Note that this is only an idea. If you have a suggestion/problem with this idea please give reasons why so that I can understand why you don't like it.
Basically, I was thinking about Minecraft on the computer, and how complicated the redstone can be. And, if not complicated, it can easily eat up a lot of free space. So, I thought of a solution. What if there was some sort of way to rewrite redstone circuits on something smaller to conserve space? Basically, the way this would work is that you would first craft a microchip out of whatever material. It would be a blank, green-plate like icon when not used. You would hold this chip and right click either a crafting table or a specific block of sorts and a image would come up. It would appear as a flat green grid, that you could drag to turn the view. On one side of the screen, they would have three icons. Redstone, a redstone torch, and a odd metallic block much like an iron block called a metal piece. You could drag these onto the grid and form circuits just like normal, and form inverters and such. This would easily compact circuits into a tiny item. Once you created the circuit, you would hit done and the icon would turn to the green plate but with multiple metal pieces on it. To use this, you would craft a computer, which would be a white block with a slot on the front. You would right click the computer, and drag a microchip into the slot in the center of the GUI that would come up. I'm not quite sure how you could determine which way it took the current, however it would automatically take in a lit redstone current and conduct it, and the circuit on the microchip in the computer would act as if you built it in the actual minecraft world. This could be used to compact piston elevators, allow easy puzzles, make very simple clocks etc. I think that this wouldn't add much to the game itself, however it would save alot of time and space that would normally be spent on expansive redstone circuits. Again this is just an idea, but I would love some comments on it. Thanks!
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I like your idea a lot though. I was actually thinking about something similar to this. My only criticism is that computers and microchips don't really seem to match anything else in minecraft.
Didn't even bother to read the whole thing, cuz I'm already supporting. It could also be like chests, if you put the chips near eachother it just makes bigger grids.
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This isn't a bad idea. This has crossed my mind a couple of times, but I see it is a good idea after you posted it. :smile.gif:
The items you place on the microchip should be crafted to be micro, like a micro-redstone torch. Then you will have to place the items from your inventory. :smile.gif:
There is one problem: How do you craft in micro?
EDIT: WHOA. One big problem. The redstone needs to go to a block and come from an input. Otherwise, what would a computer do? The microchip will need an input and an output. So will computers. A redstone charge going into the input of the computer will pretended the computer is a redstone circuit, continuing out the output of the computer. :smile.gif:
This isn't a bad idea. This has crossed my mind a couple of times, but I see it is a good idea after you posted it. :smile.gif:
The items you place on the microchip should be crafted to be micro, like a micro-redstone torch. Then you will have to place the items from your inventory. :smile.gif:
There is one problem: How do you craft in micro?
EDIT: WHOA. One big problem. The redstone needs to go to a block and come from an input. Otherwise, what would a computer do? The microchip will need an input and an output. So will computers. A redstone charge going into the input of the computer will pretended the computer is a redstone circuit, continuing out the output of the computer. :smile.gif:
It will be crafted in a special gui that pops up, and you will link the chips by phyisical redstone outside of the chip. (if i place a redstone at the top of the micro chip gui right in the center, that will be the output place)
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Not a bad idea, but sounds like it would have to be implemented like maps, so a limited amount of them would be possible in a world... and THAT would not be fun. Would make more sense, and probably be easier to implement, with some more standardized redstone blocks, like with the repeaters.
Not a bad idea, but sounds like it would have to be implemented like maps, so a limited amount of them would be possible in a world... and THAT would not be fun. Would make more sense, and probably be easier to implement, with some more standardized redstone blocks, like with the repeaters.
Why would it have to be limited? Theres no reasoning to it.
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What's the point of a micro? It either gets or doesn't get an input and either gives or doesn't give an output. One thing that might help:be able to use the computer to toggle the redstone levers and stuff.
I think that, whilst it would be really nice, it's completely unfitting with the minecraft universe. I also think it would be too powerful, and would therefore change the game too much.
I think that, whilst it would be really nice, it's completely unfitting with the minecraft universe. I also think it would be too powerful, and would therefore change the game too much.
It depends, really.
I tried to come up with some recipe, but then I realized that most computers need plastic.
I'd say it's too advanced for Minecraft, and didn't someone already suggest this?
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EDIT: WHOA. One big problem. The redstone needs to go to a block and come from an input. Otherwise, what would a computer do? The microchip will need an input and an output. So will computers. A redstone charge going into the input of the computer will pretended the computer is a redstone circuit, continuing out the output of the computer. :smile.gif:
Thank you, I forgot about that. In the Computer's GUI, it would also need 2 buttons on each side. One would be on top of the other. They would be output and input, and you could set the output and input. Sorry, I forgot about that.
And, I think what you were saying about the computer acting as a circuit, meant that it would act as if it was a block of redstone, correct me if I'm wrong. Yes, I'm not an expert programmer so I wouldn't know how to make it act as if the circuit was there. Though, I THINK, it would basically take the circuit that was written onto the microchip and act as if it was physically there. This would cause problems, however I'm not entirely sure how that part would work.
I'm going to reply to a few things and hopefully answer a few questions. First, to those that say it is too advanced for Minecraft, before 1.3 I would have said so, before I learned about mods. Take pistons, Minecraft once was a world in which you got to walk in. Nothing else :unsure.gif: It then got more advanced, and went through huge changes and eventually got pistons. Machines, that you can make something as advanced as a printer with. I think Minecraft should stay on the same base, the same blocky world as always. However, its due for huge changes, and personally, I think complex things like pistons are just as cool as new features like the upcoming adventure update. We all have opinions, I'm just giving mine.
To those who are confused on how you would make a microchip, I think of it as opening up the build GUI, and then what appears in my mind is a green grid platform, with Redstone, Redstone Torch, and iron block icons in the right hand corner. I imagine myself dragging and turning the grid by holding left click and dragging. And essentially, that's what it would be like. The way I think of it reminds me slightly of MC Edit.
Hope I answered some questions, and, I'm trying to do better with my paragraphs by the way. :tongue.gif:
Give me a second, I'm gonna try and put a terrible mockup of a UI together.
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My interpretation would be something like this. The chip as shown would be above the inventory, much like a current chest. The chip would be shown as a plan view - top down. Redstone wiring could be fed into all four sides as input or output, much as in a real redstone circuit. The issues come here:
How would you designate which block a redstone torch should be attached to? (possibly by right-clicking the slot until it is as you wanted, or scrolling through possible positions before placing. That would work better for things like repeaters, which have multiple user-changeable metadata, direction and intensity)
How would you show the number of ticks a repeater takes? (again same as above possibly)
Redstone power would not be recieveable or transmittable up or downwards, but this could still GREATLY reduce the amount of space a circuit takes up.
Oh, and chip blocks could be placed next to each other and transmit between each other (or not as the case may be).
Here's a possible example of a simple clock circuit. The output is at the bottom-right of the image, and the button is used to start the clock. In the image, the clock is already started.
Yes.
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Anyhow, for the longest time I was hoping there was a way to do this, until I found the minecraft wiki and realized it didn't exist.
All it is, is making a custom redstone block that preforms functions already implimented in-game. I can't imagine it would be terribly difficult. At the very least, you could probably mod a chest to contain the circuit you wanted and the chest itself could be the block.
It always amazed me how patient people are and how much room redstone circuits take up. It's driving me insane. On the other hand, I kind of like looking at the physical makeup in game of logic gates. I love how this is teaching the (mainly) younger generation about computer logic and logic gates. Electronics is a dying hobby, and I love that I can apply my electrical engineering knowledge to minecraft with redstone.
Basically, I was thinking about Minecraft on the computer, and how complicated the redstone can be. And, if not complicated, it can easily eat up a lot of free space. So, I thought of a solution. What if there was some sort of way to rewrite redstone circuits on something smaller to conserve space? Basically, the way this would work is that you would first craft a microchip out of whatever material. It would be a blank, green-plate like icon when not used. You would hold this chip and right click either a crafting table or a specific block of sorts and a image would come up. It would appear as a flat green grid, that you could drag to turn the view. On one side of the screen, they would have three icons. Redstone, a redstone torch, and a odd metallic block much like an iron block called a metal piece. You could drag these onto the grid and form circuits just like normal, and form inverters and such. This would easily compact circuits into a tiny item. Once you created the circuit, you would hit done and the icon would turn to the green plate but with multiple metal pieces on it. To use this, you would craft a computer, which would be a white block with a slot on the front. You would right click the computer, and drag a microchip into the slot in the center of the GUI that would come up. I'm not quite sure how you could determine which way it took the current, however it would automatically take in a lit redstone current and conduct it, and the circuit on the microchip in the computer would act as if you built it in the actual minecraft world. This could be used to compact piston elevators, allow easy puzzles, make very simple clocks etc. I think that this wouldn't add much to the game itself, however it would save alot of time and space that would normally be spent on expansive redstone circuits. Again this is just an idea, but I would love some comments on it. Thanks!
I like your idea a lot though. I was actually thinking about something similar to this. My only criticism is that computers and microchips don't really seem to match anything else in minecraft.
Well put.
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The items you place on the microchip should be crafted to be micro, like a micro-redstone torch. Then you will have to place the items from your inventory. :smile.gif:
There is one problem: How do you craft in micro?
EDIT: WHOA. One big problem. The redstone needs to go to a block and come from an input. Otherwise, what would a computer do? The microchip will need an input and an output. So will computers. A redstone charge going into the input of the computer will pretended the computer is a redstone circuit, continuing out the output of the computer. :smile.gif:
It will be crafted in a special gui that pops up, and you will link the chips by phyisical redstone outside of the chip. (if i place a redstone at the top of the micro chip gui right in the center, that will be the output place)
Why would it have to be limited? Theres no reasoning to it.
It depends, really.
I tried to come up with some recipe, but then I realized that most computers need plastic.
Thank you, I forgot about that. In the Computer's GUI, it would also need 2 buttons on each side. One would be on top of the other. They would be output and input, and you could set the output and input. Sorry, I forgot about that.
And, I think what you were saying about the computer acting as a circuit, meant that it would act as if it was a block of redstone, correct me if I'm wrong. Yes, I'm not an expert programmer so I wouldn't know how to make it act as if the circuit was there. Though, I THINK, it would basically take the circuit that was written onto the microchip and act as if it was physically there. This would cause problems, however I'm not entirely sure how that part would work.
To those who are confused on how you would make a microchip, I think of it as opening up the build GUI, and then what appears in my mind is a green grid platform, with Redstone, Redstone Torch, and iron block icons in the right hand corner. I imagine myself dragging and turning the grid by holding left click and dragging. And essentially, that's what it would be like. The way I think of it reminds me slightly of MC Edit.
Hope I answered some questions, and, I'm trying to do better with my paragraphs by the way. :tongue.gif:
Why? Its just regular redstone, except more compact.
Yes.
Are you high?
I don't know if he is, but I sure am :smile.gif:
Anyhow, for the longest time I was hoping there was a way to do this, until I found the minecraft wiki and realized it didn't exist.
All it is, is making a custom redstone block that preforms functions already implimented in-game. I can't imagine it would be terribly difficult. At the very least, you could probably mod a chest to contain the circuit you wanted and the chest itself could be the block.
It always amazed me how patient people are and how much room redstone circuits take up. It's driving me insane. On the other hand, I kind of like looking at the physical makeup in game of logic gates. I love how this is teaching the (mainly) younger generation about computer logic and logic gates. Electronics is a dying hobby, and I love that I can apply my electrical engineering knowledge to minecraft with redstone.