Okay so it doesn't go this fast normally, which means that it must be either glitched for you or you've done something to cause it to glitch this way.
Which begs the following questions:
[*:o7uhhzpo]Why is it doing that for you?
[*:o7uhhzpo]Why not just don't do that thing?
[*:o7uhhzpo]Why is this an issue for anyone ever?
[*:o7uhhzpo]Isn't this actually kind of cool and something that, if an exploit, might be an exploit folks might WANT to have? (see: boosters)
It DOES go this fast normaly, just no human can push keys that fast.
Like I said in the video comments, I have a macro keyboard that I set up to just spam right-click as fast as it can.
The issue is that there is no limit on how fast it repeats (or at least something that's WAY too slow. I can prove it to if you like. Give me a server to hop on to, give me a bow and a lot of arrows and I'll repeat the video for you.
Another thread with the same suggestion. As mentioned before I do not wish to advertise but in my sig there is a Rangecraft link which attends to this issue. Enjoy your day.
It DOES go this fast normaly, just no human can push keys that fast.
Like I said in the video comments, I have a macro keyboard that I set up to just spam right-click as fast as it can.
So...don't?
Seriously, just don't? You say "normally" but no, that's setting up an exploit of how it would normally work. Holding down the mouse doesn't shoot it that fast, clicking really fast doesn't shoot it that fast, it's not how it normally works, you're saying "I figured out a way you can set up your **** to trick the game so you can do something that's kind of sort of broken if you have a whole inventory full of arrows"
Um...no? This is silly and a waste of time to even worry about, let alone get them to correct? If someone has managed to set up their **** to do this, then they obviously want to do this. So let em, why not? Doesn't wreck the game for anyone, lets someone else do something cool. This seems like an unnecessary **** on the parade suggestion.
The issue is that you created a macro to cheat ****, and now you're crying about it here instead of TURNING THE MACRO OFF.
No, the issue is that someone can exploit this glitch to crash players with the lag caused, not to mention it's use on a pvp server to insta-gib someone. The 'exploit' isn't any different than a turbo/autofire button that come game controllers used to feature.
I'm not crying about anything, I'm saying that I shouldn't be able to fire this many arrows that fast, and someone's going to exploit it if isn't fixed. Hence why I call it an EXPLOIT, and why I say that it NEEDS FIXING.
You're a moron for thinking that I'm crying that I can use the macro.
I'm simply pointing out that there needs to be some normalization for this. After all, if you could do the same thing with a pickaxe to insta-break blocks, wouldn't that also warrant a fix?
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Another thread with the same suggestion. As mentioned before I do not wish to advertise but in my sig there is a Rangecraft link which attends to this issue. Enjoy your day.
Rangecraft appears to be a single-player mod that would be non-functional as a server-side fix.
Basically he is saying he found something that is EASY to exploit and should be patched and you guys harass him? It is not that hard to download and set up the macro to do this. I have two double wide chests in my server all obtained legitimately without any cheats. Skeleton dungeons are common enough to make a mob grinder.
The only thing that limits this exploit from being truly effective is the delay a player can take damage, but there is nothing stopping somebody from spamming until they get a hit, waiting the delay and spamming again.
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Basically he is saying he found something that is EASY to exploit and should be patched and you guys harass him? It is not that hard to download and set up the macro to do this.
The only thing that limits this exploit from being truly effective is the delay a player can take damage, but there is nothing stopping somebody from spamming until they get a hit, waiting the delay and spamming again.
Thank you, I'm glad someone here has half a brain and can see reason. Now I feel a bit less angsty. :biggrin.gif:
No, saying minecraft is a PvP game is like saying WoW is a game about cybering furries.
That it is used for that purpose by some does not mean that's what kind of game it is. You need to understand and accept that, just like SMP players have to accept the fact that other people can place and remove blocks too.
This is a game where the potential for abuse stems from the things that we're able to do. You are proposing that those things be removed because you've found a way to abuse it.
Another thread with the same suggestion. As mentioned before I do not wish to advertise but in my sig there is a Rangecraft link which attends to this issue. Enjoy your day.
Rangecraft appears to be a single-player mod that would be non-functional as a server-side fix.
Technically it is a overall range based thread, fixing and improving all aspects of range in minecraft.
This is a game where the potential for abuse stems from the things that we're able to do. You are proposing that those things be removed because you've found a way to abuse it.
...and every good multiplayer server has some form of anti-griefing system to prevent nasty changes. This is just another thing that can be abused and should be fixed, either with a SMP mod (which I don't see happening since it's such a small thing) or, as an easy fix by the devs. All they gotta do is make shooting arrows like swinging a sword and give it a delay between 'swings'.
Your repeated stupidity is restoring my faith that 90% of people on the internet are retarded.
You should take a page from Abraham Lincoln, "Better to remain silent and be thought a fool than to speak out and remove all doubt."
Thanks for your contribution, Kark. I no longer have any doubt.
This is a game where the potential for abuse stems from the things that we're able to do. You are proposing that those things be removed because you've found a way to abuse it.
...and every good multiplayer server has some form of anti-griefing system to prevent nasty changes.
Yeah it's called a whitelist.
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Your repeated stupidity is restoring my faith that 90% of people on the internet are retarded.
You should take a page from Abraham Lincoln, "Better to remain silent and be thought a fool than to speak out and remove all doubt."
Thanks for your contribution, Kark. I no longer have any doubt.
I guess I hurt your feelings by shooting down your idea so now you're trying to save face by playing yourself off as smug.
i really hate the people that say minecraft isn't a pvp game. it makes me want to tear out their reproductive organs through their throat. it is a pvp game other wise it wouldnt be called Survival Multiplayer. and it wouldnt have the option to turn pvp on/off. many people i know who play smp agree that bows can fire too fast. the only people that seem to disagree are the people who dont play on pvp servers. i think there should be some sort of cooldown time added to slow it down. even when you are not using a macro it fires very fast.
i really hate the people that say minecraft isn't a pvp game. it makes me want to tear out their reproductive organs through their throat. it is a pvp game other wise it wouldnt be called Survival Multiplayer.
i really hate the people that say minecraft isn't a pvp game. it makes me want to tear out their reproductive organs through their throat. it is a pvp game other wise it wouldnt be called Survival Multiplayer.
...unless it's a cooperative game.
And guess what
It Freakin' is?
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i really hate the people that say minecraft isn't a pvp game. it makes me want to tear out their reproductive organs through their throat. it is a pvp game other wise it wouldnt be called Survival Multiplayer.
Which begs the following questions:
[*:o7uhhzpo]Why is it doing that for you?
[*:o7uhhzpo]Why not just don't do that thing?
[*:o7uhhzpo]Why is this an issue for anyone ever?
[*:o7uhhzpo]Isn't this actually kind of cool and something that, if an exploit, might be an exploit folks might WANT to have? (see: boosters)
Like I said in the video comments, I have a macro keyboard that I set up to just spam right-click as fast as it can.
The issue is that there is no limit on how fast it repeats (or at least something that's WAY too slow. I can prove it to if you like. Give me a server to hop on to, give me a bow and a lot of arrows and I'll repeat the video for you.
So...don't?
Seriously, just don't? You say "normally" but no, that's setting up an exploit of how it would normally work. Holding down the mouse doesn't shoot it that fast, clicking really fast doesn't shoot it that fast, it's not how it normally works, you're saying "I figured out a way you can set up your **** to trick the game so you can do something that's kind of sort of broken if you have a whole inventory full of arrows"
Um...no? This is silly and a waste of time to even worry about, let alone get them to correct? If someone has managed to set up their **** to do this, then they obviously want to do this. So let em, why not? Doesn't wreck the game for anyone, lets someone else do something cool. This seems like an unnecessary **** on the parade suggestion.
The issue is that you created a macro to cheat ****, and now you're crying about it here instead of TURNING THE MACRO OFF.
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No, the issue is that someone can exploit this glitch to crash players with the lag caused, not to mention it's use on a pvp server to insta-gib someone. The 'exploit' isn't any different than a turbo/autofire button that come game controllers used to feature.
I'm not crying about anything, I'm saying that I shouldn't be able to fire this many arrows that fast, and someone's going to exploit it if isn't fixed. Hence why I call it an EXPLOIT, and why I say that it NEEDS FIXING.
You're a moron for thinking that I'm crying that I can use the macro.
I'm simply pointing out that there needs to be some normalization for this. After all, if you could do the same thing with a pickaxe to insta-break blocks, wouldn't that also warrant a fix?
Rangecraft appears to be a single-player mod that would be non-functional as a server-side fix.
Minecraft is not a pvp game.
The only thing that limits this exploit from being truly effective is the delay a player can take damage, but there is nothing stopping somebody from spamming until they get a hit, waiting the delay and spamming again.
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Yeah I want to do this as soon as possible.
It is on some servers.
Thank you, I'm glad someone here has half a brain and can see reason. Now I feel a bit less angsty. :biggrin.gif:
No, saying minecraft is a PvP game is like saying WoW is a game about cybering furries.
That it is used for that purpose by some does not mean that's what kind of game it is. You need to understand and accept that, just like SMP players have to accept the fact that other people can place and remove blocks too.
This is a game where the potential for abuse stems from the things that we're able to do. You are proposing that those things be removed because you've found a way to abuse it.
Um...no.
Technically it is a overall range based thread, fixing and improving all aspects of range in minecraft.
...and every good multiplayer server has some form of anti-griefing system to prevent nasty changes. This is just another thing that can be abused and should be fixed, either with a SMP mod (which I don't see happening since it's such a small thing) or, as an easy fix by the devs. All they gotta do is make shooting arrows like swinging a sword and give it a delay between 'swings'.
Your repeated stupidity is restoring my faith that 90% of people on the internet are retarded.
You should take a page from Abraham Lincoln, "Better to remain silent and be thought a fool than to speak out and remove all doubt."
Thanks for your contribution, Kark. I no longer have any doubt.
Yeah it's called a whitelist.
I guess I hurt your feelings by shooting down your idea so now you're trying to save face by playing yourself off as smug.
That ever worked for you before?
...unless it's a cooperative game.
And guess what
It Freakin' is?
This fella's goin' places