Having recently watched a Pixlriffs video discussing copper, I thought to add a suggestion with how to use copper. If Mojang goes down the route of using copper like its IRL counterpart, my suggestion is to be able to craft copper wire where 9 x raw copper makes 1 copper ingot, and 1 copper ingot makes 16 copper wire (stackable up to 64).
The uses with copper wire is that, since copper is an extremely good electrical conductor, copper wire can be used to transmit Redstone power without any loss in the power level, regardless if the power is set to 1 or 15 it doesn't matter. Transmit 15 on one end, receive 15 at the other end. However unlike its IRL version, have copper wire not be able to go around corners. Copper wire has to be placed between two points in the same manner as tripwire and hooks. I think adding a Redstone convertor, or Redstone terminal, which has a single Redstone input on one side, and has a copper wire connection on the other side. The player would then need to place 2 terminals first then run the copper wire between them.
The benefits I envision are, no power loss throughout the wire, and while the wire cannot bend around corners, it doesn't transmit power to blocks to either side, even if they are copper wire blocks themselves. They have to be connected front and back between the terminals to transmit. This may help make smaller and more efficient Redstone machines as you can have lines of copper wire running back and forth without effecting what is to the side.
Additionally, if someone really wanted to be able to split that copper wire power off to one side, maybe add a splitter which, for the purposes of block placement, acts as a terminal you can right click on to place copper wire, but you can run wire from all 4 sides to a terminal to convert the power back into a Redstone signal.
I don't think that making copper replace redstone is a good idea.
I'd rather see it to be combined with redstone to create a pipe that emit signal only to the endings and can float in the air like most blocks.
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Axes and crossbows - taking mobs out
My bad for not making it clear. I'm not suggesting copper wire replace redstone dust, but more for working alongside redstone. Currently if you wanted to have lanes of dust run alongside each other but without interacting with each other, you'd need to have the dust at differently Y levels with a full block on top to stop the dust connecting to each other from the side.
But with wire, you can have them next to each other at the same Y level without fear of them powering the wire next to them. However having wires connected in the air just like tripwires can do now is a good idea.
My bad for not making it clear. I'm not suggesting copper wire replace redstone dust, but more for working alongside redstone. Currently if you wanted to have lanes of dust run alongside each other but without interacting with each other, you'd need to have the dust at differently Y levels with a full block on top to stop the dust connecting to each other from the side.
But with wire, you can have them next to each other at the same Y level without fear of them powering the wire next to them. However having wires connected in the air just like tripwires can do now is a good idea.
I understand, but they still can be used as redstone replacement in any case where the wire doesn't need to turn or split.
I want the wire/pipe crafting recipe to involve redstone AND copper.
Also, have in mind that tripwires float in the air whenever connected to tripwire hooks or not.
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Buildings - square, not round
Materials - from rubble mound
Dark caves - lit 'n' cleaned out
Settlements - deep underground
Farmability - to grinder bound
Shields - made creepers but sound
Axes and crossbows - taking mobs out
I understand, but they still can be used as redstone replacement in any case where the wire doesn't need to turn or split.
I want the wire/pipe crafting recipe to involve redstone AND copper.
Also, have in mind that tripwires float in the air whenever connected to tripwire hooks or not.
What about: 9 x raw copper -> 1 copper ingot -> 16 copper wire. Then 1 x copper wire + 1 x Redstone dust = 1 x Redstone wire. That way you're incorporating Redstone into wire crafting, though still require some kind of terminal to connect the wire between, as well as converting Redstone power in dust to the wire, and visa-versa?
I already knew wire as is floats in air. My original concept of copper wire was only being placed on top of full blocks, or top half slabs just like dust is now. Having wire float in air, as if it's hanging, could not only be practicable, but to those who only plays creative and builds stuff for art may also find purely decorative uses for floating copper/Redstone wire.
What about: 9 x raw copper -> 1 copper ingot -> 16 copper wire. Then 1 x copper wire + 1 x Redstone dust = 1 x Redstone wire. That way you're incorporating Redstone into wire crafting, though still require some kind of terminal to connect the wire between, as well as converting Redstone power in dust to the wire, and visa-versa?
This actually sounds a bit like a suggestion I did a while back (not going to repeat it here) except in my suggestion it was mainly to produce a block to allow vertical connections between redstone dust lanes instead of torch towers.
Since my suggestion shows the 'wire' touching normal blocks powered by redstone dust we wouldn't need a special terminal, since these wires get 'powered' in a similar way to Repeaters etc.. if it's touching a powered block - It's powered
This means any block powered by redstone dust/repeater/comparator etc acts as a terminal & has 5 other faces where a 'wire' can be attached to
If we REALLY need a 'terminal block' for wires - why not just use the Copper block ??
IMHO my suggestion still stands however now that we have copper then using that instead of Blaze rods seems a more logical way of crafting
(FYI - I used Lightning rod as 'Copper wire' in the picture just as an example, which actually makes a bit more sense than adding another new block )
I'm certainly not a redstone expert, but this seems like it could work. I'm generally open to suggestons for copper, in part because it's seeming to be increasingly... not all that useful considering it's an entire new metal. All the other types have uses in armor, tools, and unique blocks and items- making metals such as iron and gold pretty darn useful. I know copper is a new thing, but thusfar the only uses we've seen for it are some decorative blocks, and the spyglass.
That being said, I'd be a bit cautious about changing such a fundamental aspect. I think I'd rather see copper used in new redstone components than used to make such a big change to redstone.
This actually sounds a bit like a suggestion I did a while back (not going to repeat it here) except in my suggestion it was mainly to produce a block to allow vertical connections between redstone dust lanes instead of torch towers.
Since my suggestion shows the 'wire' touching normal blocks powered by redstone dust we wouldn't need a special terminal, since these wires get 'powered' in a similar way to Repeaters etc.. if it's touching a powered block - It's powered
This means any block powered by redstone dust/repeater/comparator etc acts as a terminal & has 5 other faces where a 'wire' can be attached to
If we REALLY need a 'terminal block' for wires - why not just use the Copper block ??
IMHO my suggestion still stands however now that we have copper then using that instead of Blaze rods seems a more logical way of crafting
(FYI - I used Lightning rod as 'Copper wire' in the picture just as an example, which actually makes a bit more sense than adding another new block )
I didn't see your original post, then again I only searched the forums using "copper wire", "copper" and "wire" and didn't see anything even remotely to my idea so I decided to post. However I read your original post and yes they are both very similar. I hope that Mojang does add these features and uses to copper, and if they do you should be the main contributor to the concept. 😁👍
I'm certainly not a redstone expert, but this seems like it could work. I'm generally open to suggestons for copper, in part because it's seeming to be increasingly... not all that useful considering it's an entire new metal. All the other types have uses in armor, tools, and unique blocks and items- making metals such as iron and gold pretty darn useful. I know copper is a new thing, but thusfar the only uses we've seen for it are some decorative blocks, and the spyglass.
That being said, I'd be a bit cautious about changing such a fundamental aspect. I think I'd rather see copper used in new redstone components than used to make such a big change to redstone.
You never know, they may introduce it later on in copper development after they've already made a few more additions to how copper can be used. After all, the Smithing Table was only a decoration block in 1.14 Java and 1.11 Bedrock, and wasn't a functional block until 1.16 arrived. I personally don't think it'll make as big a change to Redstone as you may think. The idea is to transmit power over longer distances as (thanks to user CannonFoddr) well as vertically, all in parallel allowing lanes of directional power travel. A lot of the current Redstone blocks including Repeaters, Comparators and such, will still need a Redstone dust signal to work.
You never know, they may introduce it later on in copper development after they've already made a few more additions to how copper can be used.
Well bit off topic but we know 1.18 is (probably) going to be the 'Combat' update so could 1.19 be the 'Metallurgy' update ?
An update that add new functions/features to the metal ores such as 'Blending' ores together to produce new tools/weapons ?
We've recently had Diamond/Netherite 'blending' which might've been a trial run to see if the players like it or not. Maybe Mojang might expand this to the metals - How about blending Gold with Iron ?? Faster mining of gold with the durability of Iron ??
I agree, I think copper wire should be a means to send electrical signals over longer distances without having to use repeaters, but that is my opinion on it.
this would not make repeaters obsolete, because repeaters would still be necessary for clock systems or more complicated redstone builds.
Or bending the signal from the copper wire in your case.
You're correct though, copper is a very good electrical conductor, second only to silver.
It should have redstone properties in Minecraft
if redstone is powered by magic (since it provides unlimited energy from seemingly nowhere), it must still be capable of sending an electrical signal.
In some fantasy stories there are machines that are magic and logic hybrids.
May I suggest that copper be capable of making traps that can be used to electrocute mobs? this would give copper more of a use instead of some pretty decor block or lightning rod.
Sure this would be a hazard to players, but it is also a hazard to hostile mobs and can destroy zombies by paralyzing them and setting them on fire. This would allow players to set up electrofied fences.
electric fences could be adjusted in their current or intensity, so that lower current/voltage fences could be used to prevent passive mobs from trying to escape, if they touch it, they receive a non fatal electrical shock, but electric fences with higher current/voltages would be capable of killing invading mobs or players.
I agree, I think copper wire should be a means to send electrical signals over longer distances without having to use repeaters, but that is my opinion on it.
this would not make repeaters obsolete, because repeaters would still be necessary for clock systems or more complicated redstone builds.
Or bending the signal from the copper wire in your case.
You're correct though, copper is a very good electrical conductor, second only to silver.
It should have redstone properties in Minecraft
if redstone is powered by magic (since it provides unlimited energy from seemingly nowhere), it must still be capable of sending an electrical signal.
In some fantasy stories there are machines that are magic and logic hybrids.
May I suggest that copper be capable of making traps that can be used to electrocute mobs? this would give copper more of a use instead of some pretty decor block or lightning rod.
Sure this would be a hazard to players, but it is also a hazard to hostile mobs and can destroy zombies by paralyzing them and setting them on fire. This would allow players to set up electrofied fences.
electric fences could be adjusted in their current or intensity, so that lower current/voltage fences could be used to prevent passive mobs from trying to escape, if they touch it, they receive a non fatal electrical shock, but electric fences with higher current/voltages would be capable of killing invading mobs or players.
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In addition i'd like to see alternateing textures. You know what i mean, the cartoony ones. ^^
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This is a really neat idea, and no new blocks need to be added, just slight functionality changes to copper redstone interaction. I honestly wish they added that when they released the line of new copper blocks, but maybe it's not too late. Fully support.
I did think of one issue involving lightning, you may not want your lightning rods to be conducting lightning because it could cause some obvious signal interference, how about a way for the game to recognize insulated lightning rods from out in the open ones? (i.e. wool or slime block above it, or maybe just configuring it the way you did in the sample image would make the rods not conduct lightning strikes directly from the sky.)
This is a really neat idea, and no new blocks need to be added, just slight functionality changes to copper redstone interaction. I honestly wish they added that when they released the line of new copper blocks, but maybe it's not too late. Fully support.
I did think of one issue involving lightning, you may not want your lightning rods to be conducting lightning because it could cause some obvious signal interference, how about a way for the game to recognize insulated lightning rods from out in the open ones? (i.e. wool or slime block above it, or maybe just configuring it the way you did in the sample image would make the rods not conduct lightning strikes directly from the sky.)
Are you referring to my image in post #8 ?? - I did mention that I used a Lightning rod as 'copper wire' (as there's nothing like it in the game atm) but agree we would need something to prevent being hit by lighting.. maybe using the recipe for lightning rod (3xcopper ingots) but also adding 6xwool going down the sides can create an 'insulated lightning rod'/'Copper wire' might be an idea
Having recently watched a Pixlriffs video discussing copper, I thought to add a suggestion with how to use copper. If Mojang goes down the route of using copper like its IRL counterpart, my suggestion is to be able to craft copper wire where 9 x raw copper makes 1 copper ingot, and 1 copper ingot makes 16 copper wire (stackable up to 64).
The uses with copper wire is that, since copper is an extremely good electrical conductor, copper wire can be used to transmit Redstone power without any loss in the power level, regardless if the power is set to 1 or 15 it doesn't matter. Transmit 15 on one end, receive 15 at the other end. However unlike its IRL version, have copper wire not be able to go around corners. Copper wire has to be placed between two points in the same manner as tripwire and hooks. I think adding a Redstone convertor, or Redstone terminal, which has a single Redstone input on one side, and has a copper wire connection on the other side. The player would then need to place 2 terminals first then run the copper wire between them.
The benefits I envision are, no power loss throughout the wire, and while the wire cannot bend around corners, it doesn't transmit power to blocks to either side, even if they are copper wire blocks themselves. They have to be connected front and back between the terminals to transmit. This may help make smaller and more efficient Redstone machines as you can have lines of copper wire running back and forth without effecting what is to the side.
Additionally, if someone really wanted to be able to split that copper wire power off to one side, maybe add a splitter which, for the purposes of block placement, acts as a terminal you can right click on to place copper wire, but you can run wire from all 4 sides to a terminal to convert the power back into a Redstone signal.
I don't think that making copper replace redstone is a good idea.
I'd rather see it to be combined with redstone to create a pipe that emit signal only to the endings and can float in the air like most blocks.
Dwarf gamer found:
Buildings - square, not round
Materials - from rubble mound
Dark caves - lit 'n' cleaned out
Settlements - deep underground
Farmability - to grinder bound
Shields - made creepers but sound
Axes and crossbows - taking mobs out
My bad for not making it clear. I'm not suggesting copper wire replace redstone dust, but more for working alongside redstone. Currently if you wanted to have lanes of dust run alongside each other but without interacting with each other, you'd need to have the dust at differently Y levels with a full block on top to stop the dust connecting to each other from the side.
But with wire, you can have them next to each other at the same Y level without fear of them powering the wire next to them. However having wires connected in the air just like tripwires can do now is a good idea.
I understand, but they still can be used as redstone replacement in any case where the wire doesn't need to turn or split.
I want the wire/pipe crafting recipe to involve redstone AND copper.
Also, have in mind that tripwires float in the air whenever connected to tripwire hooks or not.
Dwarf gamer found:
Buildings - square, not round
Materials - from rubble mound
Dark caves - lit 'n' cleaned out
Settlements - deep underground
Farmability - to grinder bound
Shields - made creepers but sound
Axes and crossbows - taking mobs out
What about: 9 x raw copper -> 1 copper ingot -> 16 copper wire. Then 1 x copper wire + 1 x Redstone dust = 1 x Redstone wire. That way you're incorporating Redstone into wire crafting, though still require some kind of terminal to connect the wire between, as well as converting Redstone power in dust to the wire, and visa-versa?
I already knew wire as is floats in air. My original concept of copper wire was only being placed on top of full blocks, or top half slabs just like dust is now. Having wire float in air, as if it's hanging, could not only be practicable, but to those who only plays creative and builds stuff for art may also find purely decorative uses for floating copper/Redstone wire.
This actually sounds a bit like a suggestion I did a while back (not going to repeat it here) except in my suggestion it was mainly to produce a block to allow vertical connections between redstone dust lanes instead of torch towers.
Since my suggestion shows the 'wire' touching normal blocks powered by redstone dust we wouldn't need a special terminal, since these wires get 'powered' in a similar way to Repeaters etc.. if it's touching a powered block - It's powered
This means any block powered by redstone dust/repeater/comparator etc acts as a terminal & has 5 other faces where a 'wire' can be attached to
If we REALLY need a 'terminal block' for wires - why not just use the Copper block ??
IMHO my suggestion still stands however now that we have copper then using that instead of Blaze rods seems a more logical way of crafting
(FYI - I used Lightning rod as 'Copper wire' in the picture just as an example, which actually makes a bit more sense than adding another new block )
I'm certainly not a redstone expert, but this seems like it could work. I'm generally open to suggestons for copper, in part because it's seeming to be increasingly... not all that useful considering it's an entire new metal. All the other types have uses in armor, tools, and unique blocks and items- making metals such as iron and gold pretty darn useful. I know copper is a new thing, but thusfar the only uses we've seen for it are some decorative blocks, and the spyglass.
That being said, I'd be a bit cautious about changing such a fundamental aspect. I think I'd rather see copper used in new redstone components than used to make such a big change to redstone.
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I didn't see your original post, then again I only searched the forums using "copper wire", "copper" and "wire" and didn't see anything even remotely to my idea so I decided to post. However I read your original post and yes they are both very similar. I hope that Mojang does add these features and uses to copper, and if they do you should be the main contributor to the concept. 😁👍
You never know, they may introduce it later on in copper development after they've already made a few more additions to how copper can be used. After all, the Smithing Table was only a decoration block in 1.14 Java and 1.11 Bedrock, and wasn't a functional block until 1.16 arrived. I personally don't think it'll make as big a change to Redstone as you may think. The idea is to transmit power over longer distances as (thanks to user CannonFoddr) well as vertically, all in parallel allowing lanes of directional power travel. A lot of the current Redstone blocks including Repeaters, Comparators and such, will still need a Redstone dust signal to work.
Well bit off topic but we know 1.18 is (probably) going to be the 'Combat' update so could 1.19 be the 'Metallurgy' update ?
An update that add new functions/features to the metal ores such as 'Blending' ores together to produce new tools/weapons ?
We've recently had Diamond/Netherite 'blending' which might've been a trial run to see if the players like it or not. Maybe Mojang might expand this to the metals - How about blending Gold with Iron ?? Faster mining of gold with the durability of Iron ??
I agree, I think copper wire should be a means to send electrical signals over longer distances without having to use repeaters, but that is my opinion on it.
this would not make repeaters obsolete, because repeaters would still be necessary for clock systems or more complicated redstone builds.
Or bending the signal from the copper wire in your case.
You're correct though, copper is a very good electrical conductor, second only to silver.
It should have redstone properties in Minecraft
if redstone is powered by magic (since it provides unlimited energy from seemingly nowhere), it must still be capable of sending an electrical signal.
In some fantasy stories there are machines that are magic and logic hybrids.
May I suggest that copper be capable of making traps that can be used to electrocute mobs? this would give copper more of a use instead of some pretty decor block or lightning rod.
Sure this would be a hazard to players, but it is also a hazard to hostile mobs and can destroy zombies by paralyzing them and setting them on fire. This would allow players to set up electrofied fences.
electric fences could be adjusted in their current or intensity, so that lower current/voltage fences could be used to prevent passive mobs from trying to escape, if they touch it, they receive a non fatal electrical shock, but electric fences with higher current/voltages would be capable of killing invading mobs or players.
Support!
In addition i'd like to see alternateing textures. You know what i mean, the cartoony ones. ^^
My projects:
-are abandoned for now. I might pick 'em up in the future.
For now i'm working on a private modpack that suit's my own playstyle.
I am gonna stay in modded 1.12.2 untill my potato dies. No mercy! :Q
This is a really neat idea, and no new blocks need to be added, just slight functionality changes to copper redstone interaction. I honestly wish they added that when they released the line of new copper blocks, but maybe it's not too late. Fully support.
I did think of one issue involving lightning, you may not want your lightning rods to be conducting lightning because it could cause some obvious signal interference, how about a way for the game to recognize insulated lightning rods from out in the open ones? (i.e. wool or slime block above it, or maybe just configuring it the way you did in the sample image would make the rods not conduct lightning strikes directly from the sky.)
Are you referring to my image in post #8 ?? - I did mention that I used a Lightning rod as 'copper wire' (as there's nothing like it in the game atm) but agree we would need something to prevent being hit by lighting.. maybe using the recipe for lightning rod (3xcopper ingots) but also adding 6xwool going down the sides can create an 'insulated lightning rod'/'Copper wire' might be an idea