Okay, so the computer is 100% compatible. If I could travel back in time and change anything, what would you say i change? I really just want this info for future reference. I've been learning how to do this kind of thing rapidly thanks to you guys.
it will all work, but I generally would get a better motherboard. It is tempting to cheap out on the motherboard in favor of getting a better cpu or gpu, but it can cause some annoying problems, especially during setup.
You will probably be ok, and it will work out fine, but you also have risked receiving a DOA board or getting a board that dies prematurely.
it will all work, but I generally would get a better motherboard. It is tempting to cheap out on the motherboard in favor of getting a better cpu or gpu, but it can cause some annoying problems, especially during setup.
You will probably be ok, and it will work out fine, but you also have risked receiving a DOA board or getting a board that dies prematurely.
Well, the budget was $1000 and we barely scraped by as it is. However I am very excited to head over to his house tomorrow and put it together. I tried to explain this earlier, but my piece of crap, laggy, tiny-ass-keyboard cellphone is a ***** to type on. Tomorrow morning (10 or 11-ish CST) I will head over to his house and start building the machine. We don't have the OS yet, so I'm just going to put it together and see if we get into the BIOS. If that works, we'll high-five and say "Job well done!" and then wait until he gets Windows, at which point we will continue and install these programs:
Windows itself
MS Office (his dad got professional plus for him cheap off his job)
Microsoft Security Essentials and Malwarebytes
Minecraft, of course!
Steam
Skype
Google Chrome
and then we'll sing the "We Did It!" song from Dora and my friend will think I'm so cute he'll want to eat me up...er, well, not exactly, but you get the idea. (In retrospect, if that was a reality, we'd have to be pretty gay.)
I'll post some pictures throughout the process, here's some things you can expect:
The parts (mostly) in their boxes - he might have taken a couple parts out of the boxes already, or at least opened it. He hooked up his monitor to his crappy-ass laptop for the time being.
The parts all laid out on the floor, with their baggies of cables and screws next to them.
Periodic snapshots of our progress.
A video showing the first boot. If it fails, we'll troubleshoot, look up the beep codes, and if it's easily fixable, film each bootup until we get it right. Otherwise, though, we might have some other issues.
Well, not a 100% success, but we're troubleshooting more tomorrow. Read the OP!
Well it was a good first try. Don't worry though, when I transferred my parts to a new case it didn't start up either on the first try. One of my cables was bad and whenever I plugged it into the power supply it wouldn't turn on. Used a different power cable, problem solved.
Also, one of these comes in real handy for plugging in all those switch connectors.
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Well, not a 100% success, but we're troubleshooting more tomorrow. Read the OP!
You most likely didn't pug the power button in right. Just read the manual that came with the motherboard closely.
if you can't get it to work you can always start it without the case button, to verify that the problem is with the power button. If you're lucky your motherboard might have its own power button on it (though most lower end models don't. Otherwise, you need to find the right pins and jump them (google a tutorial if you need to).
There's a little arrow on all of the little plugs. Does that mean the positive hole, or the negative hole?
Also, the power LED plug had three holes, and there were only two left on the 1st plate of LED's, and it wasn't on the edge so it couldn't hang off. The other plate (which apparently was not compliant to some intel standards or something) had two ports available on the side, so I just had it hanging off. Probably wrong, but the power button didn't work. The speaker that came with the case(?) had a 4-pin, and only the second one had 4 pins.
There's a little arrow on all of the little plugs. Does that mean the positive hole, or the negative hole?
Also, the power LED plug had three holes, and there were only two left on the 1st plate of LED's, and it wasn't on the edge so it couldn't hang off. The other plate (which apparently was not compliant to some intel standards or something) had two ports available on the side, so I just had it hanging off. Probably wrong, but the power button didn't work. The speaker that came with the case(?) had a 4-pin, and only the second one had 4 pins.
...is it normal for the case to come with that?
yea your wiring is a bit off. The plugs aren't defined by the horizontal plastic strips like you would think...
The three pin LED plug goes on pins 1, 3, and 5. the plug should be labeled so oyu know what direction to put it in, but if not generally the odd colored wire going into the plug connects to the ground (or -)
so then the four pin speaker goes from 2 to 8 as well. Your power button probably isn't working because you have it from 8 to 7 or from 6 to 5, when it should be on pins 8 and 6. The reset should be on 7 and 5, the hdd LED on 1 and 3, and the power LED on 4 and 2.
You shouldn't have anything hanging off then and it should work just fine
yea your wiring is a bit off. The plugs aren't defined by the horizontal plastic strips like you would think...
The three pin LED plug goes on pins 1, 3, and 5. the plug should be labeled so oyu know what direction to put it in, but if not generally the odd colored wire going into the plug connects to the ground (or -)
so then the four pin speaker goes from 2 to 8 as well. Your power button probably isn't working because you have it from 8 to 7 or from 6 to 5, when it should be on pins 8 and 6. The reset should be on 7 and 5, the hdd LED on 1 and 3, and the power LED on 4 and 2.
You shouldn't have anything hanging off then and it should work just fine
All of the connectors had a little arrow on them. Which should that plug into, considering the plugs go in both ways.
1. was that scraping noise when lowering the metal arm on the CPU normal?
2. I placed the two RAM sticks in both the blue slots. Should I move them?
3. I believe I found the speaker inside the case when I opened it for the first time. Why doesn't that come with the motherboard?
4. If i can't get the pins working, it's pins 6 and 8 on JFP1 I short, right? Just take a flathead screwdriver and briefly touch it to the two of them? If I accidentally short another pin, will anything happen?
5. I do have other PSU cables, so i can try different ones if I need to.
6. I have the PSU plugged into these devices:
24-pin mobo slot
4-pin CPU power slot
The graphics card (one plug, couldn't find another - i know some gpu's have two plugs)
Both the disc drive and the HDD
The fan that comes with the case goes into to the motherboard I plugged it into a SYSFAN port.
Am I missing any power cables?
EDIT: try and answer ALL of my questions in one post, just so I know I have everything right.
1. probably just the metal hinge was slightly off or something. As long as the cpu was placed properly and the heatsink is on good its really not worth it to try and reset it imo.
2. not sure about colors, but you should put on in the slot closest to the cpu and then skip a slot and put the other one in the third slot. (they are always in same-colored slots)
3. not sure, but thats the way its done
4. yea that should work, and you aren't gonna hurt anything else.
5. yep, that's perfectly normal.
6. yea that should be all of it. if there was a second plug on the gpu it would be directly next to the first, so if you don't see it its not there.
1. probably just the metal hinge was slightly off or something. As long as the cpu was placed properly and the heatsink is on good its really not worth it to try and reset it imo.
2. not sure about colors, but you should put on in the slot closest to the cpu and then skip a slot and put the other one in the third slot. (they are always in same-colored slots)
3. not sure, but thats the way its done
4. yea that should work, and you aren't gonna hurt anything else.
5. yep, that's perfectly normal.
6. yea that should be all of it. if there was a second plug on the gpu it would be directly next to the first, so if you don't see it its not there.
Ah, good. So, I understand how everything fits in now. Once I fix that, let's just hope i didn't scrape anything important off the CPU. About twice we dropped screws into the puter, and used the magnetic screwdriver to fish them out. I do know hard drives don't like magnets, but it wasn't anywhere near that. Should be fine, right?
I'll fix the pins, and film it booting again. If we get any beep codes, I'll do an EPIC FACEPALM. If it's a single-beep and we get into the bios, BROFIST!!!Oh, forgot to ask. My dad said that even if it was on the wrong pins, the fans should at least turn on. That sounds like B.S. to me, but is he just being stupid or is he actually right? None of the fans turned on, for the record.
*He uses IE, likes AMD over intel, doesn't trust Firefox and thinks Chrome is a scam/Google is evil
I never go to him for advice anymore, now I *try* to give him advice.
no, if the computer wasn't on the fans wouldn't have spun...
Good.
Oh, also, there was a rainboy cable that went into the HD Audio port. that was pretty easy to plug in and find, but there's also another cable on the same rainbowy wire that I have no idea what it does (don't remember what it says). Nothing I remember seeing that could have went into.
Oh, also, there was a rainboy cable that went into the HD Audio port. that was pretty easy to plug in and find, but there's also another cable on the same rainbowy wire that I have no idea what it does (don't remember what it says). Nothing I remember seeing that could have went into.
That other cable is for AC 97 audio which you don't need. Just stuff it somewhere or let it just hang there. HD audio is the standard nowadays and it makes me mad that the audio connector still includes an AC 97 plug that can't be removed.
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That other cable is for AC 97 audio which you don't need. Just stuff it somewhere or let it just hang there. HD audio is the standard nowadays and it makes me mad that the audio connector still includes an AC 97 plug that can't be removed.
Okay, tomorrow morning my friend will actually bring the computer to MY house, along with all the spare parts and manuals. Before I let my dad do anything, I'm going to do THIS...
The three pin LED plug goes on pins 1, 3, and 5. the plug should be labeled so oyu know what direction to put it in, but if not generally the odd colored wire going into the plug connects to the ground (or -)
so then the four pin speaker goes from 2 to 8 as well. Your power button probably isn't working because you have it from 8 to 7 or from 6 to 5, when it should be on pins 8 and 6. The reset should be on 7 and 5, the hdd LED on 1 and 3, and the power LED on 4 and 2.
And then film it booting again. Look forward to the results of that tomorrow!
it will all work, but I generally would get a better motherboard. It is tempting to cheap out on the motherboard in favor of getting a better cpu or gpu, but it can cause some annoying problems, especially during setup.
You will probably be ok, and it will work out fine, but you also have risked receiving a DOA board or getting a board that dies prematurely.
Well, the budget was $1000 and we barely scraped by as it is. However I am very excited to head over to his house tomorrow and put it together. I tried to explain this earlier, but my piece of crap, laggy, tiny-ass-keyboard cellphone is a ***** to type on. Tomorrow morning (10 or 11-ish CST) I will head over to his house and start building the machine. We don't have the OS yet, so I'm just going to put it together and see if we get into the BIOS. If that works, we'll high-five and say "Job well done!" and then wait until he gets Windows, at which point we will continue and install these programs:
Windows itself
MS Office (his dad got professional plus for him cheap off his job)
Microsoft Security Essentials and Malwarebytes
Minecraft, of course!
Steam
Skype
Google Chrome
and then we'll sing the "We Did It!" song from Dora and my friend will think I'm so cute he'll want to eat me up...er, well, not exactly, but you get the idea. (In retrospect, if that was a reality, we'd have to be pretty gay.)
I'll post some pictures throughout the process, here's some things you can expect:
The parts (mostly) in their boxes - he might have taken a couple parts out of the boxes already, or at least opened it. He hooked up his monitor to his crappy-ass laptop for the time being.
The parts all laid out on the floor, with their baggies of cables and screws next to them.
Periodic snapshots of our progress.
A video showing the first boot. If it fails, we'll troubleshoot, look up the beep codes, and if it's easily fixable, film each bootup until we get it right. Otherwise, though, we might have some other issues.
Well it was a good first try. Don't worry though, when I transferred my parts to a new case it didn't start up either on the first try. One of my cables was bad and whenever I plugged it into the power supply it wouldn't turn on. Used a different power cable, problem solved.
Also, one of these comes in real handy for plugging in all those switch connectors.
You most likely didn't pug the power button in right. Just read the manual that came with the motherboard closely.
if you can't get it to work you can always start it without the case button, to verify that the problem is with the power button. If you're lucky your motherboard might have its own power button on it (though most lower end models don't. Otherwise, you need to find the right pins and jump them (google a tutorial if you need to).
Also, the power LED plug had three holes, and there were only two left on the 1st plate of LED's, and it wasn't on the edge so it couldn't hang off. The other plate (which apparently was not compliant to some intel standards or something) had two ports available on the side, so I just had it hanging off. Probably wrong, but the power button didn't work. The speaker that came with the case(?) had a 4-pin, and only the second one had 4 pins.
...is it normal for the case to come with that?
yea your wiring is a bit off. The plugs aren't defined by the horizontal plastic strips like you would think...
The three pin LED plug goes on pins 1, 3, and 5. the plug should be labeled so oyu know what direction to put it in, but if not generally the odd colored wire going into the plug connects to the ground (or -)
so then the four pin speaker goes from 2 to 8 as well. Your power button probably isn't working because you have it from 8 to 7 or from 6 to 5, when it should be on pins 8 and 6. The reset should be on 7 and 5, the hdd LED on 1 and 3, and the power LED on 4 and 2.
You shouldn't have anything hanging off then and it should work just fine
All of the connectors had a little arrow on them. Which should that plug into, considering the plugs go in both ways.
Edit: the arrow is + too.
1. was that scraping noise when lowering the metal arm on the CPU normal?
2. I placed the two RAM sticks in both the blue slots. Should I move them?
3. I believe I found the speaker inside the case when I opened it for the first time. Why doesn't that come with the motherboard?
4. If i can't get the pins working, it's pins 6 and 8 on JFP1 I short, right? Just take a flathead screwdriver and briefly touch it to the two of them? If I accidentally short another pin, will anything happen?
5. I do have other PSU cables, so i can try different ones if I need to.
6. I have the PSU plugged into these devices:
24-pin mobo slot
4-pin CPU power slot
The graphics card (one plug, couldn't find another - i know some gpu's have two plugs)
Both the disc drive and the HDD
The fan that comes with the case goes into to the motherboard I plugged it into a SYSFAN port.
Am I missing any power cables?
EDIT: try and answer ALL of my questions in one post, just so I know I have everything right.
2. not sure about colors, but you should put on in the slot closest to the cpu and then skip a slot and put the other one in the third slot. (they are always in same-colored slots)
3. not sure, but thats the way its done
4. yea that should work, and you aren't gonna hurt anything else.
5. yep, that's perfectly normal.
6. yea that should be all of it. if there was a second plug on the gpu it would be directly next to the first, so if you don't see it its not there.
Ah, good. So, I understand how everything fits in now. Once I fix that, let's just hope i didn't scrape anything important off the CPU. About twice we dropped screws into the puter, and used the magnetic screwdriver to fish them out. I do know hard drives don't like magnets, but it wasn't anywhere near that. Should be fine, right?
I'll fix the pins, and film it booting again. If we get any beep codes, I'll do an EPIC FACEPALM. If it's a single-beep and we get into the bios, BROFIST!!!Oh, forgot to ask. My dad said that even if it was on the wrong pins, the fans should at least turn on. That sounds like B.S. to me, but is he just being stupid or is he actually right? None of the fans turned on, for the record.
*He uses IE, likes AMD over intel, doesn't trust Firefox and thinks Chrome is a scam/Google is evil
I never go to him for advice anymore, now I *try* to give him advice.
Good.
Oh, also, there was a rainboy cable that went into the HD Audio port. that was pretty easy to plug in and find, but there's also another cable on the same rainbowy wire that I have no idea what it does (don't remember what it says). Nothing I remember seeing that could have went into.
That other cable is for AC 97 audio which you don't need. Just stuff it somewhere or let it just hang there. HD audio is the standard nowadays and it makes me mad that the audio connector still includes an AC 97 plug that can't be removed.
Okay, tomorrow morning my friend will actually bring the computer to MY house, along with all the spare parts and manuals. Before I let my dad do anything, I'm going to do THIS...
And then film it booting again. Look forward to the results of that tomorrow!
I'm a bit worried I ballsified something else, but let's take this one step at a time.
Just wait thirty minutes or so and I'll have the results.
EDIT: Oh crap, triple post. SORRY, DIDN'T REALIZE!