I dont think pirating is that horrible but seriously.. Pirating minecraft?
Even if you're 10 you could just go out offering nabours to wash their cars for 2 bucks a pop..
Get off your lazy ass and freaking do something man.
The only excuse here is being lazy, or not caring.
I only pirate games that have no demos - If i like them i pay for them.
I've also decided I'm never buying a sequel again without getting a demo - Seeing as DA 2 was disappointing, and every CoD and battlefields the freaking same game with prettier graphics.
Yes, yes i am basing it all on 3 games.
Oh.. I also pirate things that are overpriced - If It's not worth the money you're asking me for, I'll wait until the price goes down or just pirate it.
Put yourself in this scenario, your neighbors live miles away, nobody has cars. Most of them hitch rides from other people; No way to make money. TRYMENOW.
and the closest gas station is 12 miles.
herp derp Ever heard of online work?
And if thats the case, why would you even have a computer with interent anyways?
Rollback Post to RevisionRollBack
You are now reading this. You just lost the game.
You have just read this. You are also manually breathing.
There is something that I want to know. To all the anti-piracy people why are you hating so much on the pirates? Check 1 page back on my stance about piracy. I personally could care less if people pirate anything it isnt illegal and well it does not hurt me.
Do not come up with stuff like "Notch doesnt get his money" and the like because deep down that is NOT the reason why you hate piracy. So tell me why do you hate pirates?
That is the reason I hate piracy.
Notch created a magnificent masterpiece. He spent more time developing the game than some people have been alive.
Everyone that wants to play this game, should pay for it.
It isn't theirs, they are paying him money to be allowed to play HIS game.
It is REALLY easy logic, and if you can't see how obvious it is that pirating is bad, just get out now.
Quote from Flowzor »
Quote from DonFawful »
There is something that I want to know. To all the anti-piracy people why are you hating so much on the pirates? Check 1 page back on my stance about piracy. I personally could care less if people pirate anything it isnt illegal and well it does not hurt me.
Do not come up with stuff like "Notch doesnt get his money" and the like because deep down that is NOT the reason why you hate piracy. So tell me why do you hate pirates?
Again, I don't hate piracy, I hate his attitude towards it.
And why can't "Notch doesn't get his money" be the reason? Because you're too self-centered to accept that some people aren't all about themselves?
^see above.
Also, this is the reason why sharing everything doesnt work, because people sometimes need to get off there behinds and do an honest days work to enjoy the fruits of their labor, rather than having it spoon-fed to them.
Rollback Post to RevisionRollBack
Quote from Bowserking64 »
Quote from Andeh6 »
What? So when pigs get hit by lighting, they suddenly develop into bipeds and receive brown leather skirts and golden swords from nowhere?
Regarding the original topic: No, I didn't purchase in Alpha. I wish I had.
I kept looking at it... Played around with the free/classic version... Heard lots of good things about it... Saw some awesome videos on YouTube... But I just never got around to purchasing the game.
Now that I have, and I'm actively playing on a regular basis, I really wish I'd gotten in sooner. I wish I'd paid when it was cheaper, and when it would have guaranteed me access to all future updates. Oh well...
Regarding piracy: I'm not convinced that it's bad for sales.
I think that obscurity is a bigger threat to success these days than piracy is. If nobody knows you exist, nobody is going to buy your stuff. Piracy can get your name out there. And while you aren't making sales off of the pirated copies, maybe the extra publicity will get you better sales in the long-run.
I've personally pirated a lot of stuff over the years. And I still do. And while I'm not going to claim to be holier than anybody else, I will point out that I do purchase everything that I wind up keeping/finishing.
Maybe if I had pirated Minecraft back when it was still in Alpha, I would have purchased it sooner.
I thought this post was about purchasing the game in Alpha, did I miss some sort of subtitle? Or does everyone have a case of "I Hate Mondays"?
I purchased in Beta, had no clue about the game 'till the day I purchased it. Wish I had heard about/purchased the Alpha version since I'd apparently get all updates free. But, meh, having to pay for updates isn't going to stop my wanting to play.
I dont think pirating is that horrible but seriously.. Pirating minecraft?
Even if you're 10 you could just go out offering nabours to wash their cars for 2 bucks a pop..
Get off your lazy ass and freaking do something man.
The only excuse here is being lazy, or not caring.
I only pirate games that have no demos - If i like them i pay for them.
I've also decided I'm never buying a sequel again without getting a demo - Seeing as DA 2 was disappointing, and every CoD and battlefields the freaking same game with prettier graphics.
Yes, yes i am basing it all on 3 games.
Oh.. I also pirate things that are overpriced - If It's not worth the money you're asking me for, I'll wait until the price goes down or just pirate it.
Put yourself in this scenario, your neighbors live miles away, nobody has cars. Most of them hitch rides from other people; No way to make money. TRYMENOW.
and the closest gas station is 12 miles.
No one should have computers or wifi access, either, then.
I'mma go ahead and get a mod warning because I'm going to call you retarded.
Okay, you're retarded.
Just because not a damn soul lives for miles, doesn't mean that I can't get internet.
Mod Edit: Guess you called your own warning on this one. Warning issued.
Rollback Post to RevisionRollBack
Quote from SkyPiercers!? »
1. In WoW, the max level is 85.
2. He never wanted the game to be like WoW, he wanted us to help us build structures from the game.
3. Conversations are never like that in WoW.
At least show SOME intellect when posting.
Not so much the fact they don't work that pisses me off.
The fact that does, is that they take something HE has made ALL ALONE, and they STEAL IT from him without giving him ANYTHING in return.
@Pirates, if you had two cars that are the same, and you used one, how would it feel if I just took the other one?
It doesn't hurt you, you aren't using it, and "I don't have the money" to buy it myself, so how about I just take it for free?
Well, it doesnt make me to mad that they dont work, its just that people seen above believe they are entitled to it without working for it.
Nice analogy. Although its more as if you owned a magical car plant that turned out cars continually better but with the same security system for people to buy but they kept getting stolen by thugs 1/5 of the time (number pulled out of my ****)
Rollback Post to RevisionRollBack
Quote from Bowserking64 »
Quote from Andeh6 »
What? So when pigs get hit by lighting, they suddenly develop into bipeds and receive brown leather skirts and golden swords from nowhere?
There is something that I want to know. To all the anti-piracy people why are you hating so much on the pirates? Check 1 page back on my stance about piracy. I personally could care less if people pirate anything it isnt illegal and well it does not hurt me.
Do not come up with stuff like "Notch doesnt get his money" and the like because deep down that is NOT the reason why you hate piracy. So tell me why do you hate pirates?
Again, I don't hate piracy, I hate his attitude towards it.
And why can't "Notch doesn't get his money" be the reason? Because you're too self-centered to accept that some people aren't all about themselves?
Being a slobbering autist (talking about myself here mods not meant against anybody else) might make me a bit more self centered then other people yes. That does not take away the fact that I can distinquish between right and wrong and know when people are acting natural a.k.a egocentric and greedy.
I wholeheartedly accept that not all people are all about themselves but get this the human brain does not work that way. Even when you think about others it's still in some way shape or form used to better yourself. Instinct isnt something that can be taken out of us. You can controll it and say that you arent a greedy basterd like the neighbour but deep down you know it's wrong. Humans are all the same wether you like it or not.
Thanks for sharing your point. :happy.gif:
greed can be counteracted by a strong mind.
Which usually requires a higher level of intelligence.
which alot of people lack, which is where you get your knowledge of 'everyone is greedy'
So long as you have the mental strength for it, you dont have to be greedy and such.
Heck, it is natural for the human to get a strong urge to kill something whenever they have the chance, even if it is another human. If your logic was correct, we would all be killing eachother right now (on a larger scale, that is)
Rollback Post to RevisionRollBack
You are now reading this. You just lost the game.
You have just read this. You are also manually breathing.
So uh.. I'm pretty sure the topic is about purchasing the game in Alpha. I didn't watch a lot of "Between the Lions" when I was younger, but I'm just not getting the subtle undertone of piracy. Well, subtle doesn't describe it.
This is your verbal warning- continuing to talk about piracy in this thread will result in a warning.
technically your taking money out of their hands indirectly.
Is there a word for indirect theft?
meh, w/e.
Anyways, could we all just stop this flame war? Neither of us is going to end this if we just continue yelling "your wrong" at the top of our caps.
Look: here is what he is saying.
1) lives in the middle of nowehere
2) has internet
3) has a computer
Each of those requires money
If he has a house, with a computer, and internet, he can pretty damn easily afford 15 $
Anyways, on topic,
Im wondering how the updates and expansions for minecraft will work.
Like, will we be able to choose which expansions we allow?
Rollback Post to RevisionRollBack
You are now reading this. You just lost the game.
You have just read this. You are also manually breathing.
I love that fact that i purchased it in alpha then somehow i lost it, somewhere along the line my account said i had not bought it, I quit playing then bought it again in beta.
I don't think they'll charge much (or any at all) for future updates. I'll feel quite good having purchased Minecraft in Alpha if we got something special in-game - Like say, I dunno... A cape?
Updates will be free, yes, but content like DLC and expansions will have a small price.
Alpha players, however, get those for free.
Really? I didn't know that... That's cool =)
Also buying this game in alpha somehow made me feel good. Probably because I usually don't have the money to buy all the latest awesome games, I usually stick to the games I MUST have and "borrow" the rest from friends. :wink.gif:
I hope this doesn't count as talking about this thing we're not supposed to talk about.
Walking down the road, oh cool game, let's download it and play it.
That was my thought process behind it. I simply don't pay for it if I don't have to, that's all there is to it. I have better places to put my money - I don't have a lot to begin with. I wouldn't be able to afford food and pay bills if I paid for everything I like - antivirus programs, video editing programs, dozins of games, ~20gb of music, movies, tv shows, etc.
So do you use your neighbors internet? Because internet is something you don't need to pay for to survive.
I really am glad my friend told me about the game when he did, pretty soon I'll have a litter of wolves running circles around my as I mine for free. Thank you Notch .
These r 4 u--->
And for extra credit----->
I bought it. Because I didn't know it could be pirated. And I always get stuck trying to pirate games anyway. Plus I didn't know how much the game actually was until I saw the PayPal receipt because I didn't feel like converting euros to $. I'm not sure if I bought it in Alpha or Beta. Probably beta
- Wooooooooo can we get back to juicy stuff now? That was a lot more interesting.
Rollback Post to RevisionRollBack
Destroy, Rebuild, Plant the Seeds, Reclaim Victory.
A wild Moderator appears!
He uses "Don't spam off-topic nonsense in a troll thread"!
I bought it. Because I didn't know it could be pirated. And I always get stuck trying to pirate games anyway. Plus I didn't know how much the game actually was until I saw the PayPal receipt because I didn't feel like converting euros to $. I'm not sure if I bought it in Alpha or Beta. Probably beta
- Wooooooooo can we get back to juicy stuff now? That was a lot more interesting.
Nooo, we can't! That'd be doing what we're not allowed to do and that would be too much fun.
:cool.gif: They actually feel like the creator deserves the money. Now this is generally ******** because a human being by default is egoistic and does **** in a way that benefits THEM, therefor these people are lying and actually still want multiplayer, or are looking for respect from other players. Or are rich, don't care about their money and think "oh well might as well pay."
xelvair: Read a few pages back, I already talked about the differences between stealing and pirating. I'm not stealing because I'm not harming notch or mojang in any way.
I stopped reading this thread after this post.
Magixxxx, you are the most ignorant person I know of.
OT: I bought this game in alpha because I played creative mode, enjoyed it, and then saw videos on survival mode, and wanted to play it.
I pirate so many things it's not even funny. But I didn't pirate this because I didn't need to. I saw what the game was without having to pirate it to tell how fun it was. Notch deserves twice what I paid him (alpha was 50% off retail price).
Off Topif: Magixxxx, you are ignorant.
herp derp Ever heard of online work?
And if thats the case, why would you even have a computer with interent anyways?
You have just read this. You are also manually breathing.
^see above.
Also, this is the reason why sharing everything doesnt work, because people sometimes need to get off there behinds and do an honest days work to enjoy the fruits of their labor, rather than having it spoon-fed to them.
I kept looking at it... Played around with the free/classic version... Heard lots of good things about it... Saw some awesome videos on YouTube... But I just never got around to purchasing the game.
Now that I have, and I'm actively playing on a regular basis, I really wish I'd gotten in sooner. I wish I'd paid when it was cheaper, and when it would have guaranteed me access to all future updates. Oh well...
Regarding piracy: I'm not convinced that it's bad for sales.
I think that obscurity is a bigger threat to success these days than piracy is. If nobody knows you exist, nobody is going to buy your stuff. Piracy can get your name out there. And while you aren't making sales off of the pirated copies, maybe the extra publicity will get you better sales in the long-run.
I've personally pirated a lot of stuff over the years. And I still do. And while I'm not going to claim to be holier than anybody else, I will point out that I do purchase everything that I wind up keeping/finishing.
Maybe if I had pirated Minecraft back when it was still in Alpha, I would have purchased it sooner.
I purchased in Beta, had no clue about the game 'till the day I purchased it. Wish I had heard about/purchased the Alpha version since I'd apparently get all updates free. But, meh, having to pay for updates isn't going to stop my wanting to play.
I'mma go ahead and get a mod warning because I'm going to call you retarded.
Okay, you're retarded.
Just because not a damn soul lives for miles, doesn't mean that I can't get internet.
Mod Edit: Guess you called your own warning on this one. Warning issued.
Well, it doesnt make me to mad that they dont work, its just that people seen above believe they are entitled to it without working for it.
Nice analogy. Although its more as if you owned a magical car plant that turned out cars continually better but with the same security system for people to buy but they kept getting stolen by thugs 1/5 of the time (number pulled out of my ****)
greed can be counteracted by a strong mind.
Which usually requires a higher level of intelligence.
which alot of people lack, which is where you get your knowledge of 'everyone is greedy'
So long as you have the mental strength for it, you dont have to be greedy and such.
Heck, it is natural for the human to get a strong urge to kill something whenever they have the chance, even if it is another human. If your logic was correct, we would all be killing eachother right now (on a larger scale, that is)
You have just read this. You are also manually breathing.
- You have a computer
- You have internet
I'm assuming you can spend 15 dollars.
Everything is on me, the drinks is on me, the b!tches, the hotel, the weed is all free.
This is your verbal warning- continuing to talk about piracy in this thread will result in a warning.
Is there a word for indirect theft?
meh, w/e.
Anyways, could we all just stop this flame war? Neither of us is going to end this if we just continue yelling "your wrong" at the top of our caps.
Look: here is what he is saying.
1) lives in the middle of nowehere
2) has internet
3) has a computer
Each of those requires money
If he has a house, with a computer, and internet, he can pretty damn easily afford 15 $
Anyways, on topic,
Im wondering how the updates and expansions for minecraft will work.
Like, will we be able to choose which expansions we allow?
You have just read this. You are also manually breathing.
Even better question: are capes still around?
Really? I didn't know that... That's cool =)
Also buying this game in alpha somehow made me feel good. Probably because I usually don't have the money to buy all the latest awesome games, I usually stick to the games I MUST have and "borrow" the rest from friends. :wink.gif:
I hope this doesn't count as talking about this thing we're not supposed to talk about.
So do you use your neighbors internet? Because internet is something you don't need to pay for to survive.
Ot, I love my alpha account. :biggrin.gif:
These r 4 u--->
And for extra credit----->
I bought it. Because I didn't know it could be pirated. And I always get stuck trying to pirate games anyway. Plus I didn't know how much the game actually was until I saw the PayPal receipt because I didn't feel like converting euros to $. I'm not sure if I bought it in Alpha or Beta. Probably beta
- Wooooooooo can we get back to juicy stuff now? That was a lot more interesting.
A wild Moderator appears!
He uses "Don't spam off-topic nonsense in a troll thread"!
It's super-effective!
Nooo, we can't! That'd be doing what we're not allowed to do and that would be too much fun.
I stopped reading this thread after this post.
Magixxxx, you are the most ignorant person I know of.
OT: I bought this game in alpha because I played creative mode, enjoyed it, and then saw videos on survival mode, and wanted to play it.
I pirate so many things it's not even funny. But I didn't pirate this because I didn't need to. I saw what the game was without having to pirate it to tell how fun it was. Notch deserves twice what I paid him (alpha was 50% off retail price).
Off Topif: Magixxxx, you are ignorant.