No en-bulk revamp. Revamp one bit at a time. I'm sure you and your friends can probably remember most of what you discussed anyhow. Then each day focus on one bit. Make a few graphics right now to help smooth over this rough point, and then you can stop for a while. You can remake graphics later when the fervor bulks up again.
You can't let something like this stop you. There's 32 pages of support here, and if you quit I'm going to pour lava on your house, burn your forests, and mod your world so that creepers and ghasts spawn throughout your overworld constantly.
I know it wasn't your fault... but wow. This sucks.
On monday I was devastated that you had to push the update back. Friday afternoon the second I got home from school I jumped at my computer to see if it was updated. It wasn't. Well, I checked every fifteen minutes, literally all night.
FML.
But seriously, if you re-make all this, the revamp and everything...
This,
is for you.
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I am pretty good at art for items, blocks, crafting etc. so if you need anything in that regard, please PM me and I'll do anything I can.
I will kill your friends sister. Before that, though... i will yell "LEARN TO EVERYTHING" into her ear and stomp on her face.
Wow. This is way unnecessarily violent, inconsiderate, unhelpful, pointless, unfair, off-topic, off-task, and downright confusing.
You can comically threaten people to not make an unappreciated choice, like I did, but threatening in a forewarning manner a person you don't know for an honest mistake is horrifying.
No, don't worry. Add what you remember now, an then we can get to work the other areas of the project when we think of them/ remember them. We can't give up at this stage!
Oh, and about the Kitrinite tools, KEEP THEM. If you run out of tools in the nether, you can easily get more!
I absolutely LOVE the idea.
I think the nehter is a bit boring because the only reason to go there is to get glowstone BUT if this would be added, I wouldn't care about the normal world!
The music is simply perfect!
And your friend's sister... HOW DARE YOU!?!?!?!?
I expect the bread is made by using bone meal (or charred bone meal) on wheat? Maybe the wheat can only grow in the nether. Also, I expect the jellies to work by using slime balls or fire slime balls. It would be good if the foods could be put into a crafting table to make placeable ones, like cakes. And don't forget about using sapropype to make tea and flesh-coloured dye!
Well I can finally say I no longer support this thread.
I was waiting till the update to see if anything good was to come of it and as that's been lost I have no reason to follow it anymore.
There's very little that's good in the large majority of these suggestions, and the OP seems to prefer the shotgun approach to deciding what's good with "Throw as much at people as possible and see what they like!"
If the update was DESCRIPTIONS for monsters or the tools then instead of something incredibly complex (ie. maybe they figured out some durability formula to auto smelt or something), which they have lost, they could just write "We lost the precise calculations but this is the basics...".
As that doesn't seem to have been done, that means we were going to get more graphics. Which means either more new items (either completely undescribed or heavily thought out, we won't know), or the graphics for the enemies before they have been fleshed out. Which is the wrong way to go.
None of the suggestions had any coherent feel of the Nether, they were just "More Ores, More Enemies, More Crafts!"
With the Nether Wildlife thread they had the focus on making NEW AI that would act completely differently from anything we've met.
With the Point of the Nether thread they focused on how the Nether should be represented to actually get across that Hellish nature and "It's dangerous just to BE here" feel.
This thread gave NOTHING. The best it gave were the Thermosetite tools, and the glowing mushrooms. Everything else is either not thought out at all or just sub par.
I said it back when this started that it was headed in the wrong direction for a GOOD thread. And now when the OP is basically saying "Okay, Hiatus guys" We have NOTHING TO WORK WITH.
If Grey took 2 weeks off in the Aether thread people could still suggest items that fit with the Aether because he based his thread around the concept of the Aether. The thread wasn't riding on his creativity but everyone's creativity around a core concept (He just needed to okay/veto and update the OP).
We don't have that here. The reason this thread took the limelight over Nether Wildlife and Point of the Nether is because of the Glowing Mushrooms.
That's IT.
It's not a better thread, it's just flashier.
I would make a new thread, or support someone else's attempt at it, except that this thread has gotten so big, so many sigs, that it's irreversible.
No one will ever pay attention to a new attempt at a Nether revamp BECAUSE of this thread's existence.
And god help us if Notch sees this, notices the whole "More Ores, More Enemies, More Crafts!" point of this suggestion and gives us the overworld again except forced onto Hard mode.
And yes I'm being overly harsh right now. I gave warning after warning that this thread was not going well, and each time I was courteously ignored.
Well, I'm not gonna wait anymore on this. The thread has been thrown into the public domain and no one knows where to lead it. So it's going to become a trash heap for random Nether ideas, some good, some bad, but who'll be willing to wade through it all to find those jewels? It's never going to progress past that and we'll be back at square one, in terms of the Nether development.
Since Zurich isn't going to do this thread anymore (atleast for a large duration), ditch this directionless thread, create a new one with an actual focal point, and rally around that.
It's not hard to do. Here's a few examples:
Nether Mobs: basic but hard hitting and tough to break down.
Nether Mobs: smarter AI that can trick the player to it's death.
Nether Mobs: expanding what's already there.
Nether Scare Factor: jump scares be damned, it'll scare you out of your mind.
Nether Scare Factor: danger lurks around every turn and you never know when it'll strike!
TRY IT.
ALL FIVE of those, after being started, could be community driven and wouldn't come to a dead halt if the OP disappears.
But that ONLY assumes that people are willing to actually move away from the "More Ores, More Enemies, More Crafts!" idea that this thread has driven home hard and accept a new thread.
I don't like this topic nearly as much as the Aether one simply because no one listens to your suggestions very much.
In the Aether topic, EVERY suggestion posted is evaluated and considered.
Here, I spent 15 minutes composing links of well-thought out Nether Mob suggestions with concept art and unique behavior and even included of one of my own ideas.
I come back about a week later, hoping to see a response. Nothing. I check the OP- there's still "hurr flamey skeletons and slimes."
No en-bulk revamp. Revamp one bit at a time. I'm sure you and your friends can probably remember most of what you discussed anyhow. Then each day focus on one bit. Make a few graphics right now to help smooth over this rough point, and then you can stop for a while. You can remake graphics later when the fervor bulks up again.
You can't let something like this stop you. There's 32 pages of support here, and if you quit I'm going to pour lava on your house, burn your forests, and mod your world so that creepers and ghasts spawn throughout your overworld constantly.
This, and also mod it so that monsters can spawn in any light level, plus they can deal you 1-hit kills on any difficulty (including peaceful).
No matter where you are, this handy tool's demo may undoubtely bring data for the revamp back. I just hope. I won't just leave my favourite Nether suggestion [also a upcoming mod] to start from scratch! I said that I won't wrtie until revamp, but...I also break my promises. ;P
THIS! THIS!!
PM SCARECROWMAN NOW! :ohmy.gif:
EDIT: I PM'ed him, now we have to cross our fingers that his friend didn't overwrite the data...
I did it first before I posted that tool in here...
Hope he will send this to his friend...At least for me, I don't know who is him?
If he did, then we're lost...I'm crossing them so strong I think they'll just shoot out of my hands AND legs...Yes, I do cross my legs fingers. :tongue.gif:
In my 2 days on this fourm I`ve already said this twice, ADD THIS TOTHE FEAKING GAME NOTCH IT`S AWESOME AND IT WOULD MAKE A LOT OF PEOPLE BUY THE GAME!!!!! I love this idea. [] [] []
Especially freezers! Now the zombies won't rot into skeletons!
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What the **** is with these ridiculously strict signature rules? One image? No taller than 100px?! (That's 1.3") One URL? Two lines of text?!?! The **** is this ****?!
What the **** is with these ridiculously strict signature rules? One image? No taller than 100px?! (That's 1.3") One URL? Two lines of text?!?! The **** is this ****?!
No en-bulk revamp. Revamp one bit at a time. I'm sure you and your friends can probably remember most of what you discussed anyhow. Then each day focus on one bit. Make a few graphics right now to help smooth over this rough point, and then you can stop for a while. You can remake graphics later when the fervor bulks up again.
You can't let something like this stop you. There's 32 pages of support here, and if you quit I'm going to pour lava on your house, burn your forests, and mod your world so that creepers and ghasts spawn throughout your overworld constantly.
That is exactly what I did
Wow. This is way unnecessarily violent, inconsiderate, unhelpful, pointless, unfair, off-topic, off-task, and downright confusing.
You can comically threaten people to not make an unappreciated choice, like I did, but threatening in a forewarning manner a person you don't know for an honest mistake is horrifying.
Learn to everything.
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Curse PremiumOh, and about the Kitrinite tools, KEEP THEM. If you run out of tools in the nether, you can easily get more!
EDIT: Damn, 1001st post.
I think the nehter is a bit boring because the only reason to go there is to get glowstone BUT if this would be added, I wouldn't care about the normal world!
The music is simply perfect!
And your friend's sister... HOW DARE YOU!?!?!?!?
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Curse PremiumI was waiting till the update to see if anything good was to come of it and as that's been lost I have no reason to follow it anymore.
There's very little that's good in the large majority of these suggestions, and the OP seems to prefer the shotgun approach to deciding what's good with "Throw as much at people as possible and see what they like!"
If the update was DESCRIPTIONS for monsters or the tools then instead of something incredibly complex (ie. maybe they figured out some durability formula to auto smelt or something), which they have lost, they could just write "We lost the precise calculations but this is the basics...".
As that doesn't seem to have been done, that means we were going to get more graphics. Which means either more new items (either completely undescribed or heavily thought out, we won't know), or the graphics for the enemies before they have been fleshed out. Which is the wrong way to go.
None of the suggestions had any coherent feel of the Nether, they were just "More Ores, More Enemies, More Crafts!"
With the Nether Wildlife thread they had the focus on making NEW AI that would act completely differently from anything we've met.
With the Point of the Nether thread they focused on how the Nether should be represented to actually get across that Hellish nature and "It's dangerous just to BE here" feel.
This thread gave NOTHING. The best it gave were the Thermosetite tools, and the glowing mushrooms. Everything else is either not thought out at all or just sub par.
I said it back when this started that it was headed in the wrong direction for a GOOD thread. And now when the OP is basically saying "Okay, Hiatus guys" We have NOTHING TO WORK WITH.
If Grey took 2 weeks off in the Aether thread people could still suggest items that fit with the Aether because he based his thread around the concept of the Aether. The thread wasn't riding on his creativity but everyone's creativity around a core concept (He just needed to okay/veto and update the OP).
We don't have that here. The reason this thread took the limelight over Nether Wildlife and Point of the Nether is because of the Glowing Mushrooms.
That's IT.
It's not a better thread, it's just flashier.
I would make a new thread, or support someone else's attempt at it, except that this thread has gotten so big, so many sigs, that it's irreversible.
No one will ever pay attention to a new attempt at a Nether revamp BECAUSE of this thread's existence.
And god help us if Notch sees this, notices the whole "More Ores, More Enemies, More Crafts!" point of this suggestion and gives us the overworld again except forced onto Hard mode.
And yes I'm being overly harsh right now. I gave warning after warning that this thread was not going well, and each time I was courteously ignored.
Well, I'm not gonna wait anymore on this. The thread has been thrown into the public domain and no one knows where to lead it. So it's going to become a trash heap for random Nether ideas, some good, some bad, but who'll be willing to wade through it all to find those jewels? It's never going to progress past that and we'll be back at square one, in terms of the Nether development.
Since Zurich isn't going to do this thread anymore (atleast for a large duration), ditch this directionless thread, create a new one with an actual focal point, and rally around that.
It's not hard to do. Here's a few examples:
Nether Mobs: basic but hard hitting and tough to break down.
Nether Mobs: smarter AI that can trick the player to it's death.
Nether Mobs: expanding what's already there.
Nether Scare Factor: jump scares be damned, it'll scare you out of your mind.
Nether Scare Factor: danger lurks around every turn and you never know when it'll strike!
TRY IT.
ALL FIVE of those, after being started, could be community driven and wouldn't come to a dead halt if the OP disappears.
But that ONLY assumes that people are willing to actually move away from the "More Ores, More Enemies, More Crafts!" idea that this thread has driven home hard and accept a new thread.
Anyway, I'm willing to do some art for this thread if needed. I can also try to help with some of the mobs. Just throwing it out there.
In the Aether topic, EVERY suggestion posted is evaluated and considered.
Here, I spent 15 minutes composing links of well-thought out Nether Mob suggestions with concept art and unique behavior and even included of one of my own ideas.
I come back about a week later, hoping to see a response. Nothing. I check the OP- there's still "hurr flamey skeletons and slimes."
This, and also mod it so that monsters can spawn in any light level, plus they can deal you 1-hit kills on any difficulty (including peaceful).
THIS! THIS!!
PM SCARECROWMAN NOW! :ohmy.gif:
EDIT: I PM'ed him, now we have to cross our fingers that his friend didn't overwrite the data...
mabe it gets rosted seeds that stack and heal half a heart
roasted seeds cant be planted.
chickens lay an egg after eating roasted seeds so getting cake is easier
my clan
Very well-balanced, concise, and well-thought-out suggestion. I hope he adds this to the main thread.
But as they say, two PM's are better than one!
...oh wait.
I don't get it...
haha
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Curse PremiumIf you read any of the previous pages, or took in mind the fact that it is in the suggestions section, you would know that it is not a mod.
This is a support bump.
Glowing shrooms, dragons, and freezers.
Especially freezers! Now the zombies won't rot into skeletons!