shouldn't I be able to take two 521mb cards out and put in two 1GB cards? Or would it not recognize it since the Nvidia card uses 256mb, putting me over the edge or something?
Sorry, I just have so many questions.
Sure you can update the ram but you should probably go get a 64bit Os.
But you are running a Pentium 4 its not worth upgrading the ram the next upgrade you should look for should be a new computer.
Okay, so, this makes a little more sense. The Nvidia card uses 256mb in RAM, which is counted along with the 2.5 I have in there, right?
Okay. If this is the problem, then can I upgrade the RAM, at all? If the limit is 3.5GB, technically 3.2GB available since some is reserved, shouldn't I be able to take two 521mb cards out and put in two 1GB cards? Or would it not recognize it since the Nvidia card uses 256mb, putting me over the edge or something?
Actually the 32bit limit is in the 256 TB range but Microsoft limits the memory for stability reasons.
The Linux kernel can do 64GB under 32bit.
Right. However I did have 32 bit Ultimate before I had more then 4GB Ram. So I know the amount it will throw at ya. 3.5 GB is most yes, but in this case 3.2 is possible due to hardware or something else. Lastly, its all up to the motherboard.
I may have two 1 GB sticks laying around, actually. I'm now wondering if it's possible to put them in.
But wait, since Nvidia takes 256mb, does that count against the amount I can have in there? Such as, if I put in three 1GB sticks and one 512mb stick (making it 3.5GB), would it fail to recognize a 1GB stick since Nvidia counts as 256mb, sending me back down to 2.5GB and thus explaining why even after I upgraded the RAM it still said 2.5GB?
I am grasping at straws here, but I'd really like to know why it didn't work when I tried to upgrade. 2.5GB can't be the limit in a 32bit OS, can it?
Right. However I did have 32 bit Ultimate before I had more then 4GB Ram. So I know the amount it will throw at ya. 3.5 GB is most yes, but in this case 3.2 is possible due to hardware or something else. Lastly, its all up to the motherboard.
It wouldn't recognize 3.5, though. I don't understand why, it only recognized 2.5GB even when I had 3.5 GB in there. It was the correct RAM too, yes.
I may have two 1 GB sticks laying around, actually. I'm now wondering if it's possible to put them in.
But wait, since Nvidia takes 256mb, does that count against the amount I can have in there? Such as, if I put in three 1GB sticks and one 512mb stick (making it 3.5GB), would it fail to recognize a 1GB stick since Nvidia counts as 256mb, sending me back down to 2.5GB and thus explaining why even after I upgraded the RAM it still said 2.5GB?
I am grasping at straws here, but I'd really like to know why it didn't work when I tried to upgrade. 2.5GB can't be the limit in a 32bit OS, can it?
I believe the problem here is that you are trying to run a 1GB stick and a 512MB stick together in dual-channel configuration. This won't work because you have to run RAM in pairs. So if you want 3GB you would have to get two 1GB sticks and two 512MB sticks. It won't work if you try to pair a 1GB stick and a 512MB stick together. You also need to make sure that each pair of RAM is also using the same color slot. So if you have two blue slots and two white slots you should have one pair in the blue slots and one pair in the white slots.
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I believe the problem here is that you are trying to run a 1GB stick and a 512MB stick together in dual-channel configuration. This won't work because you have to run RAM in pairs. So if you want 3GB you would have to get two 1GB sticks and two 512MB sticks. It won't work if you try to pair a 1GB stick and a 512MB stick together. You also need to make sure that each pair of RAM is also using the same color slot. So if you have two blue slots and two white slots you should have one pair in the blue slots and one pair in the white slots.
Huh. This was very helpful, especially for future reference. However, I'm doing that right now, I thought. I have in a 1GB stick, and three 512mb sticks. Is the 1GB stick not paired with a 512mb stick? You said they have to run in pairs, but it's working right now as I do this? o:
Edit: I'm going to head off now, but I'll be on tomorrow, because I still would like to clarify a few more things. Thank you guys so much for the help you've given!
But Crucial is telling me I have 2.5. Which is right. Note how it says I should upgrade to 4GB.
My System Panel confirms I have 2.5 GB in. However, this leads to an issue, detailed below.
But my System panel is saying I have 2.5 GB. Which is, of course, correct. However, it only ever recognizes 2.5 GB; even when I put in more. The other day, I had 3.5 GB in by removing two 512MB cards and putting in two 1 GB cards. However, BIOS and the System panel still only recognized 2.5 GB, saying I had 1.87 GB usable! (I'm not too sure about the whole 1.87 GB usable, why does it say that when I have 2.5 in? Is it being reserved for something?) I would think that it only recognizes 2.5 GB at any time because that's all it can support, but look at this report from Crucial.
It suggests I upgrade to 4.0 GB, but it says I can only support 3 or 3.5? How do I determine which amount I can support? My system only recognizes 2.5GB, but that can't be right. Can someone please help me?
And we might break up if I don't wake up to the sun.
Edit: And I was told a 32 bit OS can do up to 4GB. Is this not true at all, or is it different in this case, or...?
And we might break up if I don't wake up to the sun.
Windows will also reserve ram for your GPU and other hardware.
Open Control panel go to admin tools and hit resource monitor.
Hit physical memory
It should say the total and you should see some amount reserved for hardware.
And you have a 32bit OS. Tech limit is 3.2GB, or tbh 2.5GB is about right. Because hardware, and graphics card will yank some memory from system for its own usage.
If your talking about this picture:
Thats just an example of how you could configure it.
Actually the 32bit limit is in the 256 TB range but Microsoft limits the memory for stability reasons.
The Linux kernel can do 64GB under 32bit.
Okay. If this is the problem, then can I upgrade the RAM, at all? If the limit is 3.5GB, technically 3.2GB available since some is reserved, shouldn't I be able to take two 521mb cards out and put in two 1GB cards? Or would it not recognize it since the Nvidia card uses 256mb, putting me over the edge or something?
Sorry, I just have so many questions.
And we might break up if I don't wake up to the sun.
Sure you can update the ram but you should probably go get a 64bit Os.
But you are running a Pentium 4 its not worth upgrading the ram the next upgrade you should look for should be a new computer.
The cost isnt worth the performance boost at all.
Right. However I did have 32 bit Ultimate before I had more then 4GB Ram. So I know the amount it will throw at ya. 3.5 GB is most yes, but in this case 3.2 is possible due to hardware or something else. Lastly, its all up to the motherboard.
I may have two 1 GB sticks laying around, actually. I'm now wondering if it's possible to put them in.
But wait, since Nvidia takes 256mb, does that count against the amount I can have in there? Such as, if I put in three 1GB sticks and one 512mb stick (making it 3.5GB), would it fail to recognize a 1GB stick since Nvidia counts as 256mb, sending me back down to 2.5GB and thus explaining why even after I upgraded the RAM it still said 2.5GB?
I am grasping at straws here, but I'd really like to know why it didn't work when I tried to upgrade. 2.5GB can't be the limit in a 32bit OS, can it?
It wouldn't recognize 3.5, though. I don't understand why, it only recognized 2.5GB even when I had 3.5 GB in there. It was the correct RAM too, yes.
And we might break up if I don't wake up to the sun.
I believe the problem here is that you are trying to run a 1GB stick and a 512MB stick together in dual-channel configuration. This won't work because you have to run RAM in pairs. So if you want 3GB you would have to get two 1GB sticks and two 512MB sticks. It won't work if you try to pair a 1GB stick and a 512MB stick together. You also need to make sure that each pair of RAM is also using the same color slot. So if you have two blue slots and two white slots you should have one pair in the blue slots and one pair in the white slots.
Huh. This was very helpful, especially for future reference. However, I'm doing that right now, I thought. I have in a 1GB stick, and three 512mb sticks. Is the 1GB stick not paired with a 512mb stick? You said they have to run in pairs, but it's working right now as I do this? o:
Edit: I'm going to head off now, but I'll be on tomorrow, because I still would like to clarify a few more things. Thank you guys so much for the help you've given!
And we might break up if I don't wake up to the sun.