If you have a 64-bit CPU (which they almost all are by now, haven't seen a 32-bit in quite some time) then I don't see why not to install a 64-bit version of an OS. Even if you don't use more than 4GB RAM, at least it prepares it for possible future upgrades.
And hey, guys, keep it cool, alright? No need to fight around.
Because we don't yet have quite the technology available, its more 'That's overkill' than 'we don't need it.' Its definitely true that you don't need 16,000 yhottabytes (Jesus. ._.), and on CPU, we don't really have powerful enough processors yet that we would be able to run enough programs that we would need more than 16 gb RAM at most. Unless you were doing massive, like... Crysis 2 gaming or something, we are pretty much set on terms of RAM.
And just as a qeustion for the asking, would a 35-bit (presuming it existed) OS be able to handle 32gb of ram?
How is 64-bit overkill? You don't need to have any better computer for it actually. And IMO it's time to move on from 32-bit, the limit that it can handle only up to 4Gb of ram is retarded. Soon there will be much more new games, programs etc. that will use atleast or more than 4Gb of ram. And with 64-bit OS we don't have to fear anymore that samekind of problems will be encountered soon...
The overall 4GB RAM limit isn't the constraining factor, it's the 2GB per task limit. This is why there are a lot of threads in Server Administration complaining about not being able to allocate 2GB to Minecraft servers... those people are (usually unwittingly) using the 32 bit version of Java.
I thought that 32-bit processes were 3GB limited on 64-bit systems? (Unless they are not designed)
I mean, there are exe modifications for Oblivion for example (as MODS requires a lot of RAM) to allow it to access 3GB RAM.
When he is talking about Windows not having partitions, I think he means that Windows does not have a way to make new partitions after installing. Macs do, I think.
Windows has a built in partitioner. It's pretty decent, actually.
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Because we don't yet have quite the technology available, its more 'That's overkill' than 'we don't need it.' Its definitely true that you don't need 16,000 yhottabytes (Jesus. ._.), and on CPU, we don't really have powerful enough processors yet that we would be able to run enough programs that we would need more than 16 gb RAM at most. Unless you were doing massive, like... Crysis 2 gaming or something, we are pretty much set on terms of RAM.
And just as a qeustion for the asking, would a 35-bit (presuming it existed) OS be able to handle 32gb of ram?
How is 64-bit overkill? You don't need to have any better computer for it actually. And IMO it's time to move on from 32-bit, the limit that it can handle only up to 4Gb of ram is retarded. Soon there will be much more new games, programs etc. that will use atleast or more than 4Gb of ram. And with 64-bit OS we don't have to fear anymore that samekind of problems will be encountered soon...
I find that if we do start creating more powerful programs, and we start making them need more powerful computers, we're also going to need to make better computers less expensive. Currently, most people are not willing to pay much for computers. If you look here, you get all of these guys who REALLY want a good computer, but have no more than around 1,500 dollars.
How much do you think people who just want a simple computer would be willing to pay?
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I find that if we do start creating more powerful programs, and we start making them need more powerful computers, we're also going to need to make better computers less expensive. Currently, most people are not willing to pay much for computers. If you look here, you get all of these guys who REALLY want a good computer, but have no more than around 1,500 dollars.
How much do you think people who just want a simple computer would be willing to pay?
$1,500 is PLENTY for a good computer. If you weren't drinking the Mac coolaid, you would realize this.
I find that if we do start creating more powerful programs, and we start making them need more powerful computers, we're also going to need to make better computers less expensive. Currently, most people are not willing to pay much for computers. If you look here, you get all of these guys who REALLY want a good computer, but have no more than around 1,500 dollars.
How much do you think people who just want a simple computer would be willing to pay?
$1,500 is PLENTY for a good computer. If you weren't drinking the Mac coolaid, you would realize this.
My $400 notebook can run DragonAge and Minecraft on Max View Distance and Cheap SFX.
geez with the mac hating much. I don't really see why it's such a big deal. Mac's are better for some things and Windows is better for others. I personally have a Mac, and dislike windows. But I can see that it has its place, just as Macs do. Everyone says "mac fanboys" but in reality, you hate Macs more than we hate Windows. And I agree with the racism thing. But I think it's more like religion than race. you can choose computers and you can choose religion, but you can't choose your race.
I find that if we do start creating more powerful programs, and we start making them need more powerful computers, we're also going to need to make better computers less expensive. Currently, most people are not willing to pay much for computers. If you look here, you get all of these guys who REALLY want a good computer, but have no more than around 1,500 dollars.
How much do you think people who just want a simple computer would be willing to pay?
$1,500 is PLENTY for a good computer. If you weren't drinking the Mac coolaid, you would realize this.
Tru dat. My $700 desktop (I paid for EVERYTHING, no recycled parts) can run almost any game seamlessly, and I know there are people out there who are good at searching for cheap stuff and can probably find an equivalent PC for a couple hundred dollars less. Unless you're running a freaking server or something, anything over $1000 is obsolete.
And hey, guys, keep it cool, alright? No need to fight around.
I thought that 32-bit processes were 3GB limited on 64-bit systems? (Unless they are not designed)
I mean, there are exe modifications for Oblivion for example (as MODS requires a lot of RAM) to allow it to access 3GB RAM.
Windows has a built in partitioner. It's pretty decent, actually.
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How much do you think people who just want a simple computer would be willing to pay?
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$1,500 is PLENTY for a good computer. If you weren't drinking the Mac coolaid, you would realize this.
My $400 notebook can run DragonAge and Minecraft on Max View Distance and Cheap SFX.
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Tru dat. My $700 desktop (I paid for EVERYTHING, no recycled parts) can run almost any game seamlessly, and I know there are people out there who are good at searching for cheap stuff and can probably find an equivalent PC for a couple hundred dollars less. Unless you're running a freaking server or something, anything over $1000 is obsolete.
...and that's about the only real difference you'll see.
Also..
@macguyabove: What is it MAC's are better at again?