[I think] It stands for Hybrid-Hard Disk Drive. Basically, its a hard-disk drive and a solid-state drive in the same computer. No... Casing? I have no idea what its called. But what I do know...
A) The convenience of a hard-disk drive and a solid-state in one simple casing.
:cool.gif: Useful when you only have one hard-drive port. (SATA, I believe.)
Basically. I want to purchase one, but I can't seem to find a good one. I searched places like Newegg, I Googled, but there were no particularly good ones. (500GB hard-disk, 4GB solid-state.)
However, I want to get a new laptop, and because...
A) Pure solid-state drives at high capacities are too expensive (I want around 500GB, that's my current and it's fine, but too expensive)
:cool.gif: HDDs feel too slow to me... (I'm a perfectionist... I need the best performance I can find! :biggrin.gif:)
C) Laptops, typically, and in my model, only support one hard-drive. But I want the mixture, as stated before...
D) The supplier SSD prices are frickin' overpriced... (I can't find them when I customize it, or it costs almost as much or more than the base laptop did.
I was just wondering, where are some good Hybrids? Also, a question about them...
Do I select what files go on what drive, or is that an automatic thing? I heard it was automatic.
I would prefer something around the 500GB range, with a fair solid-state. Throw them at me, regardless of price. :biggrin.gif: (Because that seems to me that it makes me seem lazy, I am looking for drives myself. As well as finding out compatibility.(The hard-drives size, casing, that stuff...))
I will post those requirements for.. Fitting? I dunno. I'm pretty sure there are certain compatibility things with attaching them and size. I'll get back with that...
I don't know where you would source one, but I can answer one question you have:
You don't get to see 2 drives, so you can't select which files go where. The drive itself decides what files to keep in flash and what files go to the HD. Most often accessed files will be held on the faster flash portion of the drive.
I don't think the idea is going to catch on, as these hybrid drives are almost obsolete before they have a chance to become popular. They're perfect for laptop owners who want the speed of an SSD but the mass storage value of a traditional HD, but most laptop buyers don't really care. They generally just like the "bigger gigabytes".
Oh.
Damn.
Well, thanks.
I did find one, but it only had a 500GB model and a maximum.. 4GB SSD.
Hm. I would get a desktop but I'm rarely, like, at home... That's why a laptop is good... And stuff... :sad.gif:
Is there by chance a laptop with support for two hard drives?
If you don't mind a heavy, large laptop, see if you can source a second-hand Dell M1730. They can take 2 drives and are very good gaming machines as well. They look a bit in-your-face-bling but performance is great,
and they also are quite a bit overpriced for their looks.
Why do you not want a Hybrid HDD anymore, just because you can't use both drives separately? You only "lose" like 4GB, in that respect...
You still get the performance boost of having a Solid State, while also having the capacity of an HDD.
There are a couple of issues with H-HDDs, like inability to restore data if your drive fails (and you can't guarantee that when a regular drive fails, anyway)... also a little less 'lifetime' because the HDD part uses up more spin-ups than a typical HDD... but if you're already wanting a new Laptop, then I doubt you'll be worried about either of those things.
But Hybrid HDDs aren't exactly what you thought they were. They are not 2-drives-in-1.
They are regular HDD's that use their own dedicated "RAM". This RAM is actually a 'small' Solid State drive in most of the newer models. This benefits the HDD by allowing it the speeds of a Solid State drive for often-accessed data, but it can backup data to an HDD once the RAM is full. As well, the RAM is solid state, so turning off your computer doesn't cause it to lose data... so your OS will be run on the Solid State, giving it the full performance speed of a solid state drive.
It's got a couple of Cons, and a lot of pros... If you only have 1 drive, and need a performance boost, I think your money might be spent well on an H-HDD... that is, if you aren't looking to already buy another laptop. (Although, you could still use the H-HDD if you did buy a new one... another pro).
Why do you not want a Hybrid HDD anymore, just because you can't use both drives separately? You only "lose" like 4GB, in that respect...
You still get the performance boost of having a Solid State, while also having the capacity of an HDD.
There are a couple of issues with H-HDDs, like inability to restore data if your drive fails (and you can't guarantee that when a regular drive fails, anyway)... also a little less 'lifetime' because the HDD part uses up more spin-ups than a typical HDD... but if you're already wanting a new Laptop, then I doubt you'll be worried about either of those things.
But Hybrid HDDs aren't exactly what you thought they were. They are not 2-drives-in-1.
They are regular HDD's that use their own dedicated "RAM". This RAM is actually a 'small' Solid State drive in most of the newer models. This benefits the HDD by allowing it the speeds of a Solid State drive for often-accessed data, but it can backup data to an HDD once the RAM is full. As well, the RAM is solid state, so turning off your computer doesn't cause it to lose data... so your OS will be run on the Solid State, giving it the full performance speed of a solid state drive.
It's got a couple of Cons, and a lot of pros... If you only have 1 drive, and need a performance boost, I think your money might be spent well on an H-HDD... that is, if you aren't looking to already buy another laptop. (Although, you could still use the H-HDD if you did buy a new one... another pro).
Well, yeah... See, this is why I ask about these things first. :biggrin.gif:
Okay. Thanks for clearing that up then!
Btw, the laptop isn't mine yet. I'm thinking of just taking this old Alienware my dad has (From the Glory days of Alienware, of course...) and sprucing it up. I did want to build my own computer, and since I would have to replace the PSU, (It fried when I recently tried to start it up... The heck...) and god knows what else, (ATI FireGL 7900. Thats terrible, but back in the day it was godly. (This stuff is all from like, 2002. Or something.)) I might as well just use that. It's easier than buying a new cooling system, plus the everything else... It already has:
3xFans, that work pretty well I guess. It's not too hot a computer.
Quad-Core Intel 3.4Ghz (Direct model unknown)
2GB DDR3 RAM, unknown Mhz
4x75GB HDDs
Soundcard
Motherboard, which would consume me the most...
2 or 3 PCI ports...
Alright, irregardless of its flaws, with a not-so-simple PSU replacement, a new Nvidia GTX 500 series, (I dunno yet.) and some disk-defrag/OS upgrade... (I dunno, man. Windows XP is nice, but I think I'd like some more modern OS, in addition to XP.)
Basically, minor upgrades.
@HonestFlames
A Velociraptor? Oh, sounds vicious! :biggrin.gif:
EDIT: Wow. Thats a lot of spinning going on.
Although, A) wouldn't this generate a lot of heat? :cool.gif: whats the actual read/write? Comparing it to an SSD requires actual read/writes, and also, I dunno if it would it in the laptop.
Velociraptors come in 2.5" and 3.5" versions. They don't run enormously hot at all, so there's no issues with cooling. Throughput is obviously fairly good but seek times are much reduced compared to regular 7200RPM drives.
Performance on random seeks falls far short of what an SSD can achieve, but it fills a little gap in the price/performance/capacity stakes.
People are fond of sitting two 'raptors in a RAID0 stripe for extra performance. 600GB of very fast storage for only ~£220 is fairly attractive.
[I think] It stands for Hybrid-Hard Disk Drive. Basically, its a hard-disk drive and a solid-state drive in the same computer. No... Casing? I have no idea what its called. But what I do know...
A) The convenience of a hard-disk drive and a solid-state in one simple casing.
:cool.gif: Useful when you only have one hard-drive port. (SATA, I believe.)
Basically. I want to purchase one, but I can't seem to find a good one. I searched places like Newegg, I Googled, but there were no particularly good ones. (500GB hard-disk, 4GB solid-state.)
However, I want to get a new laptop, and because...
A) Pure solid-state drives at high capacities are too expensive (I want around 500GB, that's my current and it's fine, but too expensive)
:cool.gif: HDDs feel too slow to me... (I'm a perfectionist... I need the best performance I can find! :biggrin.gif:)
C) Laptops, typically, and in my model, only support one hard-drive. But I want the mixture, as stated before...
D) The supplier SSD prices are frickin' overpriced... (I can't find them when I customize it, or it costs almost as much or more than the base laptop did.
I was just wondering, where are some good Hybrids? Also, a question about them...
Do I select what files go on what drive, or is that an automatic thing? I heard it was automatic.
I would prefer something around the 500GB range, with a fair solid-state. Throw them at me, regardless of price. :biggrin.gif: (Because that seems to me that it makes me seem lazy, I am looking for drives myself. As well as finding out compatibility.(The hard-drives size, casing, that stuff...))
I will post those requirements for.. Fitting? I dunno. I'm pretty sure there are certain compatibility things with attaching them and size. I'll get back with that...
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Oh.
Damn.
Well, thanks.
I did find one, but it only had a 500GB model and a maximum.. 4GB SSD.
Hm. I would get a desktop but I'm rarely, like, at home... That's why a laptop is good... And stuff... :sad.gif:
Is there by chance a laptop with support for two hard drives?
I'm wrote a story. You should read it.
100 Days to Mine
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Vagrants of the Mine
Finished that? Check the next one,
Resurrection of the Mine
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and they also are quite a bit overpriced for their looks.
You still get the performance boost of having a Solid State, while also having the capacity of an HDD.
There are a couple of issues with H-HDDs, like inability to restore data if your drive fails (and you can't guarantee that when a regular drive fails, anyway)... also a little less 'lifetime' because the HDD part uses up more spin-ups than a typical HDD... but if you're already wanting a new Laptop, then I doubt you'll be worried about either of those things.
But Hybrid HDDs aren't exactly what you thought they were. They are not 2-drives-in-1.
They are regular HDD's that use their own dedicated "RAM". This RAM is actually a 'small' Solid State drive in most of the newer models. This benefits the HDD by allowing it the speeds of a Solid State drive for often-accessed data, but it can backup data to an HDD once the RAM is full. As well, the RAM is solid state, so turning off your computer doesn't cause it to lose data... so your OS will be run on the Solid State, giving it the full performance speed of a solid state drive.
It's got a couple of Cons, and a lot of pros... If you only have 1 drive, and need a performance boost, I think your money might be spent well on an H-HDD... that is, if you aren't looking to already buy another laptop. (Although, you could still use the H-HDD if you did buy a new one... another pro).
Well, yeah... See, this is why I ask about these things first. :biggrin.gif:
Okay. Thanks for clearing that up then!
Btw, the laptop isn't mine yet. I'm thinking of just taking this old Alienware my dad has (From the Glory days of Alienware, of course...) and sprucing it up. I did want to build my own computer, and since I would have to replace the PSU, (It fried when I recently tried to start it up... The heck...) and god knows what else, (ATI FireGL 7900. Thats terrible, but back in the day it was godly. (This stuff is all from like, 2002. Or something.)) I might as well just use that. It's easier than buying a new cooling system, plus the everything else... It already has:
3xFans, that work pretty well I guess. It's not too hot a computer.
Quad-Core Intel 3.4Ghz (Direct model unknown)
2GB DDR3 RAM, unknown Mhz
4x75GB HDDs
Soundcard
Motherboard, which would consume me the most...
2 or 3 PCI ports...
Alright, irregardless of its flaws, with a not-so-simple PSU replacement, a new Nvidia GTX 500 series, (I dunno yet.) and some disk-defrag/OS upgrade... (I dunno, man. Windows XP is nice, but I think I'd like some more modern OS, in addition to XP.)
Basically, minor upgrades.
@HonestFlames
A Velociraptor? Oh, sounds vicious! :biggrin.gif:
EDIT: Wow. Thats a lot of spinning going on.
Although, A) wouldn't this generate a lot of heat? :cool.gif: whats the actual read/write? Comparing it to an SSD requires actual read/writes, and also, I dunno if it would it in the laptop.
I'm wrote a story. You should read it.
100 Days to Mine
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Vagrants of the Mine
Finished that? Check the next one,
Resurrection of the Mine
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Definitely.
I'm wrote a story. You should read it.
100 Days to Mine
Already read it? Try the sequel,
Vagrants of the Mine
Finished that? Check the next one,
Resurrection of the Mine
Follow me on Twitch and Twitter,
@zuned11 and Twitch/zuned11