So I've seen the flowing-water generator that kinda looks like an organ, the smaller 5Wx5Lx3H squarish generator, and a couple other generators, but none of these did all four of four objectives in my mind:
Be safe (not get injured during the normal use of the device)
Be fast (not have flopping-pick-at-nothing syndrome)
Be efficient (not just smack obsidian on the other side between blocks)
Be LAZY (sure I could use invedit, but me and mine exploit the system, we don't disobey the rules. A weighted mouse button isn't cheating :tongue.gif:)
I saw this design, but it was too interactive (not enough 'set and sit' going on).
I borrowed inspiration heavily from this design but it was also too interactive:
My boyfriend killed himself like four times using this contraption when stone formed over his head after accidentally mining out the back of the machine. Also too interactive for high output, and you only get about 1/2 of the stone actually smacked for:
Generally same problems with this one:
This one
You get the idea. So I spent a couple days experimenting and I think I've come up with the best (though not the most compact by any means) set-and-sit, can't-kill-yourself, autoloading autodelivering cobblestone generator.
All but the front can be built into another wall, this is a schematic for the fewest-materials design that is also freestanding, modify as you will. It is 5x7, and can be reduced to
Let stone represent whatever substance you use for construction.
Let the lava brick represent the places I recommend you place lava (though apparently it will work without some of them, skimp as you will)
Let cobblestone represent your product
Let water represent placed water source blocks.
Let the stick represent a ladder, recommended ingeniously by the boyf to halt water from 'wafting' you forward and backward inevitably resulting in a burned face (Absolutely requires the second ladder, I know you only have to place them every other step for climbing capability, but that isn't the purpose, just as a water/lava block. Bumping into lava does not happen anymore, but to clarify, continue to beware the 'southwest' rule regarding lava and corners as you will share a corner with lava)
This does not require or even abstractly need any obsidian. The design can be shortened by reducing the lava/product 'layers' to as short as you wish; in this case only do I recommend an obsidian as a guard against overdrilling as it would likely greatly reduce the efficiency of the device.
Top layer (only requires the first three rows, align them looking at the ladders of the generator, left justified)
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Thoughts? Suggestions? Am I not allowed to share this on the forum? I looked for other designs and did not see any, but also nothing specifically prohibiting the idea... is this a disallowed exploit?
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I go to bed every night dreaming of Scooby Doo's head shaking back and forth saying "YIPES! CREEBERZ!"
Needless to say I don't sleep much.
Seems like a plausible design. Never found a need for a cobble generator yet. Obviously I'm leery of any first time posters with 'new' or 'better' contraptions on THIS day of all days, but your post seems legit. :smile.gif:
Oh hahaha yea. Well I've been working on this for several days and only cracked the viability late last night with the ladders.
I highly recommend that you test it out aligned to the same direction you're going to be using! Maybe put the ladders on the lava side of the miner-receptacle, might help prevent SW-rule corner lava damage? I don't know.
Also something to keep in mind, you'll want to have the lava either covered or safely away from anything flammable in your house! Just a note.
*EDIT* Also one reason to check out this generator: it's stupendously efficient as far as mined-to-burned ratio. I think when the water is forced back via a new cobblestone block forming, the product goes with it, and isn't scorched like seems to be the problem with so many other designs. Either way I'm producing about 95-110 blocks from a 130 (?)-use stone pick, clinically and exhaustively tested. */EDIT*
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I go to bed every night dreaming of Scooby Doo's head shaking back and forth saying "YIPES! CREEBERZ!"
Needless to say I don't sleep much.
Seeing as your pickaxe disintegrates (without some sort of cheating), your idea of just leaving it on won't work...
However, for maximum efficiency assuming an infinite picaxe, you need to remember, if you're mining one rock, and another spawns in front of it, your progress goes back to zero. So my idea involves something like this..
Top-down
The is a button wired up to the which is an iron door. You constantly pick at all the cobblestone that formed where the lava is, until it's all gone. The last piece of lava/cobblestone allows more lava to flow and be turned into cobblestone. However, you also hit the button at the end, which closes the iron door. Using repeaters, the door stays closed just long enough for all 3 pieces of cobblestone to flow down to the door and be collected, and another 3 rocks to be generated, all while the door takes a few smacks of your pickaxe.
In other words, for the best optimization, you need to generate 3 pieces, whack at them, cause some sort of delay for those shards to come to you and the next 3 to be generated, then repeat.
I actually built an almost identical generator a few months back on the herocraft server...but flowing water and lava were having issues with each other at the time so I tore it down. Never bothered to test it in SSP to see how well it performed.
Well Saber this really is a pretty good design if I'm allowed to say so, I recommend you give it another try!
And as far as 'set and let', I'm assuming you have a series of pickaxes on a mousewheel and just delicately scroll from one to another. Maximum laziness. You can use a diamond pickaxe I suppose but..to gather something as mundane and pedant as cobblestone with it? I don't recommend.
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I go to bed every night dreaming of Scooby Doo's head shaking back and forth saying "YIPES! CREEBERZ!"
Needless to say I don't sleep much.
Lava over water is such a jerk, always strongarming the water away in my experience. Strange occurrences like that, then being flooded with lava, led to my death almost countless times while experimenting.
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I go to bed every night dreaming of Scooby Doo's head shaking back and forth saying "YIPES! CREEBERZ!"
Needless to say I don't sleep much.
This is a glorified version of the generator I use.
The water currents leading out push you three blocks away, close enough to mine the block without breaking behind it, while also bringing mined stone to you.
From bottom to top, the one I use in my single player worlds looks like
First level, would be the ground that you build the thing on:
The water is just a channel you would dig for the water to flow under the cobblestone that forms when the water and lava meet. Sit in the end of this, aim in the direction of the block to be broken, and mine. Can be used with a taped mouse button or what have you.
Second level:
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Third Level:
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Cobblestone is the block that you would break.
A bonus is that you can move this into a corner somewhere.
I just realized that the new water physics make this damn near impossible to jump out of. Just pop a pressure plate in the end of the current.
Be safe (not get injured during the normal use of the device)
Be fast (not have flopping-pick-at-nothing syndrome)
Be efficient (not just smack obsidian on the other side between blocks)
Be LAZY (sure I could use invedit, but me and mine exploit the system, we don't disobey the rules. A weighted mouse button isn't cheating :tongue.gif:)
I saw this design, but it was too interactive (not enough 'set and sit' going on).
I borrowed inspiration heavily from this design but it was also too interactive:
My boyfriend killed himself like four times using this contraption when stone formed over his head after accidentally mining out the back of the machine. Also too interactive for high output, and you only get about 1/2 of the stone actually smacked for:
Generally same problems with this one:
This one
You get the idea. So I spent a couple days experimenting and I think I've come up with the best (though not the most compact by any means) set-and-sit, can't-kill-yourself, autoloading autodelivering cobblestone generator.
All but the front can be built into another wall, this is a schematic for the fewest-materials design that is also freestanding, modify as you will. It is 5x7, and can be reduced to
Let stone represent whatever substance you use for construction.
Let the lava brick represent the places I recommend you place lava (though apparently it will work without some of them, skimp as you will)
Let cobblestone represent your product
Let water represent placed water source blocks.
Let the stick represent a ladder, recommended ingeniously by the boyf to halt water from 'wafting' you forward and backward inevitably resulting in a burned face (Absolutely requires the second ladder, I know you only have to place them every other step for climbing capability, but that isn't the purpose, just as a water/lava block. Bumping into lava does not happen anymore, but to clarify, continue to beware the 'southwest' rule regarding lava and corners as you will share a corner with lava)
This does not require or even abstractly need any obsidian. The design can be shortened by reducing the lava/product 'layers' to as short as you wish; in this case only do I recommend an obsidian as a guard against overdrilling as it would likely greatly reduce the efficiency of the device.
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Top layer (only requires the first three rows, align them looking at the ladders of the generator, left justified)
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Thoughts? Suggestions? Am I not allowed to share this on the forum? I looked for other designs and did not see any, but also nothing specifically prohibiting the idea... is this a disallowed exploit?
Needless to say I don't sleep much.
by c0yote
I tried it with terrible results. I gave my wife my glasses for a second, a creeper showed up and now my wife is pregnant.
Stupid 3D..
I highly recommend that you test it out aligned to the same direction you're going to be using! Maybe put the ladders on the lava side of the miner-receptacle, might help prevent SW-rule corner lava damage? I don't know.
Also something to keep in mind, you'll want to have the lava either covered or safely away from anything flammable in your house! Just a note.
*EDIT* Also one reason to check out this generator: it's stupendously efficient as far as mined-to-burned ratio. I think when the water is forced back via a new cobblestone block forming, the product goes with it, and isn't scorched like seems to be the problem with so many other designs. Either way I'm producing about 95-110 blocks from a 130 (?)-use stone pick, clinically and exhaustively tested. */EDIT*
Needless to say I don't sleep much.
However, for maximum efficiency assuming an infinite picaxe, you need to remember, if you're mining one rock, and another spawns in front of it, your progress goes back to zero. So my idea involves something like this..
Top-down
The is a button wired up to the which is an iron door. You constantly pick at all the cobblestone that formed where the lava is, until it's all gone. The last piece of lava/cobblestone allows more lava to flow and be turned into cobblestone. However, you also hit the button at the end, which closes the iron door. Using repeaters, the door stays closed just long enough for all 3 pieces of cobblestone to flow down to the door and be collected, and another 3 rocks to be generated, all while the door takes a few smacks of your pickaxe.
In other words, for the best optimization, you need to generate 3 pieces, whack at them, cause some sort of delay for those shards to come to you and the next 3 to be generated, then repeat.
And as far as 'set and let', I'm assuming you have a series of pickaxes on a mousewheel and just delicately scroll from one to another. Maximum laziness. You can use a diamond pickaxe I suppose but..to gather something as mundane and pedant as cobblestone with it? I don't recommend.
Needless to say I don't sleep much.
Yeah, as you can see it wasn't going quite as planned. XD The issue has since been resolved and I might throw it back up for kicks.
Needless to say I don't sleep much.
The water currents leading out push you three blocks away, close enough to mine the block without breaking behind it, while also bringing mined stone to you.
From bottom to top, the one I use in my single player worlds looks like
First level, would be the ground that you build the thing on:
The water is just a channel you would dig for the water to flow under the cobblestone that forms when the water and lava meet. Sit in the end of this, aim in the direction of the block to be broken, and mine. Can be used with a taped mouse button or what have you.
Second level:
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Third Level:
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Cobblestone is the block that you would break.
A bonus is that you can move this into a corner somewhere.
I just realized that the new water physics make this damn near impossible to jump out of. Just pop a pressure plate in the end of the current.
Needless to say I don't sleep much.