Yeah, I think the wither skeletons should be sorta like endermen, but in the nether, and they should have a %50 percent chance of dropping a head, and they should not spawn within 5 blocks (meters) of a light source that has a level of 13 or above, which makes them not spawn near the lava oceans. That`s what I think how the wither skeleton problem should be dealt with.
Thanks everyone for voting in the poll. The ideas for handling Wither Skeleton spawning are nearly tied, with Overworld light having a slight lead. If you haven't voted yet, please do! This is really close!
If you have any other ideas on how to handle spawning, please say so and I'll add them to the poll.
I'm supporting. Wither Skeleton's are impossible to find in Nether Fortresses which are already impossible to find. (not impossible, but you know what I mean.)
The Nether is a fairly horrid place. If I had my way as a zombie pigman or Wither Skeleton I would consider a fortress to be a luxury hotel.
Collecting something like Wither Skulls on its own seems like a difficult premise. Comparing this with the overworld if there was more stuff to do in the nether it would not be such a bother.
So to balance things out for now...
Make the chances of a Wither Skeleton spawning slightly more rare in non-fortress places. Outside of the Fortresses there isn't much to do. If there were it would make the act of collecting these skulls slightly less... harrowing.
i haven't played 1.4 but im guessing that wither skeletons would take alot of time tying to kill then trying to set a goal for finding 500,
also its about a 10% chance i find a nether fortress mainly beacuse i spend more time in the overworld for
~ Building All my Builds (Something Like a Blacksmith or A Farmhouse , i spend most of my time building anyway xD )
~ Exploring Caves ( i always seem to find about 20-60 diamonds in all my SSP maps )
~i get terrible lag when im in the nether (im not sure why but . my computer runs minecraft perfectly fine .i think the nether hates me )
so maybe they should make wither skeletons spawn more often (not that often. 35% chance of spawning maybe?)
and not ONLY in nether fortresses but also everywhere in the nether
well me and my friends were playing on the xbox 360 version and they were inside and I was outside and the skeleton riding a spider and it dose do some damage but I have not faced the wither so I dont know how to take them on or prevent them.
Dang it, the poll got deleted. This happens way too often.
I'm probably not going to recreate it - it was close, but I think the one pulling ahead was the overworld lighting system. I'll be adding that to the OP.
well me and my friends were playing on the xbox 360 version and they were inside and I was outside and the skeleton riding a spider and it dose do some damage but I have not faced the wither so I dont know how to take them on or prevent them.
um... Do you support? This suggestion is mostly for the PC version, so I'm not really sure what you are trying to say here...
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How about, Nether Bridges? Just like the roads in a Nether Fortress, just that it's really long, usually goes over lava lakes, and has a small ''tower''-like section every 2 pylons. They are very common and appear in patches, in an almost-perfect grid shape, with some broken corners and ends. The wither skeletons spawn in the ''tower''-like sections. Problem solved.
Also, that would make getting the bricks needed for a Blast Furnace (in Railcraft) a little bit more realistic...
Right now, Wither Skeletons only spawn in Nether Fortresses. People have been asking for more features to be added to the Nether, and as of now all the features in the Nether are in Nether Fortresses except for glowstone, Zombie Pigmen, and Ghasts. Nether Fortresses have Nether Bricks, Blazes (necessary for potions), Nether Warts, and right now Wither Skeletons as well.
Why should half of all the features of the Nether be all in Nether Strongholds? I don't know about you, but whenever I go to the Nether it is almost always to find a Nether Stronghold.
In addition to that, Wither Skeletons right now only drop a Wither Skeleton Skull 2.5% of the time. That's a 1 in 40 chance of you getting a Wither Skeleton Skull. For those of you who haven't done the math, that means you need to kill an average of 120 Wither Skeletons to summon the Wither. I spent a half-hour in a Nether Stronghold and found 3. Do the math - I don't know about you, but I don't have enough time to hunt down 120 or more Wither Skeletons just to summon a boss.
THE SOLUTION
All this points to a very simple solution: Move Wither Skeletons out of Nether Fortresses. This would increase how common they are, and give players a reason to explore more of the Nether beyond just Nether Fortresses. It's a very simple idea, but a very effective solution. In addition, this is a way to get a hostile mob into the nether. Right now the most common mob is neutral, and Ghasts are fairly rare. Wither Skeletons would give a reason to make the player cautious. All a player really has to watch out for wandering around the nether now is lava and the occasional Ghast.
NOTE: This would not stop Wither Skeletons from spawning inside Nether Fortresses, as the name probably implies (sorry). It would just allow them to spawn everywhere, including both inside and outside Nether Fortresses.
FAQ/Responses to common criticism:
Q: The Wither is a boss. It is meant to be hard to summon!
A: Yes, and I agree it should be hard to summon. But right now, it takes fartoo long. You have to kill 120, on average, and it might take you a half-hour or so just to find three. This idea keeps it a challenge without making it so only a collaborative multiplayer effort or obsession is able to summon the wither. People want to be able to summon it in single player without being in a nether fortress 24/7.
Q: How commonly would they spawn outside of fortresses?
A: The same as they do now inside of fortresses. They won't spawn in groups like Zombie Pigmen, and are a bit rarer to begin with, so they still will be a bit hard to find, kind of like magma cubes. I'm sure Jeb can mess around with the spawn rate to make it good.
Q: Wouldn't this stop people from building bases in the Nether because a hostile mob could spawn in their base all it wanted? (Thanks to corinanth for bringing this up)
A: The game records what source each light come from, so my solution is to have Wither Skeletons not be able to spawn within a light level of 7 from a light source that can only come from the Overworld. Basically, they wouldn't be able to spawn in range of light from anything but fire, lava, and glowstone.
Q: Why are there so few FAQs?
A: This is all I can think of for now I'll add more later.
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I looked around in the nether for literally 11 minutes and found 4 wither skeletons. They aren't that rare, and 2 of them spawned OUTSIDE of a wither fortress. The system is just fine. We don't want finding wither skeletons to be too easy...jeez.
I looked around in the nether for literally 11 minutes and found 4 wither skeletons. They aren't that rare, and 2 of them spawned OUTSIDE of a wither fortress. The system is just fine. We don't want finding wither skeletons to be too easy...jeez.
Please don't quote the OP...
And those two that spawned outside probably just walked out. Wither skeletons do not spawn outside of fortresses.
I looked around in the nether for literally 11 minutes and found 4 wither skeletons. They aren't that rare, and 2 of them spawned OUTSIDE of a wither fortress. The system is just fine. We don't want finding wither skeletons to be too easy...jeez.
You got pretty lucky finding so many in such a little amount of time, and as Aramil said, Wither Skeletons can't spawn outside of fortresses. It is impossible, so clearly they just wandered out, or you were imagining things.
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You got pretty lucky finding so many in such a little amount of time, and as Aramil said, Wither Skeletons can't spawn outside of fortresses. It is impossible, so clearly they just wandered out, or you were imagining things.
personally i have never had a problem finding nether fortresses and what i have found is that the wither skeletons spawn more commonly on the big open nether bridges of the fortress. however i do think the fortresses should be a little easier to find and as for the skeletons even though i find them more common than most people (i think), i have never gotten a single head. so altogether i think that drop rate of the heads should be increased.
I just spent the last two hours tromping around a fortress. I've killed a few dozen wither skeletons. No skulls yet. This is gonna be a while. I'm gonna try building/digging spawn platforms in and around the fortress to up my chances.
If you have any other ideas on how to handle spawning, please say so and I'll add them to the poll.
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The Nether is a fairly horrid place. If I had my way as a zombie pigman or Wither Skeleton I would consider a fortress to be a luxury hotel.
Collecting something like Wither Skulls on its own seems like a difficult premise. Comparing this with the overworld if there was more stuff to do in the nether it would not be such a bother.
So to balance things out for now...
Make the chances of a Wither Skeleton spawning slightly more rare in non-fortress places. Outside of the Fortresses there isn't much to do. If there were it would make the act of collecting these skulls slightly less... harrowing.
i haven't played 1.4 but im guessing that wither skeletons would take alot of time tying to kill then trying to set a goal for finding 500,
also its about a 10% chance i find a nether fortress mainly beacuse i spend more time in the overworld for
~ Building All my Builds (Something Like a Blacksmith or A Farmhouse , i spend most of my time building anyway xD )
~ Exploring Caves ( i always seem to find about 20-60 diamonds in all my SSP maps )
~i get terrible lag when im in the nether (im not sure why but . my computer runs minecraft perfectly fine .i think the nether hates me )
so maybe they should make wither skeletons spawn more often (not that often. 35% chance of spawning maybe?)
and not ONLY in nether fortresses but also everywhere in the nether
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see the original thread here http://www.minecraftforum.net/topic/1670370-snow-capped-peaks/
I'm probably not going to recreate it - it was close, but I think the one pulling ahead was the overworld lighting system. I'll be adding that to the OP.
um... Do you support? This suggestion is mostly for the PC version, so I'm not really sure what you are trying to say here...
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Theres this new thing called reading THE WHOLE DAMN POST!
Other than that AMAZING IDEA!
Also, that would make getting the bricks needed for a Blast Furnace (in Railcraft) a little bit more realistic...
I looked around in the nether for literally 11 minutes and found 4 wither skeletons. They aren't that rare, and 2 of them spawned OUTSIDE of a wither fortress. The system is just fine. We don't want finding wither skeletons to be too easy...jeez.
Please don't quote the OP...
And those two that spawned outside probably just walked out. Wither skeletons do not spawn outside of fortresses.
I'm sorry I quoted the OP...Mom?
You got pretty lucky finding so many in such a little amount of time, and as Aramil said, Wither Skeletons can't spawn outside of fortresses. It is impossible, so clearly they just wandered out, or you were imagining things.
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I wasn't imagining.
Thanks a bunch! That looks amazing!
I've added it to the OP and I'm changing my signature as well.
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