I dont want a poral or anything that needs materials to make it. I want the aether to be able to fly or build blocks to. Say flying creatures or planes hangliders can transport you there but NO PORTALS.
First of all, just ignore muncher, hes just a thread killer.
No actually, muncher is not a thread killer. He is a critic. Theres a big difference between the two.
From what I've seen, when muncher posts something on a thread, it actually keeps the thread alive longer then I would have normally thought it would. a example of this would be that thread where some1 wanted creepers to smile before they explode. I saw that and said: one or two pages tops. It has 5 pages now last I checked.
back on topic: for the moon, why not make it so one layer is meteor proof, but you can still mine through it. this way we can keep at least some of the creations on the moon from being destroyed, and avoid having multiple meteors land in the same spot, making a hole down to the bedrock. Also, would moon rocks be any different then earth rocks?
I still think the mantle should be renamed, since I do not see how a gigantic underground cavern is a mantle. Unless its has something to do with science. I never payed much attention in that class :tongue.gif:
Twilight realm... ya... I still cant see any point in that whatsoever. Same with the ocean one.
I really like these ideas mostly as-are. the moon is admittedly a little dull, and obsidia could be another biome like others have said. but twilight i personally feel looks alien enough that it could be its own little thing.
Now regarding the mantle. I completely and whole-heartedly support this. some people say it should be its own thing, some people say it should be installed adjacent to the overworld and i think it should be a happy compromise. my suggestion is that it is a seperate world with a portal, BUT those portals already exist where there are the holes in the bedrock. you just have to get to them. not exactly sure what they should look like(but it should be something that looks like it would occur natually). they would teleport you instantly to the mantle(no delay or spin effect like with the nether portals). this way there are none of the logistics problems that would come from making it adjacent, and it doesnt feel like your teleporting anywhere.
iv been waiting a while to see someone suggest this. i like it but i don't think using a spaceship to the moon is very minecrafty
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I reaaaaally like the Mantle, but I don't think it needs a portal.
And maybe under the Mantle, you could get to the Core.
The core, I can picture it now. Lava blocks and nothing else.
And at Angelo, that's exactly the kind of ideas I'd like to hear more of. Go crazy, even if it's difficult or impossible to code.
Lava.. Lava and Diamonds, since DIamonds are only forged at the planet's center here on earth, under the greatest of pressures, the most intense of heats.
The mantle looks interest and i like the ieda of having to make a long rope machine thingy
but the others dont look that good
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teh only problem i see with the mantle is that unlike the nether it its literally under the overworld, even if you have to load it up it is still a part of the minecraftia world, so what would happen to the void? would the mantle have a blue space above the giant cave systems that would appear to be the void. im just saying this because from what i have understood the mantle is meant to be the literal representation of what is under Minecraftia.
teh only problem i see with the mantle is that unlike the nether it its literally under the overworld, even if you have to load it up it is still a part of the minecraftia world, so what would happen to the void? would the mantle have a blue space above the giant cave systems that would appear to be the void. im just saying this because from what i have understood the mantle is meant to be the literal representation of what is under Minecraftia.
I was thinking that when you get 'to the bottom' of the rope with the machine that takes you to the Mantle, you start very near the top of the map with bedrock a few layers above you. I was thinking that the Mantle would be miles and miles deep, so you could not dig your way back up. You would have to climb the rope to get past the bedrock. At the bottom of the Mantle (however deep it may be) would also be bedrock. The sides are only limited to how many chunks you have generated.
I like the idea of the Aether and the Mantle. The Aether has already been discussed elsewhere, so I will focus on the mantle. No gravel or dirt. If you were in a really deep mine, you wouldn't find dirt.There should be less of the common resources like coal, by the time that I am at the bottom of the world any ways, I usually have more coal than I need.
I think that there should be some mobs that live in the mantle. cave creeper would be cool, one that is paler, with glowing eyes like a spider, and a larger blast. I think that there really should be a mob that can either fly, or jump very long distances, as the caves you showed are huge, and would be difficult to cross normally. Then perhaps some sort of oozy mob that clings to ceilings then drops on your head.
There should be another brick, Mossy Smooth stone, like mossy cobble, except smooth. (duh). Also, a brick that acts like netherrack, in that you can burn it. If you craft along with a bucket, you get oil, which can be poured, acts like water, except black, can fuel a furnace, and maybe later could be refined into gas to use in a rocket to get to twilight or the moon if those ideas survive.
I like the idea that the mantle is under the bedrock, and to get to it you have to explore the bedrock to find holes...but I kind of would like to see caves like that in the over-world too.
All the same, trying to find holes in the over-world instead of just building a portal is a great solution because you have to explore, so there's a lot of luck and excitement when you find it. Just like finding diamonds.
But personally I would much rather see the overworld fleshed out more (with things like geocraft and oceancraft) before new dimensions are added.
I could see this in an alien expansion pack, where each of these are different planets. That'd be interesting.
If I were you I would try to think of some ways that really set apart these worlds as far as giving players good reasons to go there. Is moonrock super useful? Are there plants in twilight that can be used to craft amazing new tools?
I like the idea that the mantle is under the bedrock, and to get to it you have to explore the bedrock to find holes...but I kind of would like to see caves like that in the over-world too.
All the same, trying to find holes in the over-world instead of just building a portal is a great solution because you have to explore, so there's a lot of luck and excitement when you find it. Just like finding diamonds.
But personally I would much rather see the overworld fleshed out more (with things like geocraft and oceancraft) before new dimensions are added.
I could see this in an alien expansion pack, where each of these are different planets. That'd be interesting.
If I were you I would try to think of some ways that really set apart these worlds as far as giving players good reasons to go there. Is moonrock super useful? Are there plants in twilight that can be used to craft amazing new tools?
Yes, finding a hole in the earth that goes down for thousands of feet would be very exciting. Just, if finding these holes in bedrock will be how one would get to the Mantle, then Notch must also change the game code so that holes like those are generated, which was removed after the Halloween update.
I still don''t understand why these are necessary. Do we really want the game have 7-9 different worlds to explore?
We have one INFINITE world. When we have that, Each new "dimension" must be completely and drastically different then the over-world. These just are'nt different enough to be added.
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I still don''t understand why these are necessary. Do we really want the game have 7-9 different worlds to explore?
We have one INFINITE world. When we have that, Each new "dimension" must be completely and drastically different then the over-world. These just are'nt different enough to be added.
I don't support any of the other suggestions. The Mantle would not be a 'dimension', the way the Nether is, but an extension of what minecraft is all about: mining.
I still don''t understand why these are necessary. Do we really want the game have 7-9 different worlds to explore?
We have one INFINITE world. When we have that, Each new "dimension" must be completely and drastically different then the over-world. These just are'nt different enough to be added.
I don't support any of the other suggestions. The Mantle would not be a 'dimension', the way the Nether is, but an extension of what minecraft is all about: mining.
The mantle is probably the strongest of all of these. I just don't like it being past bedrock, because I think the world must have a definable end to it (on the vertical axis only of course) While infinite worlds make the world seem huge, without some limitations to base what "Huge" is the size of the world loses perspective.
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I LOVE THE MANTLE! The twilight? Obsidia? The fricken Moon (although i could definately LIVE with it)? WTF MAN? Yes here in minecraft we will travel to the moon and the twilight clustereff and whatever the nether OBSIDIA is sposed to be? WTF? P.S. sry for my rant
Imagine ALL of the twilight trees burning at once...
Hey, wait a minute, don't planets orbit stars? How can a planet have two stars? jk, I won't call you on that little thing.
Anyway, I love the idea(s), and sweet art/designs/etc.
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If they want it in minecraft, I say just add it to the actual biome list or at least dont make more dimensions. The nether was cool, yeah. But imagine how annoying it would be if you had 6 dimensions you could go to for more blocks. That would be double the blocks you can get in your world. So, I dont really support this.
The core, I can picture it now. Lava blocks and nothing else.
Lava.. Lava and Diamonds, since DIamonds are only forged at the planet's center here on earth, under the greatest of pressures, the most intense of heats.
That's a really good idea. Instead of the mantle, it could be a biome that goes from the deep depths of the surface to the very lava center of the world. Make massive caves and lava veins in the top of the map, under that a few layers of obsidian. Under that put an area of lava and diamonds. Players will search for large veins of minerals in the upper layer, and then mine through way to the middle obsidian level, and work their way through lava for large veins of diamonds, and perhaps at the very bottom is the inner core that instantly melts all players and blocks. We'd have to rename it from something other than the mantle.
As to how we get there, I thinking finding rare holes would be the most fun. Players would build underground structures and cities around it.
Also, I love Dymond Monkey's idea of a mob that drops ontop of you from ontop of high cave ceilings.
The point of this thread isn't necessarily to have a large amount of dimensions. It's to get the community talking about other possible dimensions, and if there's an idea we all really think is great, we can start fleshing it out, and considering it for the game. It seems the mantle, which I suggest should also include the inner and outer core, is an idea worth discussing for a few more pages.
The core, I can picture it now. Lava blocks and nothing else.
And at Angelo, that's exactly the kind of ideas I'd like to hear more of. Go crazy, even if it's difficult or impossible to code.
No actually, muncher is not a thread killer. He is a critic. Theres a big difference between the two.
From what I've seen, when muncher posts something on a thread, it actually keeps the thread alive longer then I would have normally thought it would. a example of this would be that thread where some1 wanted creepers to smile before they explode. I saw that and said: one or two pages tops. It has 5 pages now last I checked.
back on topic: for the moon, why not make it so one layer is meteor proof, but you can still mine through it. this way we can keep at least some of the creations on the moon from being destroyed, and avoid having multiple meteors land in the same spot, making a hole down to the bedrock. Also, would moon rocks be any different then earth rocks?
I still think the mantle should be renamed, since I do not see how a gigantic underground cavern is a mantle. Unless its has something to do with science. I never payed much attention in that class :tongue.gif:
Twilight realm... ya... I still cant see any point in that whatsoever. Same with the ocean one.
Now regarding the mantle. I completely and whole-heartedly support this. some people say it should be its own thing, some people say it should be installed adjacent to the overworld and i think it should be a happy compromise. my suggestion is that it is a seperate world with a portal, BUT those portals already exist where there are the holes in the bedrock. you just have to get to them. not exactly sure what they should look like(but it should be something that looks like it would occur natually). they would teleport you instantly to the mantle(no delay or spin effect like with the nether portals). this way there are none of the logistics problems that would come from making it adjacent, and it doesnt feel like your teleporting anywhere.
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Lava.. Lava and Diamonds, since DIamonds are only forged at the planet's center here on earth, under the greatest of pressures, the most intense of heats.
And maybe the occasional lava-squid for teh lulz.
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but the others dont look that good
I was thinking that when you get 'to the bottom' of the rope with the machine that takes you to the Mantle, you start very near the top of the map with bedrock a few layers above you. I was thinking that the Mantle would be miles and miles deep, so you could not dig your way back up. You would have to climb the rope to get past the bedrock. At the bottom of the Mantle (however deep it may be) would also be bedrock. The sides are only limited to how many chunks you have generated.
I think that there should be some mobs that live in the mantle. cave creeper would be cool, one that is paler, with glowing eyes like a spider, and a larger blast. I think that there really should be a mob that can either fly, or jump very long distances, as the caves you showed are huge, and would be difficult to cross normally. Then perhaps some sort of oozy mob that clings to ceilings then drops on your head.
There should be another brick, Mossy Smooth stone, like mossy cobble, except smooth. (duh). Also, a brick that acts like netherrack, in that you can burn it. If you craft along with a bucket, you get oil, which can be poured, acts like water, except black, can fuel a furnace, and maybe later could be refined into gas to use in a rocket to get to twilight or the moon if those ideas survive.
All the same, trying to find holes in the over-world instead of just building a portal is a great solution because you have to explore, so there's a lot of luck and excitement when you find it. Just like finding diamonds.
But personally I would much rather see the overworld fleshed out more (with things like geocraft and oceancraft) before new dimensions are added.
I could see this in an alien expansion pack, where each of these are different planets. That'd be interesting.
If I were you I would try to think of some ways that really set apart these worlds as far as giving players good reasons to go there. Is moonrock super useful? Are there plants in twilight that can be used to craft amazing new tools?
Yes, finding a hole in the earth that goes down for thousands of feet would be very exciting. Just, if finding these holes in bedrock will be how one would get to the Mantle, then Notch must also change the game code so that holes like those are generated, which was removed after the Halloween update.
We have one INFINITE world. When we have that, Each new "dimension" must be completely and drastically different then the over-world. These just are'nt different enough to be added.
I don't support any of the other suggestions. The Mantle would not be a 'dimension', the way the Nether is, but an extension of what minecraft is all about: mining.
The mantle is probably the strongest of all of these. I just don't like it being past bedrock, because I think the world must have a definable end to it (on the vertical axis only of course) While infinite worlds make the world seem huge, without some limitations to base what "Huge" is the size of the world loses perspective.
Imagine ALL of the twilight trees burning at once...
Hey, wait a minute, don't planets orbit stars? How can a planet have two stars? jk, I won't call you on that little thing.
Anyway, I love the idea(s), and sweet art/designs/etc.
That's a really good idea. Instead of the mantle, it could be a biome that goes from the deep depths of the surface to the very lava center of the world. Make massive caves and lava veins in the top of the map, under that a few layers of obsidian. Under that put an area of lava and diamonds. Players will search for large veins of minerals in the upper layer, and then mine through way to the middle obsidian level, and work their way through lava for large veins of diamonds, and perhaps at the very bottom is the inner core that instantly melts all players and blocks. We'd have to rename it from something other than the mantle.
As to how we get there, I thinking finding rare holes would be the most fun. Players would build underground structures and cities around it.
Also, I love Dymond Monkey's idea of a mob that drops ontop of you from ontop of high cave ceilings.
The point of this thread isn't necessarily to have a large amount of dimensions. It's to get the community talking about other possible dimensions, and if there's an idea we all really think is great, we can start fleshing it out, and considering it for the game. It seems the mantle, which I suggest should also include the inner and outer core, is an idea worth discussing for a few more pages.