This is not really a single suggestion, but a thread of suggestions put together.
thick variant trees!
Thick variant trees is a 2x2 version of trees that currently don't have this variant. If jungle trees, spruce trees and dark oak trees have this variant, why not oak,birch and acacia trees?
acacia tree
The image is just to give you an idea, and the tree is not the actual one.
birch tree
The image is just to give you an idea, and the tree is not the actual one.
oak tree
The image is just to give you an idea, and the tree is not the actual one.
Better aquatic wildlife system!
Again, another step towards improving the ambience of minecraft.
Currently, fishes can be found in any water bodies, regardless of river, or ocean. This suggestion suggests that now, fishes can only be found in specific biomes. E.G. salmon in rivers, pufferfish in oceans, fish in both rivers and oceans.
This handles the way fishes work, as nobody expects salmon to be in the ocean. Since the fishing system was improved in 1.7.2, why not improve aquatic wildlife?
A visual of the system
Take note: The water color is not different. In the image, the color is added to easily differentiate between river and ocean.
More wildlife!
More wildlife! When bats were implemented, its purpose was to create ambience. However, seeing bats everywhere at night isn't helping very much.
When you step into a forest, all you can see is trees. Only a few wild pigs, cows and sheep. However, you feel that something is missing. Shouldn't a forest be teeming with lively birds?
Imagine having built a house in the middle of a forest. You wake up everyday to the same old sound of pigs and cows. Now add the lively bird calls. Now, THAT'S a forest.
About birds-
Birds drop feather when killed. They also give xp. However, they are not tamable, which makes bird capturing much more challenging.
Birds must also be killed by a player to drop feathers. This prevents yet another farmable mob.
Photo courtesy of Dr. Zhark.
Now, imagine you step into a savanna. Definitely, you would see some horses to your left. To your right is just a large patch of savanna that stretches endlessly. The area seems pretty devoid of life. This dampens your mood.
Then, now you can see several lions in the horizon. They spawn in packs. You can hear their majestic growl in the distance. However, they have yet to spot you. Beware, not to attack them, as they may attack you back.
About lions-
Are 1.5blocks tall. They are not tamable, and only drop some xp when killed. They spawn in packs under trees. They also have manes to differentiate betwee male and female. Sometimes the males[lions with manes] hunt pigs, cows and horses.
Photo courtesy of Mavans.[Minecraftforums username]
Now, you are feeling adventurous. You spot a swamp in the distance. Seeing several slimes hopping around isn't going to convince you that the swamp is teeming with wildlife.
Then, several crocodile heads emerge from underneath the water. They spot some animals and slowly make the kill. You can already look forward to swamps.
About crocodiles-
Have a crocodile shape[duh] and a dark torquoise-green color. They do not spawn in groups and are scattered all over swamps. They try to aviod other biomes. They spawn in 1-block deep shores and are aggressive to players when attacked. They drop 1-3 leather and some xp when killed.
Photo courtesy of Crackedegg[minecraftforum usename].
Better audio ambience!
When you step into a forest, all you hear is pigs, cows and sheep sounds. They seem very irritating to your ears. The sound of water flowing indicates that there is a river nearby. However, the vegetation seems completely silent.
Then, you hear bush sounds and bird calls. The sounds are filled with hope that you are not alone in your world.
You then discover a jungle. The jungle is full of ocelots. Other than meows, the jungle seems pretty devoid of life.
Then, animal calls emerge. You can also hear some animals beating the bushes. The jungle suddenly seems very lively.
Also, some sounds can be used for deserts. When you are in the middle of no where, some dull music can play for you, giving you the experience of actually being in a desert.
Better terrain!
Compare the two pictures.
Photo courtesy of minecraftgallery.com
Do you see any work that needs to be done?
1. Forests needs to have unexpected terrain. Having a few large cliffs isn't going to help. However, the bumps and dips in the ground may help alot. Also, thick variant trees may also help in the ambience.
2. More water bodies. No. Not those huge ones out there. I'm talking about small, puddles of water lying around.
3. Variant of densities of trees and vegetation. It is pretty plain for a forest to have equal density throughout, with trees equally spaced from each other. Try to have variating densities! Some spots, the trees are very spaced out. In others, the trees are very packed together.
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--- Why an ambience update?
I believe that everyone should be entitled to an ultimate experience of minecraft. Playing minecraft should not be an experience where you sit infront of your computer and stare at the screen for ages. It should be an out-of-body experience , adventuring in the jungle, the dry desert, that swamp you last thought it was devoid of life, that savanna you discovered that seemed pretty plain.
This video demonstrates how "exciting" and "lively" minecraft is.
If minecraft's ambience remains the same, dull old way, then no one will ever look forward to forests. I believe people will prefer a forest with unexpected surprises, clearings and puddles of water that are hard to navigate.
However, the ultimate choice is, i believe, in everyone's hands. If you support, do leave a post below and tell us why do you support. However, if you do not agree, feel free to comment and disagree. Ultimately, minecraft isn't MY game. It is everyone's game. Everyone should have an opinion, not someone else's opinion.
First off, I'm pretty sure this kind of "Collation" thread is what the moderators call a "Wishlist", and aren't allowed. Correct me if I'm wrong...
But either way, general support! I just see a few problems~
First off, what about water in other biomes besides rivers and oceans? Would they only be able to have normal fish, or all the different kinds of fish, or what?
Second, I do not support lions or crocodiles. Ocelots are similar enough to be a cover-all for wild cats, so there's no reason to go adding in lions. And as for crocs, we have slimes as a semi-unique swamp mob. I like the idea of birds, though why not let them be farmed? I happen to be a fan of automation.
And last, I support the idea of 2x2 trees of different types fully- though, I don't really like your renditions of what they would look like, no offense intended. The oak tree is smaller than a large 1x1 oak, and birch trees can grow to be very tall IRL. Much taller than 7-8 meters...
First off, I'm pretty sure this kind of "Collation" thread is what the moderators call a "Wishlist", and aren't allowed. Correct me if I'm wrong... But either way, general support! I just see a few problems~ First off, what about water in other biomes besides rivers and oceans? Would they only be able to have normal fish, or all the different kinds of fish, or what? Second, I do not support lions or crocodiles. Ocelots are similar enough to be a cover-all for wild cats, so there's no reason to go adding in lions. And as for crocs, we have slimes as a semi-unique swamp mob. I like the idea of birds, though why not let them be farmed? I happen to be a fan of automation. And last, I support the idea of 2x2 trees of different types fully- though, I don't really like your renditions of what they would look like, no offense intended. The oak tree is smaller than a large 1x1 oak, and birch trees can grow to be very tall IRL. Much taller than 7-8 meters...
1. Well, its a collation thread of multiple ideas from different people, all put together under a single theme, so i guess it's allowed.
2.As for water in different biomes, i am not very sure which fish belongs to which biome, hence i only bring up 2 examples.
3.I doubt mojang wants another farmable mob. Birds are for ambience, like bats.
4.My renditions are just examples to give people the general idea. It is not the actual tree that i'm thinking of.
I notice a certain bit of bias in this comparison, seeing how the first uses fast graphics and the default textures
whereas the second not only uses an HD pack but also some sort of shaders. Although the terrain IS still better.
On thicker trees: Heck no for acacia, that looks hideous. Maybe for oak in plains, and maybe for birch if they're only in Birch Forest M and as tall as Birch Forest M trees, but they both need larger canopies.
Aquatic system: Hell no to different water colors, the transitions are way too abrupt. I used to play with them back when I used Misa's texture pack and Optifine. Absolutely hideous. Sure for the aquatic system, but there should really be some more (useful) fish first and fish should be mobs instead of... whatever they are now. Particles?
Birds: Sure.
Lions: Seems rather useless to me. All biomes deserve a LOT more content, but these seem rather useless if they're neutral. Should be more territorial than they are now, warning you if you get to close with a growl and attacking you if you stay nearby too long.
Crocodiles: I'd prefer it if they dropped crocodile skin instead but leather is fine.
Better ambience: If more mobs were added that have further-reaching sounds than the existing ones (e.g. monkeys, birds, etc... just throwing examples out here) and biome-specific music was a thing I don't see the need for this.
Better terrain: Yeah, but not like how you said. Essentially, what my "The Other Adventure Update: Part 1" thread would be better, but it's essentially an overhaul. More realistic lakes would be nice because these crater-lakes (which are the small puddles you mentioned) are atrocious and forests feel tiny because the trees are puny, but that's about it that's related to what you said.
In general, I agree on some points, but i'll have to say no support to the overarching update. If you want a more lively Minecraft, suggest a terrain+structure update (one that actually fixes exploration unlike r1.7) and follow it up with a mob update. Bam, lively Minecraft.
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Variants of roofed tress? No Support, because the dark spruce wood adds to the biomes intended darkness. Certain fish in certain biomes? Support! because it adds to the rather dull water bimoes and is logical. Little birds? Support... But they need a better appearance then in the pic you've displayed. Lions? 50% Support. I'm not sure on this one Crocks? No Support, I Like the idea but they don't drop leather, it needs to be implemented better! Better Ambiance? Hells yeah, 100% Support! Better Terrain? No Support. it's too big and it's not as flat that often.
No no no no NO!
You managed to take some ideas that were completely inarguably amazing and screw them.
Tree variants? Yes! Trees that have 2x2 trunks and aren't any bigger? NO!
More wildlife? YES! More passive-aggressive wildlife, none of which has any features, items, or dangers that other mobs don't? Ooh, and multicolored chickens? NO!
More variant landscape? Of course! Making forests thick and hilly like jungles? NOOOOOOOOO!!!
I do, however, think that the variant water idea is amazing. Great job on that. You should have put these suggestions in separate posts.
Aquatic system: Hell no to different water colors, the transitions are way too abrupt. I used to play with them back when I used Misa's texture pack and Optifine. Absolutely hideous.
I'm sorry i didn't make it clear though... The river and oceans were colored so that one could easily differentiate between river and ocean. The water isn't going to be really colored. Sorry for the confusion.
thick variant trees!
Thick variant trees is a 2x2 version of trees that currently don't have this variant. If jungle trees, spruce trees and dark oak trees have this variant, why not oak,birch and acacia trees?
acacia tree
The image is just to give you an idea, and the tree is not the actual one.
birch tree
The image is just to give you an idea, and the tree is not the actual one.
oak tree
The image is just to give you an idea, and the tree is not the actual one.
Better aquatic wildlife system!
Again, another step towards improving the ambience of minecraft.
Currently, fishes can be found in any water bodies, regardless of river, or ocean. This suggestion suggests that now, fishes can only be found in specific biomes. E.G. salmon in rivers, pufferfish in oceans, fish in both rivers and oceans.
This handles the way fishes work, as nobody expects salmon to be in the ocean. Since the fishing system was improved in 1.7.2, why not improve aquatic wildlife?
A visual of the system
Take note: The water color is not different. In the image, the color is added to easily differentiate between river and ocean.
More wildlife!
More wildlife! When bats were implemented, its purpose was to create ambience. However, seeing bats everywhere at night isn't helping very much.
When you step into a forest, all you can see is trees. Only a few wild pigs, cows and sheep. However, you feel that something is missing. Shouldn't a forest be teeming with lively birds?
Imagine having built a house in the middle of a forest. You wake up everyday to the same old sound of pigs and cows. Now add the lively bird calls. Now, THAT'S a forest.
About birds-
Birds drop feather when killed. They also give xp. However, they are not tamable, which makes bird capturing much more challenging.
Birds must also be killed by a player to drop feathers. This prevents yet another farmable mob.
Photo courtesy of Dr. Zhark.
Now, imagine you step into a savanna. Definitely, you would see some horses to your left. To your right is just a large patch of savanna that stretches endlessly. The area seems pretty devoid of life. This dampens your mood.
Then, now you can see several lions in the horizon. They spawn in packs. You can hear their majestic growl in the distance. However, they have yet to spot you. Beware, not to attack them, as they may attack you back.
About lions-
Are 1.5blocks tall. They are not tamable, and only drop some xp when killed. They spawn in packs under trees. They also have manes to differentiate betwee male and female. Sometimes the males[lions with manes] hunt pigs, cows and horses.
Photo courtesy of Mavans.[Minecraftforums username]
Now, you are feeling adventurous. You spot a swamp in the distance. Seeing several slimes hopping around isn't going to convince you that the swamp is teeming with wildlife.
Then, several crocodile heads emerge from underneath the water. They spot some animals and slowly make the kill. You can already look forward to swamps.
About crocodiles-
Have a crocodile shape[duh] and a dark torquoise-green color. They do not spawn in groups and are scattered all over swamps. They try to aviod other biomes. They spawn in 1-block deep shores and are aggressive to players when attacked. They drop 1-3 leather and some xp when killed.
Photo courtesy of Crackedegg[minecraftforum usename].
Better audio ambience!
When you step into a forest, all you hear is pigs, cows and sheep sounds. They seem very irritating to your ears. The sound of water flowing indicates that there is a river nearby. However, the vegetation seems completely silent.
Then, you hear bush sounds and bird calls. The sounds are filled with hope that you are not alone in your world.
You then discover a jungle. The jungle is full of ocelots. Other than meows, the jungle seems pretty devoid of life.
Then, animal calls emerge. You can also hear some animals beating the bushes. The jungle suddenly seems very lively.
Also, some sounds can be used for deserts. When you are in the middle of no where, some dull music can play for you, giving you the experience of actually being in a desert.
Better terrain!
Compare the two pictures.
Photo courtesy of minecraftgallery.com
Do you see any work that needs to be done?
1. Forests needs to have unexpected terrain. Having a few large cliffs isn't going to help. However, the bumps and dips in the ground may help alot. Also, thick variant trees may also help in the ambience.
2. More water bodies. No. Not those huge ones out there. I'm talking about small, puddles of water lying around.
3. Variant of densities of trees and vegetation. It is pretty plain for a forest to have equal density throughout, with trees equally spaced from each other. Try to have variating densities! Some spots, the trees are very spaced out. In others, the trees are very packed together.
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Why an ambience update?
I believe that everyone should be entitled to an ultimate experience of minecraft. Playing minecraft should not be an experience where you sit infront of your computer and stare at the screen for ages. It should be an out-of-body experience , adventuring in the jungle, the dry desert, that swamp you last thought it was devoid of life, that savanna you discovered that seemed pretty plain.
This video demonstrates how "exciting" and "lively" minecraft is.
If minecraft's ambience remains the same, dull old way, then no one will ever look forward to forests. I believe people will prefer a forest with unexpected surprises, clearings and puddles of water that are hard to navigate.
However, the ultimate choice is, i believe, in everyone's hands. If you support, do leave a post below and tell us why do you support. However, if you do not agree, feel free to comment and disagree. Ultimately, minecraft isn't MY game. It is everyone's game. Everyone should have an opinion, not someone else's opinion.
Thanks!
I used to be chocolate cake.. but then new Minecraft Forums happened..
But either way, general support! I just see a few problems~
First off, what about water in other biomes besides rivers and oceans? Would they only be able to have normal fish, or all the different kinds of fish, or what?
Second, I do not support lions or crocodiles. Ocelots are similar enough to be a cover-all for wild cats, so there's no reason to go adding in lions. And as for crocs, we have slimes as a semi-unique swamp mob. I like the idea of birds, though why not let them be farmed? I happen to be a fan of automation.
And last, I support the idea of 2x2 trees of different types fully- though, I don't really like your renditions of what they would look like, no offense intended. The oak tree is smaller than a large 1x1 oak, and birch trees can grow to be very tall IRL. Much taller than 7-8 meters...
1. Well, its a collation thread of multiple ideas from different people, all put together under a single theme, so i guess it's allowed.
2.As for water in different biomes, i am not very sure which fish belongs to which biome, hence i only bring up 2 examples.
3.I doubt mojang wants another farmable mob. Birds are for ambience, like bats.
4.My renditions are just examples to give people the general idea. It is not the actual tree that i'm thinking of.
Anyway, thanks for sharing your opinion with us
Overall though, 75% support. YES ON THE BIRDS!
Hi-five!
This video demonstrates how "exciting" and "lively" minecraft is.
I notice a certain bit of bias in this comparison, seeing how the first uses fast graphics and the default textures
whereas the second not only uses an HD pack but also some sort of shaders. Although the terrain IS still better.
Aquatic system: Hell no to different water colors, the transitions are way too abrupt. I used to play with them back when I used Misa's texture pack and Optifine. Absolutely hideous. Sure for the aquatic system, but there should really be some more (useful) fish first and fish should be mobs instead of... whatever they are now. Particles?
Birds: Sure.
Lions: Seems rather useless to me. All biomes deserve a LOT more content, but these seem rather useless if they're neutral. Should be more territorial than they are now, warning you if you get to close with a growl and attacking you if you stay nearby too long.
Crocodiles: I'd prefer it if they dropped crocodile skin instead but leather is fine.
Better ambience: If more mobs were added that have further-reaching sounds than the existing ones (e.g. monkeys, birds, etc... just throwing examples out here) and biome-specific music was a thing I don't see the need for this.
Better terrain: Yeah, but not like how you said. Essentially, what my "The Other Adventure Update: Part 1" thread would be better, but it's essentially an overhaul. More realistic lakes would be nice because these crater-lakes (which are the small puddles you mentioned) are atrocious and forests feel tiny because the trees are puny, but that's about it that's related to what you said.
In general, I agree on some points, but i'll have to say no support to the overarching update. If you want a more lively Minecraft, suggest a terrain+structure update (one that actually fixes exploration unlike r1.7) and follow it up with a mob update. Bam, lively Minecraft.
Certain fish in certain biomes? Support! because it adds to the rather dull water bimoes and is logical.
Little birds? Support... But they need a better appearance then in the pic you've displayed.
Lions? 50% Support. I'm not sure on this one
Crocks? No Support, I Like the idea but they don't drop leather, it needs to be implemented better!
Better Ambiance? Hells yeah, 100% Support!
Better Terrain? No Support. it's too big and it's not as flat that often.
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Please click it or it will die!!!!!
Math FTW
You managed to take some ideas that were completely inarguably amazing and screw them.
Tree variants? Yes! Trees that have 2x2 trunks and aren't any bigger? NO!
More wildlife? YES! More passive-aggressive wildlife, none of which has any features, items, or dangers that other mobs don't? Ooh, and multicolored chickens? NO!
More variant landscape? Of course! Making forests thick and hilly like jungles? NOOOOOOOOO!!!
I do, however, think that the variant water idea is amazing. Great job on that. You should have put these suggestions in separate posts.
This will, without a doubt, turn my 15 fps into 0. I already can't go to a jungle without crashing, and this will turn it into chaos.
I'm sorry i didn't make it clear though... The river and oceans were colored so that one could easily differentiate between river and ocean. The water isn't going to be really colored. Sorry for the confusion.
Those 2x2 trees? Simple.
1. Cut a spiral stairs up.
2. Cut it down from the top.
Here's a visual.